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PoliGAF 2017 |OT1| From Russia with Love

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Not really, no. Party in power is always blamed for everything. And people in general don't give a shit about Senate rules.

Except no one cares about shit like that. What the voters are going to care about is whether their lives are helped or hurt by what the GOP does.

If the GOP thought they were immune from criticism, then they wouldn't so damn scared about actually repealing the ACA.

You all think that the protests happening are as powerless as the Occupy protests, but it's looking more and more like the kind of protests that happened in the 60s when people were CONSTANTLY protesting.

Or nobody is going to care about rules and instead care about the laws that are passed

You guys are sounding an awful lot like Aaron Strife to Diablos in 2010 when he was properly Diablosing.

We need to deal with the very real problem that a lot of Americans who hold a disproportionate amount of power are opposed to beliefs like "tolerance."
 
I like the "libertarians" and "socialists" who thought that Trump would be less of an interventionist than Hillary.

And now it's two weeks into his term and we're already probably heading to an invasion of Yemen.
 
Lars Larson just proved there are dumb questions. Sean Spicer didn't even know how to answer that nonsense lmao and it was irrelevant to everything going on in the press room. They shouldn't do that again.
 
Can public support even handle a war right now/soon? Do people really want pointless shit like this again after Iraq?

For Trump do an actual war he would need 67 votes in the Senate. If Trump tries some "gulf of Tonkin resolution" bullshit then all the elements will be in place for 60s style backlash, only this time it will be directed entirely at the GOP.
 

Chris R

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Good on Murkowski.

Still needs to do a WHOLE LOT MORE to get off my shitlist, but she's the best we've got since Begich got voted out :(

Murkowski got primaried once before.

It's not a stretch to say she's going to get primaried again.

That was a Tea Party fluke, when people didn't take the primary serious. Now you have people like me, who would prefer a D in the seat voting for her in the primary so the fucknut who beat her out last time has zero chance.
 
I'm fine with Perez. I don't think hostage taking is a practice that should be condoned. There will always be another hostage to take. You either support Democrats on the basis of the fact that you have a great share of common beliefs with them and believe they are the best chance to defeat Trump, or you decide that 100% purity is far more important to defeating fascism.

Appeasing them is the left-wing equivalent of that comic strip about Obama moving further right to get Republicans on board, only to see them move further to the right.
 

Ogodei

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Don't we need 2 more defectors to get past the 50-50 tie? So far we just have Collins and Murkowski, so we're still losing 51-49 -- or did I miss someone?

1 more defector. Pat Toomey, allegedly, was the last one wavering. Teachers are strong in Pennsylvania.
 
Perez is super passionate and super progressive so it would honestly be a little weird if the guy sponsored by Schumer losing gets turned into a major progressive issue.
 
You guys are sounding an awful lot like Aaron Strife to Diablos in 2010 when he was properly Diablosing.

We need to deal with the very real problem that a lot of Americans who hold a disproportionate amount of power are opposed to beliefs like "tolerance."

I wasn't here in 2010, but I don't really see how midterm losses under a Democratic president at a time of high unemployment means that Republicans will get a midterm boost from altering Senate rules of all things. The people you're responding to are right. No one cares about stuff like that.
 

Fuchsdh

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Really? You think so? I don't see any Democrats or Independents being supportive of a land war and even half of Trump's base probably wouldn't be able to stomach it.

And Iraq and Afghanistan haven't faded out of people's memories. Hell the most obvious argument the Dems can make to undercut them is point to how they say spending is out of control and hit them with every stat about how veterans are pissed on. Make them defend spending money to bomb the shit out of another country while we continue to cut veterans loose at home.
 
Macron looking like he can pull this one off.

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Fillon is a disaster (only slightly less than LePen) so this would be pretty cool.
 
Perez seems like a fine guy but Ellison has unifying potential and Perez has opportunities for advancement by kicking Hogan's ass in 2018. I won't take my ball and go home, but it would be frustrating.

Macron's numbers are super encouraging.
 
Holy shit they are not being subtle about this at all.

Seriously, this is pure propaganda

I'm not sure how effective propaganda it is when no one is really paying attention to these white house daily pressers other than people who are informed enough to care about them (aka not Trump's base) and other journalists.
 

Kai Dracon

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So if DeVos doesn't pass, will Trump immediately demand the non-compliant senators be fired?

1 more defector. Pat Toomey, allegedly, was the last one wavering. Teachers are strong in Pennsylvania.

I've read claims that Toomey's offices are getting bombarded and his actual staff are upset and angry at what's going on with Trump.
 
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