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PoliGAF 2016 |OT9| The Wrath of Khan!

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jevity

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during commercial break on MSNBC Christine on CNN told Corey something along the lines of, you cant expect us to commend trump on being a able to read, a third grader can do that
 
Utah Senate poll:

Mike Lee: 57
Misty Snow: 22
Bill Barron (a friend of mine): 6

.... So there's that?

So, I would say that while it's admirable that Misty is running and we need to have people who aren't millionaires in Congress, this also means that just because you're super progressive does not mean that you're going to magically find 50+1% of the vote in super red states like Utah.
 
OMG RACHEL

"We have a new electoral map that will not please Donald Trump's campaign...whether or not it's written in Cyrillic."

I said GOD DAMN.
 

jevity

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Rachel with the Cyrillic finisher !

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edit : beaten, sorry
 
I don't get the logic behind assigning the one electoral vote in NE to Hillary while saying the one in Maine is a toss up.

OMG, Rachel is adorable tonight.
 

jevity

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CNN update :

Corey answering " let's wait and see until election day" to mostly everything.
Aaaand comparing the importance of having ground game in the primaries with having it in the GE.
 
Mark Cuban and Carl Icahn are having a twitter fight over Trump.

Why can't I hold all these billionaires?

So good billionaires:
Buffett. Bloomberg. Mark Cuban. Kev.

Shit billionaires:
Icahn. Thiel.
 
I don't get the logic behind assigning the one electoral vote in NE to Hillary while saying the one in Maine is a toss up.

OMG, Rachel is adorable tonight.

As somebody who lives in southern Maine, I agree with this. I know northern Maine is like a horror movie where a bunch of teens on vacation take the wrong exit and get killed in the woods, but there is next to no Trump presence here. His supporters are either deeply closeted or too decrepit to leave their mausoleums to have any social impact.
 

jevity

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Kind of hard to be bullish when your guy is about to get crushed by the biggest electoral landslide in over 20 years.

Agreed.

But the brutality is on the level of the Mongols

It's a non-stop revolving exercise in ego-visceration of defenseless test subjects
 

itschris

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The AP fact checks eight major lies, falsehoods and inaccuracies in Trump's speech:

AP: FACT CHECK: Trump gets his Mideast history wrong

TRUMP: "President Obama and Hillary Clinton should have never attempted to build a democracy in Libya, to push for immediate regime change in Syria or to support the overthrow of Mubarak in Egypt."

THE FACTS: Trump seems to be confusing Obama and Clinton's limited interventions, and sometimes non-interventions, with President George W. Bush's post-9/11 regime-change efforts.

TRUMP on Clinton's role in the Libya campaign: "With one episode of bad judgment after another, Hillary Clinton's policies launched ISIS onto the world stage."

THE FACTS: The U.S.-led military campaign in Libya created a security vacuum and political chaos. But it took three years before IS emerged in Iraq and Syria, and there is no connection between those developments.

TRUMP on the Iraq war: "I have been clear for a long time that we should not have gone in. But I have been just as clear in saying what a catastrophic mistake Hillary Clinton and President Obama made with the reckless way in which they pulled out."

THE FACTS: Trump did publicly say he wanted U.S. troops out years earlier than Obama pulled them out.

He said in March 2007 the U.S. should declare victory and withdraw troops because Iraq was going to get further bogged down in civil strife.

TRUMP: "I have long said that we should have kept the oil in Iraq ... In the old days, when we won a war, to the victor belonged the spoils."

THE FACTS: While Trump argues against nation-building, he seems to be suggesting the U.S. should have seized Iraq and its natural resources as an American colony. He ignores the fact that Iraq is a sovereign country and the U.S. at no point threatened to take possession of the country.

Trump says he would have used the money from oil sales to pay for the care of wounded soldiers. But the mission would require a permanent occupation, or at least until the oil runs out, and a large presence of American soldiers to guard sometimes isolated oil fields and infrastructure.

TRUMP: "Anyone who cannot name our enemy is not fit to lead our country. Anyone who cannot condemn the hatred, oppression and violence of radical Islam lacks the moral clarity to serve as our president."

THE FACTS: Obama doesn't use the phrase "radical Islamic terrorism," but he condemns the group harshly and regularly. He has characterized IS fighters as "thugs," ''thieves" and terrorists.

...

Trump's actual opponent in the presidential race, Clinton, is more comfortable with such terminology.

She has used the terms "radical jihadism" and "radical Islamism."

TRUMP on one of the San Bernardino shooters: "She wanted to support very openly jihad online... A neighbor saw suspicious behavior, bombs on the floor and other things, but didn't warn authorities because they said they didn't want to be accused of racial profiling."

THE FACTS: There is no such evidence.

TRUMP: "I had previously said that NATO was obsolete because it failed to deal adequately with terrorism. Since my comments, they have changed their policy and now have a new division focused on terror threats.

THE FACTS: NATO established a Defense Against Terrorism program in 2004, long before Trump ran for president. And its latest efforts in Iraq were already under discussion when Trump criticized the alliance in March.

TRUMP: The Islamic State "has a new base of operations" in Libya.

THE FACTS: Islamic State militants have tried to establish such a base in the city of Sirte. But a U.S.-supported military offensive in Libya this year has all but driven the group out of its former headquarters there.

More at the link - I abbreviated the fact checks so I wasn't quoting the whole article.
 
The AP fact checks eight major lies, falsehoods and inaccuracies in Trump's speech:

AP: FACT CHECK: Trump gets his Mideast history wrong

More at the link - I abbreviated the fact checks so I wasn't quoting the whole article.

I wonder what Trump speeches would look like if you edited out all the factual inaccuracies.

ISIS are terrorists. Obama is currently President. I have dollars. Hillary Clinton voted for some things.

The Trump campaign's response to the Manafort story: I know you are, but what am I?

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https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/765367577367511040

The hilarious thing about this, I think, is that all of a sudden Putin is awful again if Clinton did anything with him.
 
I do wonder how the rest of the republican party and the base feel about Trump's at least non antipathy attitude towards the LGBT community. Will they continue down that path after the election, or will that be completely disregarded as a failed Trump tactic?
 
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