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PoliGAF 2016 |OT4| Tyler New Chief Exit Pollster at CNN
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You're one of the "good ones"
Yeah it was!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The state that elected Walker twice? That has always been Cruz country.
Macho Madness
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If the polls are accurate, there was significant movement away from Trump in the last week in Wisconsin.
Polls had Trump way ahead forever.
Whenever a supporter yells that at a rally, I half expect her to get a tear in her eye, and stammer out, "You know, thank you, I never hear that at home, thank you, every single one of you!!"
blackaroni
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Maybe one day she'll give Matthews a thrill up his leg like Obama did in 08.
She'd better considering her history in the state. This will probably the most natural primary to campaign in for her since she can just treat it like one of her senate runs.
Macho Madness
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Wow
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RustyNails
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I cant have both Trump and Hilly losing Wisconsin...come on. That will suck. Trump needs to leak a Cruz sex tape or something. Right now.
Basileus777
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Trump losing Wisconsin by 10 points would basically cement a contested convention barring some kind of sweep of California CDs.
So she's only behind in one recent poll, right?
Seems like a lot of conclusions being drawn on one poll... I guess we'll have a better picture soon.
Still more coherent than Trump.
Macho Madness
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The last Marquette poll (February)
Trump 30
Rubio 20
Cruz 19
Kasich 8
Carson 8
Sanders 44
Clinton 43
So both Sanders and Clinton gained some support over the past month but Sanders gained a little more.
And for Republicans, this seems to be as a result of the winnowing field.
Trump 30
Rubio 20
Cruz 19
Kasich 8
Carson 8
Sanders 44
Clinton 43
So both Sanders and Clinton gained some support over the past month but Sanders gained a little more.
And for Republicans, this seems to be as a result of the winnowing field.
excelsiorlef
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Lol at the difference between Clinton vs Cruz and Sanders vs Cruz. I don't buy that at all.
This got posted on /s4p fishing for upvotes, and it did get them, about 4k+
Problem? All the top comments were about how Hillary has the better answer because it's a complicated issue, and bring up how the Bernie is anti-nuclear and posters discussing policy points between the two.
The thread was generally pretty civil.
Response? Mods lock the thread.
Because actually discussing policy in a calm fashion within a political subreddit is bad.
Brawndo Addict
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I always wonder when I see these kind of stats whether it's weighted based on demographic turnout. Young people overwhelmingly support Sanders, but since they're the least likely to vote it kind of cancels out. Unless they weight the results the stats are not actually that useful if your objective is to obtain evidence about who is most likely to win an election.
Poodlestrike
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I think part of why I'm not huge on Bernie (and wasn't all the way back in the beginning) is because I fundamental mistrust people who try to tell me that complex problems have simple solutions. It's true of some purely technical/scientific things, but policy? Hell no.
FUCK?
What about a for or against? People need to stand and be counted.
They kinda are.
Its how to implement and if exceptions can be made is where the problem lies.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
"Do the gays make jesus cry?"
Macho Madness
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"I don't support fracking if it's not environmentally viable" is seriously a good answer and really the only way you can tackle the issue. You can't just roll into wherever and say "You can't frack no more because I said so" but you can put restrictions in place that discourages it, and especially the tactics that hurt the environment.
Macho Madness
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And that's what a debate should be. Explain why you do or don't support something. Don't just say No. That's anti-intellectualism. And no, I don't support that.
Macho Madness
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hmmm
blackaroni
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Debra Messing and Susan Sarandon are beefing on Twitter lol
Man, this election season is pretty funny
LyleLanley
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Solid self-burn from Hilary.
Solid self-burn from Hilary.
Yeah lol wow
Macho Madness
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A weird tweet to make that rattled my twitter timeline
Should start calling them queenquakes considering how pissed off people get by them
Should start calling them queenquakes considering how pissed off people get by them
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
But we all knew Wisconsin was going to narrow and Trump had no shot.
Macho Madness
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No we didn't. A month ago it looked like any other state.
I didn't? I assumed it would look like IL
Thequietone
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I wouldn't consider that a self burn as no one is perfect and anyone who thinks they are perfect is delusional. That tweet just solidifies my view that she is a realist and the right person for the job. Anyone who thinks they are perfect cannot govern.
Box of Kittens
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Wisconsin seems like a case where Cruz's superior organization can make a big difference.
And a not so subtle dig at Sanders and his supporters that paint him as basically infalliable.
He has never really addressed any criticisms of his policies or his past record.
He was up 6 and 10 in Feb?
Bam Bam Baklava
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Basileus777
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The surprise in Wisconsin isn't that Cruz is ahead, it's that that poll put him ahead 10 points, which would be a disaster for Trump as Cruz would end up taking most (or even all) of the congressional districts.
I think it comes down to short-term vs long-term interests of the US. I'm sure you can make a bunch of arguments as to why alleviating global poverty is in the US' best long-term interest. Countries with stable and growing economies tend to go to war less often, I'm sure, and fewer wars means fewer wars to tempt US intervention.
And in practice, I'm sure a lot of other US vs the world issues can be described in that way.
I assumed Kasich would get more than he's getting, and that Trump would get a bigger bump. It wasn't that obvious.
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