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PoliGAF 2016 |OT9| The Wrath of Khan!

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TS-08

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So Trump referenced that secret Iran cash video again, even after his campaign confirmed he had confused it with the video of the freed hostages. Guess that's another example of the disconnect between the candidate and the campaign.
 
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Wolfgunblood Garopa

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BrokenFiction said:
Here’s the transcript:

QUESTION: Are you comfortable with Donald Trump possibly having control of the nuclear arsenal?

McCAIN: [Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering.] Anyone that the people of this country choose to be the commander in chief and the President of the United States — therefore can lead this country, and will lead in a responsible fashion. Anyone who is elected president fairly in this country. And that’s the way that our democratic system works. That’s how our government works. The American people select the next president of the United States, knowing full well what the role of the commander in chief is. Therefore, I have the utmost respect for the verdict of the people.
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What a hero
 
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Oblivion

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Cybit said:
Um



This.
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Trump maybe a shitbag and terrible candidate himself, but before the flood of great polls this week, most people figured that even if Hillary won, she'd do it by narrower margins than Obama did in 2012.
 
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Cesare Borgia said:
Nope. Many of the party's biggest problems are in the south. That's the white resentment capitol, race wise, and the problem will only get bigger due to immigration+black migration back to the south. It's also the power base for the religious right, who are fighting battles that were lost on the national level years ago. Yet the GOP can't simply throw the south out, because they'd have no path to EC victory without it. But going forward the GOP has to find a way to limit the south's influence on the party. Maybe that means switching up the primary/caucus schedule.

Sooner or later republicans are going to have to realize being the party of rich white men is not a great thing, nationally. They need to re-dedicate themselves to working people and small businesses. And they need to find a way to stop making suburban white women embarrassed to admit they're conservative. The gay bashing, immigration fear mongering, transphobia, faux morality bullshit has to go. But that ties back into my first point: how do you move away from that stuff without losing the south.

Manufacturing is dead and a lot of jobs are going to be made obsolete soon. Republicans would be smart to remake their economic platform while democrats preside over economic changes and turbulence. Wait for the next recession and be ready to capitalize.
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If and when we see southern Republicans start to reform away from white nationalism, I expect Ted Cruz to be leading the way. Please stop laughing. Texas Republicans are some of the most vulnerable, and he's smart enough to see the demographic writing on the wall. Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina will be the last to fall, as is appropriate. Plus he's one of the best at discussing conservatism philosophically, so whatever moves he makes, he'd be best equipped to cloak them in the garb of purist conservative principle. I am certainly not saying he will succeed, because he sucks at reaching out beyond the base. But I am sure he will try.
 
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HylianTom said:
Don't get me wrong.. I wouldn't object one bit if we all went to mail-in ballots.

(And in a few decades, us oldsters could enthrall/bore young folks with tales of our old, primitive voting systems, lol..)
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No no, I'm right there with you as a young person.
I voted for the first time earlier this year and its a great feeling to walk up, push some buttons and vote.
 
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Iolo said:
Let's be fair, no matter what margin Hillary wins by, it will be chalked up to Trump. The grounds for this are already being laid by the right (denial of legitimacy), the far left (salt), and even by some well-meaning people. She may not be Obama, but she's survived 40 years of attacks on her character and very being, and I don't think that's weak.
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This is very, very, very true.

It will NEVER be that Hillary won. It will be that Donald Trump lost. We saw it in the primaries and we'll see it in the General again. I can venture a few guesses as to why that is...
 
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nature boy

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Fucking Twilight Zone:

Matt Viser ‏@mviser 2m2 minutes ago
People at a Trump rally hold up copies of the constitution. They are booed, and escorted from the room. This is definitely a new GOP.
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New media story: Where did you see this video?
 
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Andrin

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AnotherDayAnotherDollar said:
Where is here?

I want to be able to vote by an app on my phone and on the web. It's 2016, it's time. Put enough money on it, it can be smooth, fast, and secure. Get it done and over with.
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Sweden, sorry for not being clearer on that. It's not quite the Socialist Utopia(tm) some people make it out to be, but it's home, and it's a rather nice place to live all considered :)

I could tell you a lot of horror stories around our healthcare though (been working in the system in some way shape or form for going on 6 years soon).
 
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BrokenFiction

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andrew kaczynski ‏@BuzzFeedAndrew 42s43 seconds ago
MSNBC getting sassy with Trump lying:

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Finale Fireworker

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Grief.exe said:
Wait.

How does Maine have a pro-Trump, Republican Govenor?

Fucking midterms.
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Because Maine politics used to be the gold-standard of non-partisan elections. Because of increasingly polarizing politics, our frequent three-way elections are now easy wins for conservatives. While all the progressive people vote for two candidates, all the others vote for one.

Paul LePage was elected Governer twice this way. 61% of the state of Maine didn't vote for Paul LePage in 2012, but he won.

He is entirely at odds with the state and its population and everybody hates him and wishes he would walk back to the ocean and resume his life as sea slime. He is a humiliation to our state. He accomplishes nothing in his joke of a tenure (twice now). That's our only consolation. We have been begging him to resign for basically ever.
 
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TS-08

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I can't get over the Iran tape thing. There's a Washington Post article from around 16 hours ago with a quote from Hope Hicks confirming he was confused about the tape. Yet he still asserts he watched a tape of the cash being delivered. Just no regard for anything resembling the truth.
 
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BrokenFiction

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Sagroth said:
Politico article on Trump's shrinking electoral map:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/colorado-trump-shrinking-electoral-map-226653


What say you, Poligaf? Is Colorado for Hillary almost a given at this point?
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There is so much spin in this statement I have to sit down for a minute:

“They stopped spending money here; I don’t think they’re confident about Colorado at all. Clinton is here to shore up her base; she would not be here if she was confident,” said Trump state director Patrick Davis. “The demographics that she’s referring to are from 2008 and 2012. This is a completely different electorate. Donald Trump has completely reorganized the electorate. Her math is wrong. He is attracting people who have not voted in a general election in the last 10 years, bringing them back to politics."
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pigeon said:
Trump and Clinton both pulled ads from Colorado. You can pretty much stick a fork in it.
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BlastProcessing said:
Something seismic would have to happen for Colorado to go red at this point.
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I had figured as much(especially given how completely flimsy the State Coordinator for Trump's excuses sounded). Thanks!

Also, I completely missed the protestors getting booed for holding up pocket constitutions. I suspect that that video will be on youtube and then facebook momentarily.
 
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TS-08 said:
I can't get over the Iran tape thing. There's a Washington Post article from around 16 hours ago with a quote from Hope Hicks confirming he was confused about the tape. Yet he still asserts he watched a tape of the cash being delivered. Just no regard for anything resembling the truth.
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But, he can't admit he was wrong. About anything. Not even something like this. He has to double down on it. Repeatedly. He is never wrong. He cannot fail. He can only be failed.
 
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Grief.exe

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Sagroth said:
Politico article on Trump's shrinking electoral map:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/colorado-trump-shrinking-electoral-map-226653


What say you, Poligaf? Is Colorado for Hillary almost a given at this point?
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Colorado was never really a swing state in the first place.

Historically it has been, but the resulting demographic changes from a few years of highly educated workers swarming to the populated areas swung that electoral vote quickly.

That's why they initially thought Trump would be competitive here and they are running some right wing tea party candidates for senate. Now they realize neither of those are realistic.

I was hoping to see a Trump and Hillary rallies though, and that might not be possible.
 
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teruterubozu

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Looks like he's following a script. First time I've seen him keep checking his notes. Of course, peppered with the usual stream of consciousness.
 
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Iolo

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BlastProcessing said:
Trump is going to age more in the next 95 days than Presidents do over 8 years.
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I'm somewhat concerned about him having a heart attack. He eats terribly, doesn't exercise, and this is undoubtedly the most stress and activity he's subjected himself to in a long time.

Now I was also a little concerned about Bernie, but Bernie takes care of himself. Trump doesn't seem to.
 
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Cheebo said:
The "Drumpf" is kind of shitty to be honest. It is somewhat racist and something liberals should be above.
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Can't help it and won't try to. I installed that John Oliver chrome extension. I only see his name as Drumpf now unless it's in a picture. It's just habit to type that.
 
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