Dubbedinenglish
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Yet won't take daily security briefings......Good lord.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT1| From Russia with Love
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Yet won't take daily security briefings......Good lord.
After Mattis gets kicked out or resigns maybe we can get Hannity to be our Defense Secretary.
Bruce Springsteen
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This Hannity interview with Trump is fascinating
Vestal
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shinra-bansho
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Stray thought. If I am Trump and therefore very smart. The smartest.
I nominate Gorsuch. Not Pryor.
Because the threat of Pryor instead makes Gorsuch relatively palatable.
The Democrats should not filibuster Gorsuch - he is not who they want obviously - but he will not do much to change the court really.
In which case they quickly cede the bench seat making them look terrible after it being kept vacant for a year to spite Obama.
I don't actually think Trump thinks like this. Or at all.
But Bannon might.
I nominate Gorsuch. Not Pryor.
Because the threat of Pryor instead makes Gorsuch relatively palatable.
The Democrats should not filibuster Gorsuch - he is not who they want obviously - but he will not do much to change the court really.
In which case they quickly cede the bench seat making them look terrible after it being kept vacant for a year to spite Obama.
I don't actually think Trump thinks like this. Or at all.
But Bannon might.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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metalslimer
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When did SNL attack Barron?
"They" didn't, it was just a writer. She is also fired because of it.
Smiles and Cries
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I am so angry right now I just knew HAITIANS would be first. Fuck you Miami!
Miami caves to Trump, becomes first county to reverse sanctuary status
https://twitter.com/i/moments/824804436547510273
Miami caves to Trump, becomes first county to reverse sanctuary status
https://twitter.com/i/moments/824804436547510273
RastaMentality
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i just realized this is an actual presidential trend. didn't know. FDR's dog was really cute.
The mayor of Miami-Dade, Carlos Giménez, is a naturalized Cuban-American immigrant born in Havana.I am so angry right now I just knew HAITIANS would be first. Fuck you Miami!
Miami caves to Trump, becomes first county to reverse sanctuary status
https://twitter.com/i/moments/824804436547510273
Gotta love that eagerness to slam the door behind him.
We can argue this, but in the current climate there is no realistic way to reapportion the House, because it requires their consent.
There is a "legislature" with over a thousand people: China's National People's Congress. Setting aside the obvious "it's not a real legislature" since that is not the topic, the NPC (lol) has 2,987 people representing 1.37 billion people. Each person represents 458,654 people (more, since I rounded the population).
Even if it were an actual effective legislative body, you can't negotiate with practically 3000 other people. They meet in a freaking concert hall like this
You can't even see the dude you're opposing on the other side or something lol
It would be impossible to get anything done if even like 10% of the legislature wants to debate one bill. That's 300 people getting up to the mic to get their proper amount of time to talk and whatnot.
The side benefit is that more races mean we get the rich dudes to dump more money into elections, which is technically reinvestment in America since you can't exactly outsource campaigning. But it would probably also mean more money in politics.
I think we should have reapportionment, but I am not so sure about tagging it to the 30k population that Washington wanted, because even in the late 1700s, I don't think the founding fathers could comprehend an America with 300 million people.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I came up with a slogan
"I beseech, please impeach!"
"I beseech, please impeach!"
UberTag
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Guess with pollster is the one whose results are shared with the President while the others are decried as fake news.
Don't we want our elected officials basing their policy decisions on things they see on TV? Seems sensible to me.
Nobody let Trump watch The Walking Dead or he'll drop a nuke on Georgia.
Smiles and Cries
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ugh, even worst to be Cuban and so fucked up, he should be fighting this the hardest what a coward
One of the twitters I see congratulating Giménez is "CubanSisters4Trump".
neurosisxeno
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Double the size of it. Yes, having ~11,000 representatives is a bit unwieldy, but I Imagine we could make ~1,000 work.
I believe James Madison and Alexander Hamilton had extensive arguments supporting higher density districts, which you can find in the Federalist papers somewhere. Alternatively, Bernard Manin discusses the issue in-depth in The Principles of Representative Government.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Of course we are.
NYT article said that bus permits for this march are minuscule compared to the inauguration, much less the women's march, so we'll see if they somehow pull off a miracle for themselves in the last week.
The what
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
They won't but they will make it seem like it. Don't they have work on Fridays?
It's like the Bataan Death March, only with opposite, and with fertilized eggs.
Bonen no Max'd
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It's a pro-life demonstration.
CrimzonSamurai
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Has anyone else not gotten a dog since it became a tradition? Was their candidacy a disaster, or were they run out of DC in disgrace? Could it be a bellwether?
Also as to the March for Life I work at a restaurant in downtown DC and we aren't expected anything more than normal traffic. We were closed on inauguration for safety concerns but were open during the march on Saturday and it was a fucking busy shit show.
Harding was the worst, and even he popularized the First Pet with Laddie Boy the GOAT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laddie_Boy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laddie_Boy
neurosisxeno
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I'm sure they'll use a tight shot of like 1,000 people and justify passing restrictive anti-abortion laws. Because that's how Republicans roll.
Clinton had a dog? I thought they just had Socks.
Edit: Buddy? Never heard of him. Socks had a book!
CrimzonSamurai
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It could have been what he was supposed to talk about. It's not like he has a good track record of message discipline or staying on script.Does it look like this was correct?
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Plus Mike Pence is the star. Chances are Conway too.
Retromelon
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'Even'? Richard had that dog decades before he held the executive office. He didn't do it to fit in with some corny tradition. Hitler had dogs too, who cares. Not owning a dog says nothing about your inherent humanity except that you have less tolerance for errant excrement and vociferous barking
It was done by the Republicans the last time they had all 3 branches to hold on to electoral votes they felt they would lose as the population would increase.
Also having shittons of House reps should be fine. The House is suppposed to look more like a popular vote and vote-on-aggregate, not a quasi-Senate.
I'm sure Nixon likes his dogs but that speech was a well-played tactic of his lol.
and that's only if the dog is badly trained. Many dogs are wonderful obedient pets that know where to poop and bark only when it's appropriate.
Can someone explain why a mod keeps locking threads invoking philosophical questions or sentiment raised in an attempt to decipher and solve the current American political quagmire?
Why is more dumb news about Steve fucking Bannon any more important than people here coming together in trying to fully understand the core of the problem in an attempt to solve it?
I was just about to post this in the latest one:
But of course, the thread got locked within 5 posts.
Why is more dumb news about Steve fucking Bannon any more important than people here coming together in trying to fully understand the core of the problem in an attempt to solve it?
I was just about to post this in the latest one:
But of course, the thread got locked within 5 posts.
aspiegamer
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Based on some other locks, I think the goal is to keep more general and non-specific political discussion here. There are a lot of Trump-related threads but they'll all sparked by a news piece so they have a focus to them. PoliGAF is in Community and is open-ended.
I don't disagree.
But siphoning off philosophical discussion about it into an esoteric sub-forum thread is probably not going to help.
I understand. But much more people need to come together and figure this out.
How do we make that happen?
The other thing is: I find (or at least, used to find, maybe it's changed) PoliGAF *extremely* partisan. I apologise if that assertion is false.
Run a Discord server, maybe? Depends how the Mods are actually handling it, but it may be you could have a single thread which is an "Activism Thread", and point people to Discord in order to discuss, motivate, enact.
Discord is confusing to work. To me, anyway.
The thing is, I'm trying to get other people to be passionate and active about it, but I can't do that by myself: an "Activism" thread or whatever will receive a couple of posts then be bumped off the front page forever. I don't know how to ignite the same grassroots passion that I have, around the concept of bipartisan unity and dialogue, that will sustain that effort.
For the very reason that people of all walks feel hopeless and/or hateful -- and while the Women's March and other protests are extremely important, I fear that it does little to heal this unprecedented national divisiveness.
aspiegamer
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Not that others aren't welcomed, since the rules are pretty simple. 1) Don't be a dick to other members, and 2) hate speech is generally banned. If persons with a more conservative political ideology happen to be more inclined to fun afoul of those rules it's not really "our" problem if things end up so partisan. You can't force diversity. Liberal posters get banned for the exact same things and there are plenty of examples of that in the random OT threads of people being horrible.
Yeah, Discord isn't the most intuitive thing...
I'm sure a lot of formerly pro-Trump people are now willing to listen to voices of reason, but the issue is that those voices of reason are mostly left-leaning, and you're going to run into the polarisation of politics issue. Additionally, liberals are not going to want to budge an inch on issues like DACA, Obamacare, abortion, or the Wall. So the common-ground that exists, and that you want to build on with "bipartisan unity and dialogue", is going to be very small.
Which isn't to say that you shouldn't try, of course. I just think it may be that the current climate of polarisation has to run its course and burn the middle ground, before it gets better.
Edit: If Jeb! (as an example) had won, you would have an easier time finding middle-ground, because he was just a Republican. But Trump is so far removed from normalcy, I don't think many liberals are going to want to unify, unless that unification is to oust Trump.
A Human Becoming
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PoliGAF is definitely partisan, but I think for good reason. It's not been my impression people here villainize those who have different perspectives on the role of government and economics, but instead hold issue with bigoted social stances and abuse of the system (not holding a hearing for Meric Garland is a great example of that).
Retromelon
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If you have something to say here that liberals would not agree with, then just give facts for your reasoning and there won't be any problem I assure you.
If you come in and say something like, "Proud of my new president, glad the adults are back in charge" or "The South has no place in the future of our country" yeah, there are gonna be conflicts. This is a place to communicate and pit ideas against each other, so what's wrong with that.
If you come in and say something like, "Proud of my new president, glad the adults are back in charge" or "The South has no place in the future of our country" yeah, there are gonna be conflicts. This is a place to communicate and pit ideas against each other, so what's wrong with that.
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