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PoliGAF 2017 |OT1| From Russia with Love
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The Chinese Americans that voted for him probably thought that he would go after the Muslims, the Muslims Americans that voted for him thought he would go after the Mexicans and the Mexican Americans probably thought he would go after the other two. It is the right wing chain of selfishness.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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It was the ultimate "it's fucking nothing" order so whatever.
Randolph Freelander
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Significant chance it's also so they can say "FAKE NEWS said we would do X, but we never intended to do X. Lyin' media."
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Right, and this has been my problem with democratic officials in the last decade. They operate as if the world is perfect and voters are smart enough to research and make wise decisions. That is clearly untrue in today's climate.
I'm frantically looking to see if anything else comes up about the US Marshals refusing to follow judiciary orders, but can't find anything.
I really hope that was a misunderstanding or something... because if not, we are so fucked.
Also, is this Bannon thing for real?
Its from Occupy Democrats, so I am not sure of its authenticity.
Edit: Hah, its a banned site. Maybe take with lots of grains of salt.
I really hope that was a misunderstanding or something... because if not, we are so fucked.
Also, is this Bannon thing for real?
Its from Occupy Democrats, so I am not sure of its authenticity.
Edit: Hah, its a banned site. Maybe take with lots of grains of salt.
metalslimer
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lol Trump really invited his top two SC picks to do a reality style reveal live on television?
Could also be that, but I'm not sure they'd go through the effort of actually writing these EO's up if that was the goal.
Looks like it.
Use the talents you got, I suppose.
Poodlestrike
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Seriously. How do you deal with a presidency determined to tear down the nation? There's no system in place barring wholesale revolt in the Executive branch and I'm terrified there's too many conservatives and "just following orders" types to make it happen. We let Republicanism metastasize into a culture, and this is where it's led us.
Need to pull it to make it more objectionable.
It came up last night but most people in the know say it doesn't apply to him.
Veritigo_X
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As much as I want these leaks to be the results of kind souls trapped in working environments they don't approve of, I worry that these leaks are intentional. Could be trial balloons, but do they really care what the public thinks at this point?
Pretty much this. That LGBT EO leak got me a little shook.
It doesn't seem like they put much effort into them as it is.
Wait, what?! I just fucking can't.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Yup instead of roses he has robes.
Randolph Freelander
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Between the two potential picks, who do you think does better in the swimsuit competition?
Bonen no Max'd
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So this is an interesting question because it assumes that voting for a candidate one prefers is always a rational behavior. The problem is that the practical utility of voting is almost nonexistent since individual votes have almost no chance of mattering. The reason people vote then is because they get other benefits for voting, including the warm feeling that comes from civic engagement and supporting a candidate they liked. Especially when the cost is high, like with voter ID laws or the opportunity cost of missing, voting for a candidate you don't like is not a tantalizing prospect.
Ziltoidia 9
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Until he has the senate strong arm to where he can appoint 2!
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thepotatoman
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I suppose on a very high level, it is the voter's job to pick the best person for the job, and they fail themselves when they vote for someone they regret voting for.
But on a practical level, that road only leads to, for a lack of a better word, circlejerking. It does no one any good to complain about voters being idiots, unless you think that can somehow turn into a cultural change where uninformed voters are embarrassed into educating themselves, or you pass some sort constitutional amendment to require passing tests to vote.
Besides, Hillary can basically force any message she wants on the voters, and she chose a message of optics. Show me a TV ad from the general election that was about the issues that some trump voters are now wishing they knew about before voting.
But on a practical level, that road only leads to, for a lack of a better word, circlejerking. It does no one any good to complain about voters being idiots, unless you think that can somehow turn into a cultural change where uninformed voters are embarrassed into educating themselves, or you pass some sort constitutional amendment to require passing tests to vote.
Besides, Hillary can basically force any message she wants on the voters, and she chose a message of optics. Show me a TV ad from the general election that was about the issues that some trump voters are now wishing they knew about before voting.
It'll be Gorsuch.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
This is my guess. If they are playing a confusing long game they will do Hardiman first, pull him out and then out gorsuch in before a vote happens as a syke out
cartoon_soldier
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If it's Hardiman Dems should confirm him.
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thepotatoman
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Gorsuch sounds better going by public statements, but Hardiman is better going by (potentially flawed) ruling statistics.
So take your pick on which one you think is more likely to be representative of their actions as SCOTUS. I remember at least one liberal here really wanting Gorsuch as the lesser evil.
Dominican Power
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They would. He's a relatively middle of the road justice that both sides can agree on.
Seriously, anyone still pretending Kushner and Ivanka are good people need to wake up.
benicillin
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Haha I am getting so confused between people arguing for Gorsuch or Hardiman.
I thought about this a lot when the rhetoric and the stupid started up between China, Taiwan, and the US.
:/
balladofwindfishes
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Hardiman has no official opinion on abortion, Gorsuch is against Roe v Wade.
Got the Shakes
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Feel like this isn't surprising at all.
David Corn ‏@DavidCornDC 7m7 minutes ago
During @PressSec briefing he was passed long notes: big letters written w/ red Sharpie. Journos speculate they're from a watching Trump. 1/2
David CornVerified account
‏@DavidCornDC
One journo at @PressSec briefing says he could see & one of the notes for Spicer written in red Sharpie began: "It was Obama's fault." 2/2
https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC
David Corn ‏@DavidCornDC 7m7 minutes ago
During @PressSec briefing he was passed long notes: big letters written w/ red Sharpie. Journos speculate they're from a watching Trump. 1/2
David CornVerified account
‏@DavidCornDC
One journo at @PressSec briefing says he could see & one of the notes for Spicer written in red Sharpie began: "It was Obama's fault." 2/2
https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC
Randolph Freelander
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"We have no official position on.... one moment... Barack Obama did the same thing, really. Look it up."
I'm disappointed they weren't written in crayon
Gorsuch seems to be very pro following previous opinions, and has said that he hasn't had the opportunity to write on roe v wade before.
that being said i can't imagine they'd pick someone who was NOT against roe v wade
Smiles and Cries
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Someone from my building made the mistake of sending an email to all the residence saying they just signed a petition against the 'Muslim Ban'
now I get to find out who lives in my building and how they feel
example
I see a lot of people go there as good reasoning
now I get to find out who lives in my building and how they feel
example
I see a lot of people go there as good reasoning
Trump's aides are keeping the crayons away out of fear that he'll eat them or shove one up his nose.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Thomas is the guy who argues passionately for domestic abusers to have guns.
Alito is the type of guy who would allow a conservative president to do literally anything he wanted.
Ziltoidia 9
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On CNN's website in the ticker: Survey: 45% of GOP voters believe God helped Trump win
Pretty much. I imagine all options will have 2-3 standard conservative positions, abortion, guns, religion, but at the end of the day it depends on what case makes it in front of them and if they let their opinions twist their legal interpretation. Scalia was notoriously hypocritical on a few topics like this.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Yes, conservative white evangelicals have no connection to reality, we know this.
Even Nazis I think wouldn't like hanging out with conservative white evangelicals because of their extremism.
Smiles and Cries
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I am officially an Atheist now
Old Testamemt God is back. Back with a vengeance.
LoftyTheMetroid
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I just finished calling my senators in Arkansas for the first time. The lines were busy for both and I had to call multiple times just to leave a message. For Tom Cotton, it said his inbox was full and couldn't accept anymore messages.
Is this typical? Or is this a good sign that there are many unhappy constituents making their voices heard?
Is this typical? Or is this a good sign that there are many unhappy constituents making their voices heard?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Guys in hurricane zones, please move to the Rust Belt.
Because Trump's handling of the next hurricane is going to make W's Katrina work look masterful.
I want your vote to matter, I don't you dead.
Because Trump's handling of the next hurricane is going to make W's Katrina work look masterful.
I want your vote to matter, I don't you dead.
NYCmetsfan
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Eh. Goursuch bothers me because he's a textualist which limits executive rule making. Which has got me nervous with climate change.
tedrotheredro
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The whole reality show thing tonight is really something. Inviting two prominent judges for a Celebrity Apprentice episode.....he'll probably nominate Rudy at the last second.
It's similar to bringing all of Bill's accusers to a debate, or using a stack of papers as a prop to show you don't have extreme conflicts of interest. It's Trump University-level bullshit, and I can't believe people fall for it.
We need real, unbiased education in this country, and I have my doubts that DeVos is the one to bring it.
It's similar to bringing all of Bill's accusers to a debate, or using a stack of papers as a prop to show you don't have extreme conflicts of interest. It's Trump University-level bullshit, and I can't believe people fall for it.
We need real, unbiased education in this country, and I have my doubts that DeVos is the one to bring it.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
I think we need a textualist for this presidency.
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