BoboBrazil
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Not sure. Cruz is so slimey. I feel like he could fool enough people with his bullshit to win the election.
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Not sure. Cruz is so slimey. I feel like he could fool enough people with his bullshit to win the election.
The irony is Cruz is just as dangerous in many regards.
Similar economic plans in around $9 trillion tax cuts to the rich with $2.5 trillion in Military budget increases.
Foreign policy plans that call for ripping up the Iran Nuclear Deal and 'carpet-bombing' the Middle East.
A staunch Climate Change denier and someone who vowed to close Planned Parenthood.
Honestly, Cruz should scare you more than Trump. He also polls better than Hillary frequently in General Election polls, people tend to throw those out this far from the election, but it is still worrying.
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Where ya'll getting Maine results from?
Yellowtail
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He's going to do great with the blacks.
Black Republican
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dem side starts later i think?
benjipwns
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Democrats allocate a third of the delegates by Congressional District, so they probably wait for the entire district?
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thepotatoman
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I guess it's hard for political junkies like us to emotionally dislike the possibility of such a entertaining election cycle, even if intelectually it's clear that Trump is very damaging to the country.
Rubio vs Hillary would be as generic of an election as ever. Cruz vs Hillary would probably be the most annoying election ever, just thanks to how annoying Cruz is.
Trump vs Hillary would be historically entertaining, and it's hard not to want to see it, even though the racial rhetoric really does need to stop as soon as possible.
VendettaRed07
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Wow a kid from my Highschool is on MSNBC right now covering the primaries
Roland_Gunner
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Noooooo. Cruz get in! Cruz polls better against HRC because of all the heat on Trump. He's the Republican Sanders that way. In the general Cruz would have most of Trump's downside (moderates, minorities hate him) without his populist upside. Give me Cruz and his punchable face every day of the week.
benjipwns
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Why do you think Maine is?
QuiteWhittle
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Yep. Sometimes it looks like I logged into Free Republic with the way some of y'all act if Trump gets the tiniest bit of Republican resistance.
Ah, ok.
Trump will get destroyed by independents and the Democratic coalition during the General election and will even struggle among the Republican party where large percentages do not support him.
Rubio/Cruz would imply a brokered convention which is going to set off those currently propping up Trump now, likely forcing a large percentage to be permanently disenfranchised. Cruz also struggles with a large portion of the Republican party, but not as large a percentage as Trump.
Either way, November 9th will be an excellent day to tune into Rush Limbaugh.
Yellowtail
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Short of a recession/terrorist attack/Hillary jailed, what's Cruz's path to 270?
He seems the worst possible fit for VA, NH, CO and PA.
He seems the worst possible fit for VA, NH, CO and PA.
Did well in the other NE states plus he doesn't like shifty and d money?
It's not so much that I am scared of one's policies over the other. I think both are terrible. It's just that Trump has shown the ability to get people to like him for irrational reasons, and that's what really scares me. I think that a Cruz campaign would be much easier to counter.
CO will go Blue henceforth. Mark my words.
QuiteWhittle
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Worst thing about Cruz candidacy now is that we won't get a Cruz candidacy in 2020.
Roland_Gunner
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True fact: Until today, Cruz hadn't won ONE county east of the Mississippi. Great Satan isn't kind enough to make him the alternative to Trump.
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Cruz is a politician. He's easy to anticipate. You know what he's going to do. Trump is a fucking hurricane blowing through everything. You have no idea what he's going to do, when he's going to do it, or what the result will be.
There was an article a few days ago where the Clinton people said they'd rather go up against Cruz than Trump.
There was an article a few days ago where the Clinton people said they'd rather go up against Cruz than Trump.
BoboBrazil
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The cpac guy on msnbc is saying Trump refused to attend because a reporter was going to ask him questions after his speech. He got shook by Megyn Kelly Thursday night.
Dominican Power
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Just saw the latest VICE episode on industrial meat and water shortages. We're so fucked.
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CPAC is releasing their straw poll at 5:00.
If any of us care.
If any of us care.
Basileus777
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Let's dispel the fiction that debates mean anything at this point in the race. Or that they ever meant anything beyond Rubio's disaster, which only mattered because of how close to NH it was.
Reports from the chair in my living room are saying the same thing
Tesseract
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The cpac was behind Trump mostly anyway, so w/e
does not bold well for FL....but we do have LA and we did have OK as test case.
Roland_Gunner
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Twitter says:
Per a Maine source, results of Portland, ME area caucus: Cruz 540, Trump 495, Kasich 29, Rubio 169.
YES! Cruz! Get innnn!!!
Per a Maine source, results of Portland, ME area caucus: Cruz 540, Trump 495, Kasich 29, Rubio 169.
YES! Cruz! Get innnn!!!
Basileus777
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I'm pretty comfortable with it. Cruz hanging around in close 2nd for a few more weeks is hardly bad news.
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BoboBrazil
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I hope Cruz's plan to attack Rubio to get rid of him in Flordia is actually true. Rubio was really the only scary option in a general against Hillary.
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The interesting thing would be to see if the party will actually get behind Cruz to try and stop the Trump Train.
As long as we don't get more tonsil stone gifs--I've been a little queasy ever since.
He's so far ahead of the game in polling, I wonder if that would offset Rubio/Cruz performing ahead of their polling in close caucus scenarios.
VendettaRed07
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Its really conflicting for me. I think I change my mind every day on who I want to win
Cruz would be easier in debates because he's not as explosive as Trump and won't crack Monica Lewinsky jokes the whole time like he would either. He's also an ideological candidate and can't moderate on certain issues so it should be easier for Hillary to beat him. It would be way more focused on substance rather than zings, so Hillary would have the advantage
But then Trump lets dems running attach all republicans who they are running against to the KKK in ads and stuff.
I have no idea who I want match up wise
Black Republican
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was close
Basileus777
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Winning Kansas by a big margin doesn't mean that Cruz has an actual path to the nomination.
BoboBrazil
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Trump is the general is the easier win for dems. People will actively turn out to vote against him and he won't have much of the backing of the billionaire groups like Koch brothers. Cruz would get the full backing of the rnc and people wouldn't feel the need to actively turn out to keep him out of office.
Trump/Cruz unity ticket was suggested earlier.
benjipwns
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This literally isn't possible. The primaries will be decided by the end of April at the latest.
With Trump having won weeks earlier.
VendettaRed07
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The format works against him
I think people are embarrassed to show up and say out loud they would vote for Trump. And are more likely to be swayed or pulled over to another candidate if pushed in a public setting
Trump does better when people can show up, vote and walk out and not have to announce or tell anyone else who they voted for
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