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PoliGAF 2016 |OT9| The Wrath of Khan!

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This god damn election cycle is too dank for the feds...

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benjipwns

Banned
i flipped on hannity for five minutes and he was giving some lady a list of reasons to back Trump, and you've got all the standard ones on there, taxes, reverse Obamacare, Supreme Court, wall, tough foreign policy, etc.

and then right in the middle he's got "A President who will actually say the words: Radical Islam"

lol never change Sean
 

sc0la

Unconfirmed Member
i flipped on hannity for five minutes and he was giving some lady a list of reasons to back Trump, and you've got all the standard ones on there, taxes, reverse Obamacare, Supreme Court, wall, tough foreign policy, etc.

and then right in the middle he's got "A President who will actually say the words: Radical Islam"

lol never change Sean
our long national nightmare of not hearing those words is over.

did this get posted, H.W.'s letter he left for Bill Clinton:
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HW is definitely the classiest Bush since circa 1970s pornography.
 

Holmes

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NC GOP operative saying Trump could lose Wake county (Raleigh) today by 25-30 points. Obama carried it by 11%. That, along with similar movement in Charlotte's suburbs would be a near double digit win for Clinton. Clinton has nearly twenty field offices in North Carolina, many in those same suburbs, and they're opening more soon. While Republicans in the state panic over the complete lack of a ground game there for them, Democrats seem to be working overtime. Hopefully their efforts there change the state the way Obama did in Virginia.
 

benjipwns

Banned
Democratic Presidential Nominee Hillary Clinton is getting ready to celebrate her husband’s 70th birthday this evening on Martha’s Vineyard, according to a Clinton aide speaking to CNN.
this is so insensitive to the poor victims in Louisiana of the CEO of flooding Obama

EDIT: FUCK
Charlie Spiering ✔ @charliespiering
Obama and Hillary on Martha’s Vineyard, while Trump is visiting flood victims in Louisiana #BadOptics
2:04 PM - 19 Aug 2016
 
The reason the state GOP is so hysterical (see: the doubling down on voter suppression) is that they gerrymandered the state legislature with 2010/2012 suburban splits in mind. All the +5/+6 R districts they created have a chance at getting pulled out from under them.

The NC GOP gerrymandering was done to specifically create a Texas style permanent GOP control of the statehouse, this threatens it. No one in the state GOP cares that McRory will lose. The Burr panic is at the federal level, no one in the state GOP cares much about him either. It's all about being able to spew garbage, patronage, and nepotism from the General Assembly.
 

Joeytj

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NC GOP operative saying Trump could lose Wake county (Raleigh) today by 25-30 points. Obama carried it by 11%. That, along with similar movement in Charlotte's suburbs would be a near double digit win for Clinton. Clinton has nearly twenty field offices in North Carolina, many in those same suburbs, and they're opening more soon. While Republicans in the state panic over the complete lack of a ground game there for them, Democrats seem to be working overtime. Hopefully their efforts there change the state the way Obama did in Virginia.

Seems like white suburbs are effectively lost to Republicans this year, damn.

And the Clinton campaign hasn't even rolled out their Republicans for Hillary announcement and endorsements.
 

Boke1879

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NC GOP operative saying Trump could lose Wake county (Raleigh) today by 25-30 points. Obama carried it by 11%. That, along with similar movement in Charlotte's suburbs would be a near double digit win for Clinton. Clinton has nearly twenty field offices in North Carolina, many in those same suburbs, and they're opening more soon. While Republicans in the state panic over the complete lack of a ground game there for them, Democrats seem to be working overtime. Hopefully their efforts there change the state the way Obama did in Virginia.

You know over the past day some posters here are saying how Clinton needs to be more visible/go on the offensive more. While I don't disagree, she's not really losing anything.

Her and her campaign are actually doing what the fuck they're supposed to be doing. Opening field offices, spending on ads etc. Trump has been busy spouting nonsense, defending himself and "resetting" his campaign. I do believe him visiting LA will play well. I'll even give him the benefit of the doubt, but it hasn't made me want to vote for him either.
 

Holmes

Member
The reason the state GOP is so hysterical (see: the doubling down on voter suppression) is that they gerrymandered the state legislature with 2010/2012 suburban splits in mind. All the +5/+6 R districts they created have a chance at getting pulled out from under them.

The NC GOP gerrymandering was done to specifically create a Texas style permanent GOP control of the statehouse, this threatens it. No one in the state GOP cares that McRory will lose. The Burr panic is at the federal level, no one in the state GOP cares much about him either. It's all about being able to spew garbage, patronage, and nepotism from the General Assembly.
From your lips to God's ears, but I would still bet on Republicans keeping the state legislature, though they will take a hit.
 
did this get posted, H.W.'s letter he left for Bill Clinton:
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Honestly, folks, this is why you need me in Washington. These politicians, they're all the same. They talk big in public, but when you get'em alone, when you get'em ALONE, it's all handshakes, and nice words, and smiles, cuz they're all part, they're all part of a SYSTEM, folks. I should know, I was part of that system, I gave money to everybody.
 

Captain Pants

Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
Right now I think the only way Hillary gets press coverage is if she goes on the attack against Trump, and I don't think she needs to do that. She's out there campaigning without fucking a duck, and that doesn't make headlines when you are running against Trump. She just needs to stay clean and kick his ass in the debate(s).
 
H.W. Bush was no saint but his foreign policy team helped us go from fighting for a stable world peace to one where we protect the world order. Obama (and Hillary after him) will continue to protect that.
 

benjipwns

Banned
Some good new hard hitting videos recently:
Jacobin Magazine DEFENDS Robert Conquest Lies Against Stalin
On Reactionary Liberal Individualism
Socialist Skeptic1 week ago
Explaining operant conditioning to liberals is like explaining evolution to creationists.
splits seconds6 days ago
But is int homosexuality a product of capitalism alienation? Maybe anyone who support "gay rights " is also infected with liberalism disease? .

Documents Show Hillary Clinton Sold Weapons to ISIS (dat outfit)
 

Dierce

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Right now I think the only way Hillary gets press coverage is if she goes on the attack against Trump, and I don't think she needs to do that. She's out there campaigning without fucking a duck, and that doesn't make headlines when you are running against Trump. She just needs to stay clean and kick his ass in the debate(s).
That is a problem, she is betting it all on the debates. I think she had the chance a few weeks back for go all out attack on orange turd and force him against the wall. Just make sure everyone can see the coward and fraud that he is therefore making it impossible for him to try to tone down.

I really dislike how Democrats tend to be reactionary and never come out swinging. I don't understand why Obama had to go on a vacation while there is an ongoing catastrophic flooding during a damn election year. They should have made it very clear from the onset that he was more than willing to go but didn't want to compromise the rescue and surveying efforts by having road closures which occur whenever a president or presidential candidate visits an area. This statement should have been made before orange turd decided to go and would have essentially labeled turd's intention for what it really is, a publicity stunt that is damaging people.
 
If I bought weed, which I don't, because drugs are for losers, and I'm a winner.....why would you mail it? Like I said, the guy who I would buy pot from, if I took pot, which I don't, takes credit cards. He now delivers for an extra fee. Again. Not that I would have this particular service.

DARE to be drug free fam.

I usually just walk to the shop a couple blocks from my house, but then I live in a state where it's legal mad max style post apocalyptic hellscape ruined--yo stop hogging the Cheez Its
 

Trouble

Banned
Right now I think the only way Hillary gets press coverage is if she goes on the attack against Trump, and I don't think she needs to do that. She's out there campaigning without fucking a duck, and that doesn't make headlines when you are running against Trump. She just needs to stay clean and kick his ass in the debate(s).

Exactly. Why would she want to steal media cycles when Trump has just been a never ending string of self-inflicted wounds for weeks now?
 

thefro

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Exactly. Why would she want to steal media cycles when Trump has just been a never ending string of self-inflicted wounds for weeks now?

That and the Olympics are ongoing, so it's dumb to even try to steal media cycles right now. Even Trump's barely getting any news coverage.
 

Piecake

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i flipped on hannity for five minutes and he was giving some lady a list of reasons to back Trump, and you've got all the standard ones on there, taxes, reverse Obamacare, Supreme Court, wall, tough foreign policy, etc.

and then right in the middle he's got "A President who will actually say the words: Radical Islam"

lol never change Sean

Didn't you know? Those are the secret magic words that a president can say to end all terrorism
 
I usually just walk to the shop a couple blocks from my house, but then I live in a state where it's legal mad max style post apocalyptic hellscape ruined--yo stop hogging the Cheez Its
Ya, but for the first time in my life, I can get that shit delivered. Again. Not that I would. I mean, I wouldn't even know what to do with it.

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Robert Costa ‏@costareports 50m50 minutes ago
Per two people familiar, Trump was handed print-out of AP story on Manafort/lobbying disclosure shortly before going on stage in NC...

Robert Costa ‏@costareports 50m50 minutes ago
Trump "blew a gasket" as one person described it, and told Bannon that changes needed to made...


Robert Costa ‏@costareports 52m52 minutes ago
Manafort was told in candid terms about how Trump felt and prepared to resign in the wake of those conversations...

So the AP story triggered everything.
 

benjipwns

Banned
That is a problem, she is betting it all on the debates. I think she had the chance a few weeks back for go all out attack on orange turd and force him against the wall. Just make sure everyone can see the coward and fraud that he is therefore making it impossible for him to try to tone down.

I really dislike how Democrats tend to be reactionary and never come out swinging. I don't understand why Obama had to go on a vacation while there is an ongoing catastrophic flooding during a damn election year. They should have made it very clear from the onset that he was more than willing to go but didn't want to compromise the rescue and surveying efforts by having road closures which occur whenever a president or presidential candidate visits an area. This statement should have been made before orange turd decided to go and would have essentially labeled turd's intention for what it really is, a publicity stunt that is damaging people.
No, she's betting it all on the math.

Just keep churning out the positive ads, with a few critical ones, as long as Trump is floundering.

You wait, even if the polls get tighter (which they should in a couple weeks just because)
and watch what he does. Don't force it. Forcing it was how Kerry and Romney blew everything they had at the wrong time constantly. (Except for that first debate for Romney.)

News cycles and voters process information too quickly, it becomes a mush. That's one reason the GOP is trying to stick to e-mails because it's consistent. Let the cycles churn to show you what sticks.

Usually being the "Not [X]" candidate is a bad idea, but Hillary is atypical in that she's well known already. And her negatives can drop, especially when she's out of the fray. (This happens more than most candidates and campaigns want to accept.)
 
No, she's betting it all on the math.

Just keep churning out the positive ads, with a few critical ones, as long as Trump is floundering.

You wait, even if the polls get tighter (which they should in a couple weeks just because)
and watch what he does. Don't force it. Forcing it was how Kerry and Romney blew everything they had at the wrong time constantly. (Except for that first debate for Romney.)

News cycles and voters process information too quickly, it becomes a mush. That's one reason the GOP is trying to stick to e-mails because it's consistent. Let the cycles churn to show you what sticks.

Usually being the "Not [X]" candidate is a bad idea, but Hillary is atypical in that she's well known already. And her negatives can drop, especially when she's out of the fray. (This happens more than most candidates and campaigns want to accept.)

That's my read as well. They need to keep their heads down and stay the course for the next two and a half months. Respond as necessary, prepare for the debates, but don't force anything.
 
When you're in a campaign period where your opponent has had weeks of unforced errors and there's an olympics going on in the side, why would you try to bend over backwards to dominate the news cycle? Makes no sense.
 

benjipwns

Banned
He is almost 70.

Older people are used to managing paper copies of stuff. That's why Hillary wanted stuff printed too. They've spent all their working life having print outs and shit.

My mom and people at work never can remember where they're saving their files and do the same thing.

Old hippie professor who recently retired printed out all his e-mails and filed them in a filing cabinet...by date received lol

No, of course he couldn't ever find anything, so he'd have to go on and print out a new copy.
 
I just want to say kudos to Trump for this one because he responded appropriately. He didn't fire Manafort before because the rumors were as of yet unsubstantiated. Even the NYTimes story was not definitive. But as soon as the evidence became clear, at a time when Trump needs to change his public image, he fired him instaneously. Also, I think Trump probably felt personally offended that a Russian puppet might try to take advantage of his campaign simply because he has a distrust of the conventional international power structure.

Last thing: the imagery of Bannon, the force behind Breitbart, telling Manafort, one of the most important strategists in modern Republican history, that he has to resign is perhaps a perfect representation of the new Republican party.
 

Makai

Member
He is almost 70.

Older people are used to managing paper copies of stuff. That's why Hillary wanted stuff printed too. They've spent all their working life having print outs and shit.

My mom and people at work never can remember where they're saving their files and do the same thing.

Old hippie professor who recently retired printed out all his e-mails and filed them in a filing cabinet...by date received lol

No, of course he couldn't ever find anything, so he'd have to go on and print out a new copy.
This is why the singularity will never happen
 
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