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PoliGAF 2016 |OT2| we love the poorly educated

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Rubenov

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HylianTom said:
The great thing: we'll know beforehand if something's up because the RNC's rules committee meets one week before the convention itself begins. If Trump has enough delegates to win nomination during the first floor vote and the committee suddenly changes the rules so that delegates are no longer bound to honor state votes on the first ballot, we'll know in advance that the convention will go bonkers with foul play.
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I hear/read this often but I just can't see it happening. This would be catastrophic to the party.
 
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User 463088

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I was on Facebook doing something and I stumbled onto Senator Warren's page.

Holy hell. Don't go there. There are just a bajillion people begging her to endorse Bernie. It's tragic. My favorite post is the following:

#LetsDoThis #BernieSanders2016 #BernieSandersforSC #SuperTuesday #BernBabyBern #HeWinsWeWin #WeAreBernie #NotMeUs #SCPrimary #BlackLivesMatters #westandtogether #whichhillary #politicalrevolution #feelthebern #bernie2016 #bernie #americatogether #bernthepresidency #trendthebern #bernthevote #bernthecaucus #berntherevolution #berniesanders #choose2bern #bernitdown #bernieorbust #WomenForBernie #SandersWarren2016
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That's it. Just hashtag after hashtag.
 
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sc0la

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Has Trump said "You're Fired." once this entire primary? If not his restraint is amazing. Yes I wrote that second sentence X{
 
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HylianTom

Banned
Rubenov said:
I hear/read this often but I just can't see it happening. This would be catastrophic to the party.
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Agree. In a goofier timeline, it could happen.. but I seriously doubt it here.

Imagine if it did - the days between an obviously shady rule change and the beginning of floor proceedings would be incredible to watch. I can't even imagine what Trump or his supporters would do in that situation. Would Cleveland burn?

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And a side note: she's not my ideal by any stretch, but I would get particular enjoyment out of seeing the GOP's grip on Congress and SCOTUS royally schlonged by their decades-long archnemeses, the Clintons. I hope it happens, and I hope it breaks them.
 
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User 463088

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sc0la said:
Has Trump said "You're Fired." once this entire primary? If not his restraint is amazing. Yes I wrote that second sentence X{
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He's saving it for his acceptance speech

So, we love America. Yes, we love America. Great country. Going to be even greater now. Yuge wall. And, we're going to win. Okay? We're going to win so big. You're going to come up to me and beg me to let us lose. But I won't do it. I won't lose. I don't know how. And I said to our Future Vice President Omarosa, I said, look at this shinning casino on a hill? Okay, and I said, it's yuge. It's what we need. And I told her, great woman by the way. Great woman. Doesn't bleed out of places she's not supposed to. I had them check. It's beautiful, okay? It's beautiful. And then, we're going to win in November. And we're going to tell the President YOU'RE FIRED. I love firing people. I love hiring people too. Did I tell you I'm not a politician? And, you can ask all those losers, like Jeb!, he's a mess, and Little Rubio, and Cruz, nasty man. Nasty.They'll tell you. I don't lose. I win. And we're going to win. And Hillary, you're fired. I mean, we haven't hired you. But you're fired.

And then an Eagle comes down and drops sunglasses on his head and its like BANG PEW POW and shit.
 
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sc0la

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Doesn't Jeb! have to endorse him if he is the nominee? Part of the pledge.

Imagine trump threatening to sue Jeb! or Marco for their endorsement. Or better actually suing them after he loses saying their lack of endorsement caused his campaign irreparable harm.
 
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Cesare Borgia

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NeoXChaos said:
Is there any truth to this?
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I don't believe many establishment republicans will line up behind Trump. Romney, McCain, the Bushes, Dole...I can't see them doing it. Could I see Rubio endorsing Trump? Sure, why not. But I just have a hard time believing Trump can win over the bigger names.

Who will speak at the RNC? Christie seems like he can get a prime time slot. Maybe a surprise speech from a businessman. But who else would tie their career to him on live television?
 
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User 463088

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Also, let's all just bask in the warmth secure in the knowledge that Donald Trump will give an acceptance speech. At the convention. With words and shit.
 
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Roland_Gunner

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sphagnum said:
Goofier than this timeline? Just think of all the absolute insanity that's happened in this election cycle so far.

Nothing is impossible anymore.
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I guess its all about perspective. By most accounts JFK only won the Presidency thanks to the mob in Illinois. That makes Trump seem almost boring.
 
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NeoXChaos

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Cesare Borgia said:
I don't believe many establishment republicans will line up behind Trump. Romney, McCain, the Bushes, Dole...I can't see them doing it. Could I see Rubio endorsing Trump? Sure, why not. But I just have a hard time believing Trump can win over the bigger names.

Who will speak at the RNC? Christie seems like he can get a prime time slot. Maybe a surprise speech from a businessman. But who else would tie their career to him on live television?
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They will at least hold their nose for him in November right??
 
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FloydtheFathead

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HylianTom said:
Agree. In a goofier timeline, it could happen.. but I seriously doubt it here.

Imagine if it did - the days between an obviously shady rule change and the beginning of floor proceedings would be incredible to watch. I can't even imagine what Trump or his supporters would do in that situation. Would Cleveland burn?

-===-

And a side note: she's not my ideal by any stretch, but I would get particular enjoyment out of seeing the GOP's grip on Congress and SCOTUS royally schlonged by their decades-long archnemeses, the Clintons. I hope it happens, and I hope it breaks them.
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PD could never hope to write better fan fiction.. And I hope to god this happens..

I cannot see them let Donnie nuke their chances with expanding the party for years with the bullshit he has said.. Put up Jeb as a sacrificial lamb or something and rebuild because you have to.

adam387 said:
He's saving it for his acceptance speech

So, we love America. Yes, we love America. Great country. Going to be even greater now. Yuge wall. And, we're going to win. Okay? We're going to win so big. You're going to come up to me and beg me to let us lose. But I won't do it. I won't lose. I don't know how. And I said to our Future Vice President Omarosa, I said, look at this shinning casino on a hill? Okay, and I said, it's yuge. It's what we need. And I told her, great woman by the way. Great woman. Doesn't bleed out of places she's not supposed to. I had them check. It's beautiful, okay? It's beautiful. And then, we're going to win in November. And we're going to tell the President YOU'RE FIRED. I love firing people. I love hiring people too. Did I tell you I'm not a politician? And, you can ask all those losers, like Jeb!, he's a mess, and Little Rubio, and Cruz, nasty man. Nasty.They'll tell you. I don't lose. I win. And we're going to win. And Hillary, you're fired. I mean, we haven't hired you. But you're fired.

And then an Eagle comes down and drops sunglasses on his head and its like BANG PEW POW and shit.
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You are getting pretty good at this Adam.
 
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Rubenov

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What are you guys thoughts on Clinton picking Warren to run as her VP? I'm having a hard time visualizing that, merely on the optics of having 2 women running for top office for the first time ever (not me but the country at large).
 
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Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Warren is too old and too from the Northeast. If Clinton wins VA, the race is 95% over. It has to be someone from VA.

edit: wow seriously if Hillary wins VA + NV, she can lose Ohio, Iowa, and Florida and it doesn't matter at all.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
A Human Becoming said:
You're not being entirely fair here. That's generally what happens in this thread regarding Nate Silver.

Five Thirty Eight is all about looking at data and being skeptical. Nate has been questioning for a while whether Trump has a low ceiling. That's different than saying he'll lose once the field narrows. His thinking now is more that Trump has a solid floor with the potential to expand.

People take any possibility he mentions as his belief. When new information arises he reconsiders his position. I'm not saying his rationale is purely based on data, but it's more so than most.
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I know--I'm just having fun. I do, however, think Nate has been ridiculously immature at times and just willfully ignorant at others.

As for a brokered convention, I would seriously worry for the safety of those delegates. There would be a good chance of a riot. We would be watching the end of the GOP as we know it. One-on-one, Trump gets almost 60%.

Rubio would be booed out of the arena.
 
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NeoXChaos

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Cesare Borgia said:
Yea I'm sure many will vote for him, but they won't advertise it. That being said I can see McCain voting for Hillary, for instance. He's never going to admit it publicly though.
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No way W Bush votes for Trump. I could see him and his family voting for Hillary. No way they let someone like Trump degrade the office they once held. Jeb would probably passively say Trump in public but vote Hillary in private.
 
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Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Y2Kev said:
Warren is too old and too from the Northeast. If Clinton wins VA, the race is 95% over. It has to be someone from VA.

edit: wow seriously if Hillary wins VA + NV, she can lose Ohio, Iowa, and Florida and it doesn't matter at all.
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Yeah, that's why I laugh at those thinking it will be a competitive general election with Hillary v Trump.

The EC math does not favor Republicans anymore. And it will continue to get worse for them every election and doubly so every census until they change their platform some.
 
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User 406

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adam387 said:
On behalf of Hillary 08 supporters, I apologize for anyone who had to deal with one of us who said they wouldn't support Obama. I know PUMAs didn't really exist, but the very concept pisses me off.
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Oh they existed, they just had a thankfully short half-life. Won't be any different this go round either.


HylianTom said:
That's one of my favorite features of the chat.

My fingers are crossed that someday Scalia's Ghost hangs-out with us on Super Tuesday; he can tell us what he really thinks, and maybe he can give us a sneak-peek at the afterlife!
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Yeah, I missed having Ted Cruz around for last night's chat for my own Two Minutes Hate. But I guess ol' Ted was too busy working in Texas for the very last win he'll ever have in his life.
 
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HylianTom

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This would be hysterical if true.. but it's Kristol, so grain of salt and all that:

@BillKristol
People close to Trump tell people who tell me that after Tuesday, Trump will say race is over and he won't participate in further debates.
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FnordChan

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adam387 said:
He's saving it for his acceptance speech
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I wonder if Trump is actually going to give an acceptance speech, or if instead he's going to go with his usual MO of a free form acceptance ramble. Also, in addition to "You're fired!" I'm looking forward to hearing Trump yell, "I'm hired!"

FnordChan
 
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Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Rubio and Cruz will be POUNDING on Trump at next week's debate so I doubt he elects not to show up unless he blows everyone out on Tuesday, meaning winning in Texas.
 
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Box of Kittens

Banned
Plinko said:
I know--I'm just having fun. I do, however, think Nate has been ridiculously immature at times and just willfully ignorant at others.
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Let's be honest. Silver wouldn't be getting mocked so hard if he weren't such an ass on Twitter. For all the difficulty he's had this primary season, I still do like a lot of his work. But he sure doesn't come across as someone I'd like to have a beer with.
 
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sc0la

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Y2Kev said:
Rubio and Cruz will be POUNDING on Trump at next week's debate so I doubt he elects not to show up unless he blows everyone out on Tuesday, meaning winning in Texas.
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If he does it I expect him to announce it AT the next debate.
 
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sangreal

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HylianTom said:
This would be hysterical if true.. but it's Kristol, so grain of salt and all that:

@BillKristol
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I don't see why he would show up. I don't think that is what cost him Iowa (lack of ground game did) and its normal for people running away with it to tell contenders to pound sand when they want to debate you. He has nowhere to go but down from a debate

at any rate, he raised this and immediately shot it down at a rally yesterday, concluding that he would do the debate. I think this will be his last debate though unless he loses Florida which is unlikely
 
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