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Of course, benji's tag presupposes the existence of property rights as a prior and is therefore totally wrong, but it's my favourite comedy tag on GAF so I give it a pass.
 
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Real life pic of Benji.

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Crab said:
Of course, benji's tag presupposes the existence of property rights as a prior and is therefore totally wrong, but it's my favourite comedy tag on GAF so I give it a pass.
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you should have seen my previous one, whoever gave me this one was trying to reward me or something
 
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benjipwns said:
you should have seen my previous one, whoever gave me this one was trying to reward me or something
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If they're taking suggestions, I'm advocating "Does it like Wilt Chamberlain."
 
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Crab said:
Most of those are pre-war examples; American politics has changed so radically since then I'm not sure you can use all those in one sample. After you exclude that, you're left with like 4 cases which isn't really enough to draw conclusions. If you suppose that the causal mechanism is people just getting tired of one party and scandals and corruption building up over time, the causal mechanism should be the same across all Western liberal democracies, so you could use a much larger sample that way.
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I never really suggested it had any predictive value, just that I was kind of surprised by the result when I actually checked.
 
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Rubio apologized for the small hands quip, I guess they really stuck it to him in the end. Dude has no aspirations beyond helping his friend run for now and says he wants to become a surrogate for other down ballot candidates.

Just fade away little marco.
 
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studyguy said:
Rubio apologized for the small hands quip, I guess they really stuck it to him in the end. Dude has no aspirations beyond helping his friend run for now and says he wants to become a surrogate for other down ballot candidates.

Just fade away little marco.
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I think if he'd waited to 2020 he'd have been a legitimate contender for President, but his career is dead now. Trump has inflicted critical damage, Rubio is never going to get away from what happened.
 
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The energy Bernie's campaign is generating can only depress turnout in my mind.

People don't like being shamed into voting a particular way. Unfortunately that's the only way the Sanders' campaign seems to know.
 
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I don't think it's dead. I bet if he ran this year for senate he'd win going away. Which is sad but that's republicans.
 
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Y2Kev said:
I don't think it's dead. I bet if he ran this year for senate he'd win going away. Which is sad but that's republicans.
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Running for reelection was his best chance to right the ship. Where does he go now? Run for governor in 2018 in a stacked primary against all of Florida's big name Republicans? Run for president again?
 
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Y2Kev said:
I don't think it's dead. I bet if he ran this year for senate he'd win going away. Which is sad but that's republicans.
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His Senate career would be fine, I just mean his presidential ambitions.
 
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Hillary should absolutely shout it "loud and proud", on mainstream media, the second her pledged and super delegate count reaches 2384, and her supporters, that haven't already voted, should most definitely rest easy ;).
 
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Daniel B·;204991350 said:
Hillary should absolutely shout it "loud and proud", on mainstream media, the second her pledged and super delegate count reaches 2384, and her supporters, that haven't already voted, should most definitely rest easy ;).
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Sure, I mean, there will only be like 1 or 2 hours left to vote in New Mexico, South Dakota and Montana afterwards, and the vast majority of California's vote comes from mail ballots anyway, so sure.
 
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I wish the military would sweep in with their tanks, trained soldiers and trillions of dollars in high tech weaponry to see what Sue Googe and her army of rebellious hick voters would do. Probably drop their guns, shit their pants and run into the woods. Fucking hicks.
 
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Sen. Bernie Sanders has begun pushing the Democratic Party toward a platform fight over the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a departure from his core focus on domestic economic issues that would put pressure on Hillary Clinton to handle a growing divide within her party.

The Democratic Party has long had a policy of support for Israel and its government, but consensus on that subject has frayed in recent years.

Four years ago, the floor of the Democratic National Convention erupted into boos after delegates, acting at the behest of President Obama, restored language to the party platform sought by backers of Israel. The language had been left out of an earlier draft, but White House officials wanted it restored to avoid alienating pro-Israel voters.

Since then, tensions between the administration and Israel have grown and so has unease among liberal Democrats about Israel's policies toward the Palestinians.

Many Democrats, including Obama, were angered last year when Republican lawmakers scheduled an address to Congress by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in which he denounced the administration's nuclear deal with Iran. The scale of civilian casualties in Israel's attack on Gaza in 2014 also alienated many liberals.
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http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-israel-democrats-20160527-snap-story.html

This is an issue that is worth stirring the party towards a better resolution. Clearly there has to be support for Israel, but the current way is not the way. Humanitarian aid, not military.
There is still a pro-Israeli Military rhetoric in the US, but there has been an increasing anti-Netanyahu in Europe.
I hope a better foreign policy proposal comes from this.

This is also an issue where Sanders have "evolved" his opinion. His military support record is that he has supported resolutions for the arming of Israel at every juncture. The first time he critizied Israel (from what I know) is after the incident in the hospital, which he called a "mistake". He's been labelled as a betrayer and not a friend of Israel, which shows what a hot button this issue is.


Clinton advisors would not discuss the issue on the record because of sensitivity to any move that might inflame tensions with Sanders and his supporters. But the campaign suggested in a statement that she would resist changes that would upset stauncher backers of Israel.

“Hillary Clinton’s views on Israel and the U.S.-Israel relationship are well-documented and she’s confident that her delegates will work to ensure that the party platform reflects them,” said Jake Sullivan, senior policy advisor.
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“It is meaningful in the optics,” said Sarah E. Yerkes, a former officer in the State Department Office of Israel and Palestinian Affairs, now a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution. “If the platform were to say that ‘Jerusalem could be a capital of a future Palestinian state,’ that would be a big red flag to Israelis.”

The platform is expected to be the subject of intense lobbying, both directly and indirectly, from Israel's supporters.

“We are watching every word, and it makes a big deal in Israel,” said a former Israeli diplomat who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity in discussing American domestic politics.

“It will not change quietly,” the former diplomat said. “I don’t think it will change because there are so many friends of Israel within the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.”
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I wonder if there is going to be new angle to this story. They've begun expanding aggressively with new settlements, which is sure to antagonize the Palestinians.

It begs the question; We've talked about who would be VP options for Clinton, but who would be a SOS. Would she find someone with a similar temperament as herself or would you find someone with a specific quality or niche? John Kerry strikes me as... Well, I am not sure how to put it. But sort of dense?

Clinton is accused of being hawkish, so who does she pick? Does she pick someone who plays into it, or does she try to get someone who has a reputation for being softer?
 
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"We love the bikers." --Donald Trump

Edit: Great top of the page fail.

More edit: Oh come on. This isn't a venue for a stump speech. Not cool, biker dudes. Though lol @ announcing that he's going to announce which charities he donated to.
 
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The original wall wasn't that effective, though, as Kublai and Nurhaci would attest to. Maybe she wants a Mexican dynasty to run the United States?
 
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Vigilant Walrus said:
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-israel-democrats-20160527-snap-story.html

This is an issue that is worth stirring the party towards a better resolution. Clearly there has to be support for Israel, but the current way is not the way. Humanitarian aid, not military.
There is still a pro-Israeli Military rhetoric in the US, but there has been an increasing anti-Netanyahu in Europe.
I hope a better foreign policy proposal comes from this.

This is also an issue where Sanders have "evolved" his opinion. His military support record is that he has supported resolutions for the arming of Israel at every juncture. The first time he critizied Israel (from what I know) is after the incident in the hospital, which he called a "mistake". He's been labelled as a betrayer and not a friend of Israel, which shows what a hot button this issue is.






I wonder if there is going to be new angle to this story. They've begun expanding aggressively with new settlements, which is sure to antagonize the Palestinians.

It begs the question; We've talked about who would be VP options for Clinton, but who would be a SOS. Would she find someone with a similar temperament as herself or would you find someone with a specific quality or niche? John Kerry strikes me as... Well, I am not sure how to put it. But sort of dense?

Clinton is accused of being hawkish, so who does she pick? Does she pick someone who plays into it, or does she try to get someone who has a reputation for being softer?
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If ever there was a year to do it with regards to Israel, this is the one. It won't be nearly as large a deal as in a traditional election year and will help position the US in a more stable negotiating position with regards to peace talks.

As for potential SoS for Clinton, I've always thought Panetta, Gates, Donilon, or Powers would all be great choices (although I doubt Gates would want to go back to a government position). All but powers are cut from the realist mold and all have extensive governmental and diplomatic experience.
 
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Bowdz said:
If ever there was a year to do it with regards to Israel, this is the one. It won't be nearly as large a deal as in a traditional election year and will help position the US in a more stable negotiating position with regards to peace talks.

As for potential SoS for Clinton, I've always thought Panetta, Gates, Donilon, or Powers would all be great choices (although I doubt Gates would want to go back to a government position). All but powers are cut from the realist mold and all have extensive governmental and diplomatic experience.
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It's also a question of Saudi Arabia. It suits me perfectly fine that SA is giving Obama cold shoulders. The sooner they are out in the cold, the sooner they cannot dictate or fund terrorism in the same manner! I'd hope the SOS is someone who won't try and bridge with SA, and more likely to go the way of sanctions!

Iran seems to play ball now, given that they were hailed as heroes after they closed the Iran deal! I got the impression that Iran genuinely desires to be an effective emerging economy, even though the concerns of them also funding terrorism in Syria is troubling.
 
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