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It's a sign that your senators don't give a flying fuck about being called and will never listen to that voicemail.
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NYCmetsfan
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You think the liberals wouldn't be texualist when need be?
Ziltoidia 9
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Do senators or congress people actually talk to people? I'm being serious. Asides for town hall type things.
I know that most letters that they send you, after you sent them a paper message, are just cut and paste generic responses.
I know that most letters that they send you, after you sent them a paper message, are just cut and paste generic responses.
shinra-bansho
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Someone explain why Hardiman is better without pointing to the 538 graph and not knowing what the 538 graph is showing and has tire fire Pryor closer to the centre.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
My guess is only if they are in unsafe districts/states
Well we aren't getting a liberal to replace Scalia so I guess that's a moot point.
I'm really hoping the Marshalls thing isn't true. Cause we would have to rely on congress to do anything and that's not happening.
Dominican Power
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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Mia Love is the child of undocumented immigrants.
The next campaign against her needs to have a "Mia Love would deport her mother for more power." imo.
The next campaign against her needs to have a "Mia Love would deport her mother for more power." imo.
Thomas is his own special kind of crazy that is interesting from a point of legal scholarship but which is so out there he'll never be able to build a practical consensus around anything transformative. Nobody is going to sign on to dumping 100+ years of precedent on substantive due process to reevaluate the Slaughterhouse Cases.
Alito is less jurisprudentially principled and is, at worst, an ideologue. Regardless, however, he is able to functionally move the Court to the right by pulling moderates (i.e. Kennedy) towards him. He's not the model you want to emulate.
Dominican Power
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lol @ immigration being the reason why wages are low and stagnant. It has nothing to do with the 1% hoarding all the wealth, nope.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Hey remember when brown people kept bringing up to Bernie or bust people that not voting for Hilary would be really bad for us.
yea, this is what we meant :/
yea, this is what we meant :/
Scalia's originalism went out the window when it conflicted with his poltical viewpoints or biases so it would seem to be par for the course.
nature boy
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OrangeGrayBlue
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How has his approval rating improved since the inauguration? I'm going to have an anxiety attack.
shinra-bansho
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It hasn't really.
It was 45 and net zero basically at inauguration.
Basically unchanged from beforehand. So basically we have a permanently divided nation.
Hardiman hasn't got a stated position on most of the social issues essentially (mostly by virtue of not really presiding over many hot button social issue cases), which is a risk but probably better than Pryor or Gorsuch whos positions are clear on social issues.
Hardiman is almost certainly more authoritarian than either Pryor or Gorsuch. I don't think there's a case where he hasn't come down on the side of the cops or prisons.
nature boy
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Bonen no Max'd
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This is actually I think a big failure of Democratic messagimg (or, more cynically, a resounding success of moderate Democrats, heh). Hillary didn't really rail against huge monied interests. There was some talk about "an economy that works for everyone" but no messaging about who was to blame, or that the powers that be want you to believe it was immigration so that they weren't held accountable. Immigration was defended as it should be, but there wasn't a satisfying answer to "why is there such absurd income disparity" and instead we said "America is already great".
metalslimer
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Whats the lowest Obama hit on gallup
RastaMentality
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Shit like this makes me think I probably actually do live in a liberal bubble. All this hysteria happening and he's still not in the 30s. insane.
Ziltoidia 9
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Here is his full presidency:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
TestOfTide
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I've said it before and I'll say it again:
25-30% of America is made up of Trump's Deplorables. People who are not worth our time and honestly need to fuck off.
Another 10-15% of America are MOSTLY conservative people who KNOW that Trump is bad, but are very resistant to actually admitting to bad things about GOP leadership.
Why do I make that distinction? Because that 10-15% are USUALLY unreachable, but if these people are negatively affected in a way where they KNOW it was caused by Trump, they may be wiling to turn against him.
And I think this Gallup poll is good news for us, because it shows that 11 days in Trump is already pissing off a majority of the population to the point where aren't willing to approve him less than two weeks after he takes office.
I think the problem is that if you look at the details, only 31% of people polled actually think this order makes us "more safe".
It's hard to know how many people actually LIKE the executive order without details on how many "somewhat agreed" and how many "strongly agreed".
UberTag
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Might also be an indication that they're doing the White House equivalent of taking their phone off the hook so they don't have to talk to any of their constituents.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Assuming the poll is accurate, it kinda throws the whole "economic anxiety" argument out the fucking window.
That's an interesting statistic. I suspect the more detailed questions and specific policy issues would yield higher levels of disapproval, compared to simply asking whether they approve the order.
Also, "The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online in English in all 50 states."
whyamihere
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shinra-bansho
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I mean if it's about taking the risk on the devil you don't know I guess that's ones prerogative. But I don't know where the sentiment that he's the moderate pick is coming from. Other than the 538 graph - with people not reading that JCS scores are based on nominating President (W for all three contenders) and home state Senator ideology.
There was a different metric used in an article on Merrick Garland a while back based on clerk ideology/political donations. There's a boredom project for someone. Based on who they've sent up to the SC though, which is not the same as the above I know, Pryor has fed clerks to Thomas and Alito, Gorsuch to a broader mix of Kennedy, Kagan, Alito. The latter having clerked for Kennedy.
I'm more interested in the English-only element.
whyamihere
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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People are really really racist and would probably be against letting Jews into the country if the original German Nazis were resurrected, took over Israel and promised to slaughter every Jewish person in Israel unless the Jewish people were allowed into America.
But it's mobilized like 25% of people and made them angrier than they've ever been and those people voting is all you need to dominate midterms.
But he'll need to fuck up and let a city drown (he will) or let the economy crash (he will) or show general incompetence (he will) to lose in 2020 (he will).
But it's mobilized like 25% of people and made them angrier than they've ever been and those people voting is all you need to dominate midterms.
But he'll need to fuck up and let a city drown (he will) or let the economy crash (he will) or show general incompetence (he will) to lose in 2020 (he will).
nature boy
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To me it's either 1) Conservative media is far better at persuading ignorant people(in the sense of what's going on) or 2) people DGAF about optics.
Democrats need to forget about "who we are" strategy and just focus on issues that affect people.
Shove Trumpcare down everyone's throats.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Guys, Americans were strongly in favor of letting Jews be slaughtered in camps back during WW2 instead of letting them into the nation. Every public poll from ever shows Americans hate immigrants.
This isn't a messaging thing or a conservative media brainwashing thing.
This isn't a messaging thing or a conservative media brainwashing thing.
TestOfTide
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Just so everyone understands, that poll says that only 31% of the respondents think that this EO makes us "more safe".
If it was actually 49% approving of this order, then it would show in a similar number saying that this makes us "more safe".
Meanwhile a good 41% already don't like the EO, because they also found that 41% feel that this law "sets a bad example".
They are better at infecting the ignorant with ideas, but they haven't shown to be able to convince people to LIKE being negatively affected by conservatives.
If conservative media were as effective as you are suggesting, Obama wouldn't have left office with such high approval ratings.
Randolph Freelander
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Just saw this in a tweet. http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...-High-School-student-from-Jordan-10897205.php
Texas high school kid from Jordan has been detained in Chicago for 3 days due to Trump's Muslim ban.
Jordan is not on the list of nations included.
Texas high school kid from Jordan has been detained in Chicago for 3 days due to Trump's Muslim ban.
Jordan is not on the list of nations included.
Smiles and Cries
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"There is also the fact that to date Obama deported more immigrants than any other president. He just did it more quietly. Where was the outrage?"
I need to fact check this shit anyone have a source?
here is Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/
"There is also the fact that to date Obama deported more immigrants than any other president. He just did it more quietly. Where was the outrage?"
I need to fact check this shit anyone have a source?
here is Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/
Randolph Freelander
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That one is true. http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/
benicillin
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Starting to think Trump legitimately has early dementia or something.
https://twitter.com/tommyxtopher/status/826521935987298304
https://twitter.com/tommyxtopher/status/826521935987298304
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Protesters got Trump's Milwaukee speech canceled.
Trump just wants safe spaces.
Trump just wants safe spaces.
metalslimer
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It's true he did deport more people and there was a huge outrage. He was trying to create goodwill to get an immigration law passed but it blew up in his face.
They were so close back in like 2014 to passing a bill.
They were so close back in like 2014 to passing a bill.
I just want to weep and then die. He's going to choose a Supreme Court Justice like it's fucking American Idol.
Can I go to Earth-2 now?
Randolph Freelander
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Selections for Earth-2 are at 9 PM on NBC, Trump's SCOTUS appointment is the lead-in.
Simon Cowell is executive producer.
Nice.
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Preach!
NYCmetsfan
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I think getting rid of the chevron deference is bad and worse than a few culture wars things they're losing anyway
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