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PoliGAF 2016 |OT9| The Wrath of Khan!
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User 463088
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Seriously, though. None of you fry up an egg and mash it into a doughnut or something. So the runny yolk gets all over the sweet doughnut? It's fucking delicious. Or, you can do a biscuit, apple butter, with a fried egg on top of that. I'm legit asking because this is something my family has always done. It's not just me. Maybe it's just a up in the West Virginia country thing though.
Hahahaha....
Thank you! I have at least one friend.
And CCS agress with me even if he's not here to defend himself. Because he knows I'm always right. So that's 2!
Hahahaha....
Thank you! I have at least one friend.
And CCS agress with me even if he's not here to defend himself. Because he knows I'm always right. So that's 2!
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Hmm, I'm a little surprised that Trump flip-flopped on amnesty before gun control.
Trump has always been a huge racist, but he used to support gun control (as most people from New York do).
Trump has always been a huge racist, but he used to support gun control (as most people from New York do).
Say who?
sazzy
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The most recent Economist/YouGov poll is quite extensive. Its a 174 page pdf.
Have a look.
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/fs009vw1xv/econTabReport.pdf
For example, 39% of people qualify Trump as Evil (36% male, 42% female and by party, 66% Dem, 36% Ind and 9% Repub)
Clinton is 38% total (41%, 33% and 11%, 40% and 71% respectively).
Have a look.
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/fs009vw1xv/econTabReport.pdf
For example, 39% of people qualify Trump as Evil (36% male, 42% female and by party, 66% Dem, 36% Ind and 9% Repub)
Clinton is 38% total (41%, 33% and 11%, 40% and 71% respectively).
Bam Bam Baklava
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174 page polling reports and they can't figure out why the hell their Obama approval is routinely 5+ points below the average.
I've heard of people having sharp cheddar with apple pie and I'm originally from the midwest, so it's definitely a thing people do in some regions. I mean, at least it's not like the Mid-Atlantic's thing with fuckin' scrapple. Now there's something worth getting upset over.
How can that be when we know she's been getting evil injected directly into her ass?
How can that be when we know she's been getting evil injected directly into her ass?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I guess the low number of Republicans thinking Trump is evil puts an end to the "Evangelicals are voting for the lesser of two evils!" theory and the more fun "Evangelicals think he's the Antichrist who will cause the rapture!" theory.
Lmao, that sounds like a threat to me.
As for adam's tastes, while I'd never heard of cheese on an apple pie, it makes sense in a sweet/savory sense considering apples and cheese are a fairly standard snack/appetizer. It seems like a pretty decent combo IMO.
That being said, ice cream is objectively delicious, so you're wrong on that one adam. I'm pretty sure Newton's fourth law was that ice cream is fucking delicious.
User 463088
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No, no no. Glazed . Maybe a cake or sour cream doughnut (Blueberry or strawberry). But I'm allergic to strawberries....so I can't do that.
Spiritreaver
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I can see how eggs and donuts can be good. Haven't you all ever had pancakes with eggs and the syrup seeps over the eggs and bacon?
SO GOOD.
SO GOOD.
Suddenly I feel like I should try and acquire a taste for rum.
...
I mean I KNOW taste is subjective, but how dose it feel holding so many wrong opinions?
User 463088
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Just something I wanted to point out
Those IPSOS things aren't what we'd traditionally consider a poll, poll.
They take their national survey, determine what state everyone is from, and the weight it based on demographics and stuff. It's more like 538 if 538 only used polls from one company. Kinda interesting, but eh, not sure it should be included in Nate's model but whatever.
Those IPSOS things aren't what we'd traditionally consider a poll, poll.
They take their national survey, determine what state everyone is from, and the weight it based on demographics and stuff. It's more like 538 if 538 only used polls from one company. Kinda interesting, but eh, not sure it should be included in Nate's model but whatever.
Aaron Strife
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This is incredible.
There was an article about Clinton's ability to listen and turn that into results (I believe Ezra Klein wrote it) and specifically mentioned Clinton name-dropping the 10-20-30 plan.
I think Clinton could really be the most effective president in terms of legislation since LBJ, but for completely different reasons. How much can she accomplish by going on the charm offensive with members of Congress, throwing her support behind their pet projects and ideas that have been swimming around for years, and demonstrating that she can actually get support and momentum for said pet projects?
I shouldn't get ahead of myself, there are plenty of Congresscritters who will go into next year hating her guts and never willing to work with her, but... Who knows?
User 463088
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The one thing about Hillary is that she's not worried about getting credit for something. If she can get something she wants through, and Ryan needs to take credit, she'll let him. I think the GOP in power hates her guts on television, but would be relieved that she won. Not enough to publicly work with her, but enough that if she helps them get their pet projects through they'll play nice enough.
googleplex
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I swear to god this is a thing people do.
The fuck! I thought me and my family were the only ones that did this! My mom is from Arkansas so i just always assumed it was a southern thing.
But you gotta try this with condensed milk Adam. Its god tier
Staff writer for The New Yorker:
Hmm, yes, why would renowned Nobel Prize winners donate to a charity doing a lot of great work like fighting HIV in Africa other than for access to Hillary?
Hmm, yes, why would renowned Nobel Prize winners donate to a charity doing a lot of great work like fighting HIV in Africa other than for access to Hillary?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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"Hillary taking money from monsters like Weisel shows that she is not fit to be president." -Baraka probably.
Staff writer for The New Yorker:
Hmm, yes, why would renowned Nobel Prize winners donate to a charity doing a lot of great work like fighting HIV in Africa other than for access to Hillary?
Hasn't it ever occurred to these people that they donated to the Clinton Foundation because they knew the Clintons and not the other way around, i.e., they only knew the Clintons because they donated to the Foundation?
I mean, ok. Let's indulge them for a bit: The Clintons set up the foundation to keep doing good/being in the spotlight and hanging around with people in power. Never mind that Hillary was a Senator and Bill was President, the Clinton Foundation was meant to be the real source of their future connections/launch pad to a future Hillary Presidency.
Right there, the accusation that other charities and organizations donated to the Foundation because of future influence peddling, starts to unravel.
None of these foreign people and org's could donate to a potential Hillary campaign and most already had dealings with previous US administrations and knew the Clintons despite the Foundation, not because of it.
IT MAKES NO SENSE to try and se a nefarious deal where they donate millions of dollars to charity, just so they can get Hillary's Secretary of State number and contact for favors that they couldn't even cash in!
Geezus, effing, Christ.
And even if they did donate to have access to them. BIG DEAL. It's not like the Sinaloa Cartel made a secret donation and managed to get a Skype session with Hillary. These are people who usually get some type of access to the Sec. of State sooner or later.
Aaron Strife
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Obviously I think she's genuinely invested in getting things done, but it'll also probably provide some decent insurance from lazy GOP criticisms.
Republican Congressman: "Blargh Hillary Clinton hasn't done anything for the middle class"
"What about X bill that created hundreds of jobs in your district"
"Uh, next question"
This isn't a supposition. The odious Rep. Steve King from Iowa (who supported Ted Cruz in the primary but has endorsed Trump) let it slip some weeks ago that Hillary wouldn't be the worst thing to happen to Republicans since they feel they can work with her.
Steve King said:
Unlike Obama, they don't worry about her getting all the credit and Hillary really has a talent for negotiations in person.
This Coulter tweet freakout is the most amazing thing I've ever seen. She wrote a whole book about his immigration plan! He changed it the day of her first book signing! WITH STEVE BANNON!
I don't think Trump is a plant because if he really were a plant there's no way he would carry off the pure humiliation of every Republican so effectively. It's too good to be intentional.
I don't think Trump is a plant because if he really were a plant there's no way he would carry off the pure humiliation of every Republican so effectively. It's too good to be intentional.
Flip flop schmip schmop.
Retromelon
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Have your copies yet poligaf
? eBay Huckster
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because the "Have I Mentioned I Am Sexually Active Today?" thread in OT is too entertaining, apparently
Does he do his own movie novelization?
Have your copies yet poligaf
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Trump revealing himself to be a cuck means that white nationalists aren't going to line up behind these fake Nazis in 2020 and that Vox Day will end up being the 2020 nominee instead of some flip-flopper like Curt Schilling.
Retromelon
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It's totally different!
Lol when did this happen. Did he finally reveal his cuck certificate
heh, only cucks care about immigration
Got around to listening to that 10 minute CNN Hillary interview with Anderson Cooper.
Those answers, my god. That's exactly what Hillary needs to tell everyone.
The way she handled that Clinton Foundation e-mail and then went into that e-mail reply was solid.
Of course, she whiffed on the press conference question and Anderson Cooper didn't let her go on that because that Politico article is right: the best thing for Hillary to do now is to let Trump destroy himself and only come out when necessary.
Can't wait for her to go after alt-Right later.
Those answers, my god. That's exactly what Hillary needs to tell everyone.
The way she handled that Clinton Foundation e-mail and then went into that e-mail reply was solid.
Of course, she whiffed on the press conference question and Anderson Cooper didn't let her go on that because that Politico article is right: the best thing for Hillary to do now is to let Trump destroy himself and only come out when necessary.
Can't wait for her to go after alt-Right later.
Voysa Reezun
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I swear to god this is a thing white people do.
Updated for accuracy.
The Boxcar Children liked pie with cheddar cheese on it. That's the level of whiteness you have to be at to do some shit like that. You're Benny.
Adam, I like you, but you are one weird dude. You like Ohio State and SM3DW, and you hate ice cream, pizza, beer, and Super Mario 64. Sometimes, I wonder if you're just trolling us all.
User 463088
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Have your copies yet poligaf
The fact that this dumb fuck is on the NYT best seller list and I'm whoring myself out to try and get my gay WW2 solider story in the hands of a two bit literary journal is fucking bull shit.
To be clear, I am very white. However, I don't hate pizza or Super Mario 64. The former is just meh, and the latter is overrated...but probably because I didn't play it as a child.
Beer is still gross. Ice cream was a mistake.
I also don't like bunnies of that helps slash makes it worse?
Speaking of The Boxcar Children, my mom was Gertrude Chandler Warner's assistant.
Cool (?) story.
User 463088
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Cool! I loved the Boxcar Children when I was little. I tried reading the first one to my bf's nephews, and they were like "This is boring. Why aren't their dinosaurs? Why would you want a broken cup?" And...shit, I don't know. Way too much pressure.
Eh. I'd just have a press conference sometime next week to shut them up if the campaign really thinks it's going to be an issue. I doubt they'll bring it up.
I think this has a lot less to do with Clinton than the GOP realizing that they need to do things for their base to stave off a populist uprising in the party.
Also, I think the GOP Congress hate is likely confined to the tea party faction. The GOP will work with Clinton if they think it serves their own interest. Under Obama, they did not think it served their own interest due to their own ideological beliefs and the primary system. Again, what could change things is the fractures in the GOP caused by Trump. They now might have a vested interest to back some more populist policies so long as it goes to poor white districts as well and do some sort of immigration reform.
They also might have a vested interest in primary reform, so we might see that as well (or that just might be my wishful thinking)
BlastProcessing
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The question to me is, who is responsible for the immigration switch? One would assume Conway after she told him about the numbers. Or maybe Ailes?
But wasn't the initial reporting of Bannon that he wanted Trump to double down on the blatant nationalism? So how does he feel about this?
It's just weird to me. This is basically what Manafort wanted from Trump but couldn't get.
But wasn't the initial reporting of Bannon that he wanted Trump to double down on the blatant nationalism? So how does he feel about this?
It's just weird to me. This is basically what Manafort wanted from Trump but couldn't get.
sazzy
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So tell me if I understand the current Trump-immigration situation correctly:
1. if he sticks to the hardline build-the-wall, deport-all-illegals stance, he risks the Hispanic vote
2. if he backs immigration reform, he loses the alt-right vote.
If that's true, its quite a hole he's dug up for himself.
1. if he sticks to the hardline build-the-wall, deport-all-illegals stance, he risks the Hispanic vote
2. if he backs immigration reform, he loses the alt-right vote.
If that's true, its quite a hole he's dug up for himself.
None of those really matter to him. They're details and margins and largely locked. The damage is done with Hispanics and the alt-right is relatively small in the grand scheme.
This is the same thing as his minority outreach. It's about educated whites and mainstream Republicans feeling better about him. An appeal that he's not a heartless bigot.
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