I really don't understand what people want Obama to do in LA. Presidential security is hard enough when you have functioning transportation infrastructure. What to they want, Obama to go around the flood zone in an airboat? Literally the only thing he could do is zoom over in Marine 1, which is exactly what they excoriated Bush for during Katrina.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT9| The Wrath of Khan!
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nature boy
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TheLostBigBoss
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Never heard if that polster
Finally gave a little bit to Angie Craig's campaign. I'll prob never live in Minnesota, but god I hope she beats that bigoted scumbag Jason Lewis who The Atlantic calls "mini-Trump"
User 85168
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That 89 percent on foreign gov intervention lol
DrForester
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benjipwns
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They list Hillary Clinton's campaign as one of their current clients:
So probably Johnson +15 is the real number.
CoffeeJanitor
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Also I really fail to see the difference between leverage and payment.
Sad to say there is some merit to this dtory.
Sad to say there is some merit to this dtory.
benjipwns
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Not at all. Far more accurate measures are Facebook likes and campaign rally attendance.
Spiritreaver
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I don't get why this is "sassy". It's not sassy. It's outrageously camp!
Yes, we're a few weeks post convention so these polls definitely matter
nature boy
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Joe Shlabotnik
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Well I think he means isn't state polling more important, and it is.
But the national polling average gets more accurate as we get closer to the election and a democrat isn't going to lose the election leading the popular vote by more than 3%.
CoffeeJanitor
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Probably at minimum talk about It
benjipwns
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look at Stein's support in the income brackets
she also leads Gary among Republicans 4% to 3%
plagiarize
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Who the heck are these clowns? I looked at some of their other headlines and I think they're polling bizzaro America.
As someone that called the story a bad one last night, there is a difference. Payment is something that can be repeated, while using leverage in this situation is actually a good "deal". They were giving the money anyway, so they got the hostages for "free".
However, notice how much I had to avoid using "real" words with meaning and that I was basically going into Hillary-email-talk territory. So, while what they did was correct, the image projected is not a good one. Also, it took ~8 months for the full details.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I was referring to the difference between national polls and state polls. State polls are far more important, no?
These guys have also had Obama's approval in the low-40s for weeks.
plagiarize
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Here's the thing about that, and I'm sure it won't go away etc etc. But we didn't pay a ransom to a foreign country. If anything, we were the ones holding something to ransom. "You can have your money back only if you meet our conditions."
Is basically how it went down. But obviously people are going to go hard after Obama on this, because... well that's what people do.
Many people are saying
nature boy
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Looks like the usdailywire.com site was registered on August 3rd, 2016 so fake as hell.
The fact that it's a wordpress.com site, there's no internals, no contact number, no posts before August should be a dead giveaway.
metalslimer
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Yeah the fact that they kept it hush hush for so long makes it a lot worse. The way its going to be spread is that Obama was forced to pay to get the hostages back when it was nothing like that at all. Obama should have gotten out ahead of it a few weeks ago and just said yeah we weren't going to give Iran the money we owed them until we got our people back.
BenjaminBirdie
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Why? The governor specifically asked him to stay away. They don't have the infrastructure to support a presidential visit.
Now that Trump has successfully pivoted, it seems like he has the election in the bag. Keep in mind the following:
1) Wikileaks is planning to indict Hillary, sending her to wikiprison.
2) When you unskew the polls to include more Republicans and factor in facebook likes, Trump is only behind by about 3-4 points.
3) Liberals do not understand the powerful connection Trump has with the working class. Keep in mind that white, male voters with less than a college degree are by their nature the most valuable and important voters.
4) Trump is teflon, he can say whatever he wants and nothing will hurt him. His poll numbers just keep going up.
5) There is a long history of republican candidates etch-a-sketching their way past the primaries and putting on a moderate front for the general. The last person to successfully use this strategy was, famously, President Romney.
6) Successful business billionaire Donald Trump has unlimited personal resources to spend on the campaign.
7) Famed election analyst Michael Moore has already predicted a Trump victory.
8) All of the analysts said Trump couldn't win the primaries, but he did! Now people say he can't win the general?
9) Remember that time the nowcast had Trump winning?
10) Hillary is just too shrill and unlikable. She is a bad candidate, as evidenced by the fact that Only Bernie Can Win.
Bottom line, either the pivot is real and Trump wins the election easily, or the pivot is not real and the GOP replaces him with a master class moderate politician like Marco Rubio, who wins the election easily with his 3-2-1 strategy.
It's over.
1) Wikileaks is planning to indict Hillary, sending her to wikiprison.
2) When you unskew the polls to include more Republicans and factor in facebook likes, Trump is only behind by about 3-4 points.
3) Liberals do not understand the powerful connection Trump has with the working class. Keep in mind that white, male voters with less than a college degree are by their nature the most valuable and important voters.
4) Trump is teflon, he can say whatever he wants and nothing will hurt him. His poll numbers just keep going up.
5) There is a long history of republican candidates etch-a-sketching their way past the primaries and putting on a moderate front for the general. The last person to successfully use this strategy was, famously, President Romney.
6) Successful business billionaire Donald Trump has unlimited personal resources to spend on the campaign.
7) Famed election analyst Michael Moore has already predicted a Trump victory.
8) All of the analysts said Trump couldn't win the primaries, but he did! Now people say he can't win the general?
9) Remember that time the nowcast had Trump winning?
10) Hillary is just too shrill and unlikable. She is a bad candidate, as evidenced by the fact that Only Bernie Can Win.
Bottom line, either the pivot is real and Trump wins the election easily, or the pivot is not real and the GOP replaces him with a master class moderate politician like Marco Rubio, who wins the election easily with his 3-2-1 strategy.
It's over.
User 463088
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Comparing the ad buys between Hillary and Donald. How in the hell is he not advertising in the Cleveland market. This is stupid. You advertise there. The Cleveland market goes pretty far south in North East Ohio into red counties, such as Ashland and Richland. He should be on the air there!
TheLostBigBoss
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why are you guys assuming Manafort is going "fuck this" when more and more shit is connecting him to Russia.
This is damage control
This is damage control
Dubbedinenglish
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Will Trump accept the resignation?
Good though, he turned out to be much more of an evil person that I thought.
Good though, he turned out to be much more of an evil person that I thought.
metalslimer
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Good this will take up more of the news today,
Idk, the real answer is probably more that he's not in charge anymore and doesn't want to just sit around in an office while Bannon runs the show and ignores him and the media pound him over Ukraine. Nobody wants to be a zombie campaign leader.
The positive spin is that I don't think Manafort is a true Trump believer like Corey was/is. I can see Manafort leaking stuff or talking to the press someday.
nature boy
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Don't think the President should been chillin' like it's nothing, yes federal resources are available but people want to see the president in times of crisis.
TheLostBigBoss
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That would be amazing because it would tank Trump
Veritigo_X
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User 463088
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After his "masterful" pivot, the media is only going to talk about Dude Bro Lochte and Manafort. GOOD JOB Trump's people. Goooood job.
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