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Asking for a friend.
(It's imperfect but I love it. The original is obvi better and I'm only using that)
AND OF COURSE BAMS IS SHULK
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Can I say "fuck you" without getting banned?
Asking for a friend.
(It's imperfect but I love it. The original is obvi better and I'm only using that)
AND OF COURSE BAMS IS SHULK
This is an odd definition of a terrorist.
theprodigy
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you suck
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
It fits quite closely, it was politically motivated to a degree.
Omg you are so bad.
Xenoblade X is so fun! The story is sucky but the world and sidequests are excellent this is a travesty omg.
You are a mess.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT
Angry Fork
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Hillary is more despised amongst most republicans than Bernie but they think she's going to convince them to play ball somehow, it's weird. I personally don't think either would get anything passed with a republican congress which is why it makes more sense to go for the guy who's at least going to aim higher and defend the principles/interests of liberals/left wing people.
Not only that but only Bernie can potentially motivate the young and disenfranchised to vote during midterms, which is something everyone has said is sorely needed, but for some reason isn't being considered now because Hillary's coronation is more important.
He "came around" far earlier than Hillary ever did. He also has expressed support for trans-individuals even back in the 80s when it was popular to ignore our existence and plight. She's literally only claimed to support LGBT ever since it became the status quo and okay for her to support. And even on that front she hasn't really at all supported the T til literally a few months ago. I trust Bernie far more as his position feels more genuine than hers.
But this isn't on the topic of Xenoblade X. I'm not far enough to equate characters to candidates, unfortunately.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Xenoblade is amazing.
Haven't played X yet, too busy playing MGS5.
Haven't played X yet, too busy playing MGS5.
Basileus777
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Ben Carson is the potato.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
shinra-bansho
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Marketing personas are artificial people you create as a representation of a major segment. One for Clinton would be a black woman, 55, some to no college education, more moderate.
They don't mean there aren't other customers.
They don't mean there aren't other customers.
RustyNails
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Yes she can. Do you think Bernie would have been able to pass the Obama-Ryan compromise budget deal when it contained corporate welfare but was also a big win for spending? Of course not. He'd tear it apart.
Because of Obama I have affordable healthcare for the first time in my adult life that isn't tied to my parents. Because of Obama my friends were able to get married and so will I eventually (just gotta take care of that whole finding a man thing). Because of Obama much needed conversations on police brutality and student debt have been started. So sorry if I'm not exactly angry at continuing the status quo right now.
I think this is the core reason why Bernie's call for "political revolution" is falling on deaf ears. We're not exactly following the Bush years here. We're following a very popular democratic president who, despite overwhelming opposition, managed to get a whole lot done pushing the country left. "More status quo" isn't a bad thing when the status quo IS progress.
I don't believe that Bernie has ever cared about LGBT individual more than any other person in the Democratic caucus, and I think it's revisionist history to assume that he has some sort of sterling record on LGBT rights. Even his DOMA vote was caked in federalism with almost nothing about the plight of LGBT folks and his revisionist history that he voted it out of a sense of fairness is as fucking absurd as Hillary saying that DOMA was a compromise about stopping a constitutional amendment.
Neither of these people are your heroes.
It's a great game with shit characters and shit story, but the gameplay is still fucking amazing.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
This is only true in a universe where Republicans decide to not run attack ads or make any attacks. You mistake the lack of attacks currently with Republicans liking Sanders. This also indicates you have significant lack of awareness of politics.
ugaboga232
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I wish i had time to play any other games but dota 2 consumes everything. Bernie is keeper of the light, ben carson is wisp, donald trump is troll warlord, hillary is morphling, ted cruz is rikimaru, and marco rubio is slark.
Macho Madness
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Cruz won Wyoming. I guess.
neurosisxeno
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I think the more interesting part is that he carries Independents. In a General Election you have to figure they're going to be 30% of the vote, and the other 35% vote along party lines almost no matter what, which leaves Sanders in a good position for any matchup with Republicans.
The narrative against why Sanders would lose is constantly shifting, but I don't buy that Republican attack ads would sink him. I remember people said he was done the second he said "Your taxes will go up" during I think it was an NBC debate. The outcome was his numbers went up in the polls.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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"Go back to Auschwitz."
https://twitter.com/sakirkhader/status/708821173317050368
I never imagined that a guy with Jewish children and grandchildren would bring this back to America.
https://twitter.com/sakirkhader/status/708821173317050368
I never imagined that a guy with Jewish children and grandchildren would bring this back to America.
He hasn't even been able to get young people out in the numbers to vote for him to beat Hillary thus far! Hillary has a million+ more votes than he does!
The problem isn't getting young people out to vote. It's getting democrats out to vote of every stripe, especially minorities who make up the core of the democratic party.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I'm doing the same with Fortresscraft Evolved and Elder Scrolls Online.
I've played nothing else in weeks
😂
I don't like the idea of a terrorist being someone who uses violence for political reasons; that rules far too many people historically as terrorists.
A "terrorist" ought to be considered someone who uses violence against civilians to spread terror so as to achieve political goals. Once government/political/military figures are the target, the nature of the attack has changed to something else. Otherwise the term is too open to abuse.
Macho Madness
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I feel like we're now having the conversations we have every week or so. There should be a primary every Saturday. I don't care what it's for.
Doesn't he carry self-identifying independents voting in the dem primary? Most registered independents are republicans; I see no way he would do well with Punished Republicans. His beliefs are even more antithetical to theirs than hers are. Ignoring personal animus, of course.
OrangeGrayBlue
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Bernie voted for the '94 crime bill despite expressing serious dissatisfaction with certain aspects of it at the time. I don't think drawing a line in the sand a few feet further back than Hillary makes him an absolutist. ¯\_(ツ
_/¯neurosisxeno
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Lets be realistic, if Sanders wins the nomination he would get the minority vote. The Republican party has been outright hostile towards minorities, there's almost no way they vote for someone who has shown them hostility over someone who means well but they just don't love.
I don't disagree, but it's not meaningful. If Hillary wins the nomination, she would get the youth vote.
We have a tight primary in the democratic (adult) party. I think we will unify and do very well in November.
Bernie voted for the '94 crime bill despite expressing serious dissatisfaction with certain aspects of it at the time. I don't think drawing a line in the sand a few feet further back than Hillary makes him an absolutist. ¯\_(ツ
He also voted against the authorization of funds for use during the bailout, which Hillary has hit him on a few times, because it gave money to banks. I think he absolutely has some hangups he won't budge from.
I am in the same position regarding healthcare. I agree that Obama has been good in the other regards you mention as well and that he has gotten much done. But all she's going to do is the status quo. There is far more that needs to be tackled that we have continued to ignore that Bernie brings to the table.
Income inequality is one of the worst issues facing this nation that Republicans and some Democrats have both participated in continuing to widen for decades now. We have a literal working poor class of millions that can't afford access to even daily meals because of this. All that this does in the end is harm the lower, middle classes and our economy overall at the expense of temporarily lining the pockets of the rich. Hillary doesn't give a shit about this issue and it harms millions of Americans. That combined with his desire to tackle social issues that Hillary barely even touches makes me prefer Bernie far far more.
And as a trans-individual, I am not happy or willing to setytle with the status quo of just fighting for gay cis-men only. The LGBT movement has been co-opted more than long enough and it needs to be about all in the spectrum again.
RustyNails
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Republicans absolutely love Bernie, because he would get smoked in the general. And frankly, no one outside of democratic primaries (that constitutes less than 10% of GE electorate) knows about Bernie singing priases of Ortega and Castro. Thats just the way how things work.
Politics is really how you compromise and pass things. Thats how the budget deal passed. Bernie wants to run for a dictatorship where he doesnt want to politick. Just magically enact laws....or pass edicts.
This is just not how independent voters work. The vast majority of "independent" voters always vote in one direction or the other, so they're really just party voters that don't admit it.
Vox did a dive on this a while back and the actual number of independent voters who are really truly willing to vote for either party is like 2% of the electorate. Focusing on that is just chasing a political bugbear.
What is this???
What on earth is going on?
We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't believe that status quote is inherently a bad thing, especially when status quo IS progress. Obama may not have been able to tackle everything, but he got us started on the path. Hillary will continue down that path. And she has the political know-how and allies to make it happen. Bernie does not. Bernie is a lone wolf. Lone wolves don't get shit done in politics.
What on earth is going on?
We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't believe that status quote is inherently a bad thing, especially when status quo IS progress. Obama may not have been able to tackle everything, but he got us started on the path. Hillary will continue down that path. And she has the political know-how and allies to make it happen. Bernie does not. Bernie is a lone wolf. Lone wolves don't get shit done in politics.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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If Hamas retold the poem that Trump just told, we probably would have boots on the ground within a few days.
What is this???
What on earth is going on?
We were talking about it a page or two back. From the looks of it they're trying to rig it so he gets more delegates despite winning less counties.
You've posted this like four times now in the last half hour, so let's dig into it.
Here's Hillary's position on income inequality: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/plan-raise-american-incomes/
I don't think it's changed much in the past nine months.
Do you have substantive critiques of it? Or are you really just trying to say that you don't trust her?
RustyNails
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How far will Bernie the Politician draw the line in the sand for the budget that passed this year? Like what aspects of Republican fiscal policies will he accept in a budget deal? This is where the rubber meets the road.Bernie voted for the '94 crime bill despite expressing serious dissatisfaction with certain aspects of it at the time. I don't think drawing a line in the sand a few feet further back than Hillary makes him an absolutist. ¯_(ツ
neurosisxeno
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More than likely. I'm going to vote for either, depending on who wins, and I imagine most people who identify as Liberal would. I don't see how Hillary getting the youth vote by default and Bernie getting the minority vote by default are all that different.
I think it's a closer race than most people give Sanders credit for. If he wins Ohio and does well in Illinois and Florida, it will probably still be a gap of 200 delegates, which is way better than most people said he would do 3 months ago. After the 15th we have 5/8 of the next contests being Caucuses, and they are all states that favor Sanders. I've found it interesting as the (minority) Sanders supporter that the narrative has gone; He'll do great in Iowa and NH but loses everything after that... well maybe he'll do okay in Nevada... look at how he got smoked in SC, race is over! ... well he'll probably pick up some states on Super Tuesday... to just outright frustration that he keeps winning states here and there. Yea, he's losing by wide margins in the south, but he's made it a tight race in most other places, and won in some unexpected ones (Michigan, Oklahoma).
Ogrekiller
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Not only that once the image that Bernie's supporters are the ones contributing to the violence against Trump gets aired by the media...
Let's see how his favorability ratings fare once the Republican machine paints him as the Castro supporter whose band of mobsters on the street are attacking God fearing Christians on the street.
He should have completely disavowed the people chanting Bernie protesting Trump. Now he just gave the right a free pass to paint him as a socialist power grabber mobilizing his supporters to attack Republicans.
shinra-bansho
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I recall reading something along the lines of people wanting to disassociate themselves with the GOP post Bush. But they still reliably vote GOP.
I'm not sure if the same holds for lib, mod, con identification though.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Hillary has to be the wall that prevents fascism from coming to America so I hope she quits fucking up with these stupid gaffes. Trump has to be stopped.
There was some polling to that effect in 2008 and 2012. Basically a bunch of republicans were so embarrassed by Bush that they left the party, but continued to vote GOP. Which is why Romney won independents but lost the election.
The short version is winning independents doesn't mean shit anymore and looking at the GOP right now, that likely won't change.
Angry Fork
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I never said they liked Sanders, I said they despise Hillary more than Sanders, and will continue to do so. Nonetheless Trump has so far been running relatively liberal on economic positions (compared to his rivals, preserving social security, anti-trade agreements, "bringing our jobs back" etc.).
Not saying he actually believes any of that obviously but there's occasionally some overlap with Sanders in a rejection of neoliberalism except Sanders is further left. Trump doesn't really appeal as much to the libertarian/ayn rand complete anti-welfare people. The nazi's did the same in that they were extremely right wing socially but also created a welfare state (for "aryans" only obviously).
As I stated, he's actually given a shit about the community for decades longer. It makes him feel far more genuine than Hillary who has only jumped on when it was okay by the majority for her to do so. And unlike any other fucking Democrat he actually gave a shit about trans-individuals even decades back. It's not revisionist. It's me stating the blatant facts.
Also, a little history:
"By all measures, Sanders was ahead of his time in supporting gay rights. In 1983, as mayor of Burlington, he signed a Gay Pride Day proclamation calling it a civil rights issue. He was one of just 67 members in the House of Representatives to vote against the Defense of Marriage Act, a politically tough decision he prides himself on and points to as a key progressive bona fide. Sanders opposed Dont Ask Dont Tell in 1993, another President Bill Clinton-era policy, and supported civil unions in Vermont in 2000."
"In 1999, the Vermont Supreme Court ruled that the state had to guarantee protections and benefits to gay couples, a stop short of legalizing gay marriage. Sanders approved of the decision."
Which just only starts to cover how he has been on the matter. Suffice it to say, he has been a supporter/pushed for legislation in many manners far earlier than most Democrats. Not all but most. And easily way before Hillary ever came around to the issue. He has spoken passionately for us on the Senate floor even back in the mid 90s when it was unpopular to do so. Given the options, I much rather support him than her on the matter.
Tesseract
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What? Your assessment is really lopsided
neurosisxeno
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I don't think most people like being labeled as is. They try and appear the most neutral they can. I would say a majority of people technically identify as Independent just to appear non-biased, but reliably vote a certain way. And then there's single-issue voters that only vote Republican for Guns or lower Taxes or something.
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