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[whyamihere]

VA is not a blue state, holy fucking shit.

If Donnelly, Sherrod, Baldwin, Casey, Kaine, Shaheen, Hassan, Klobuchar, and Franken can vote against Tillerson, so can Warner.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Also, lockstep went out the window pretty quick.

 

[Lonestar]

King stated he was going to vote yes on Rex, no on Sessions

 

[tbm24]

If Perez gets the job.

DNC

Dominican National Committee

Lets do it!



PS No CNN questions once again afaik

Perez had my vote for VP way back when, he's got mine for DNC chair. I look forward to people pretending Perez is an establishment shill for reasons other than receiving the blessing of a certain senator.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Also, lockstep went out the window pretty quick.

It's two Dems in R+35 states and Warner, King, and Coons.

That's not too many. Three people need to get on board though.

 

[TestOfTide]

Just so I'm 100% clear are "purity tests" about weeding out Democrats who are aiding Republicans or about weeding out Democrats who are aiding "Big Business"?

When I complain about purity tests, I'm complaining specifically about the Bernie Bros that think the Democrats should focus on being a hard left in economics. It's stupid because we NEED blue dogs to win back congress.

Wanting to put pressure on Democrats to be in full opposition to Trump is different. If the Justice Democrats were about that instead of mostly being about attacking Democrats for. It being left enough, I wouldn't have a problem with them.

VA is not a blue state, holy fucking shit.

It wasn't before, but it absolutely is now. Virginia is now so blue that Trump couldn't even win it in the Red Rural Wave of 2016.

Anything that Trump failed to win in 2016 is blue.

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

VA is not a blue state, holy fucking shit.

It's pretty close to it now. National vote swung 1.9% red in 2016, VA swung 1.37% blue. It'll only get more blue from here on out.

He's just spooked because they barely reelected him in 2014

 

[Box of Kittens]

Virginia is pretty close to even, but its lean is slightly blue. It certainly isn't red enough for there to be any excuse for Warner.

 

[Poodlestrike]

It's two Dems in R+35 states and Warner, King, and Coons.

That's not too many. Three people need to get on board though.

Still, I'm pretty righteously unimpressed. The R state guys are whatever, but the other three are more than the Republicans lost on most any of their votes in the past 8 years.

 

[Holmes]

VA is not a blue state, holy fucking shit.

Uh...

 

[kess]

When I complain about purity tests, I'm complaining specifically about the Bernie Bros that think the Democrats should focus on being a hard left in economics. It's stupid because we NEED blue dogs to win back congress.

Wanting to put pressure on Democrats to be in full opposition to Trump is different. If the Justice Democrats were about that instead of mostly being about attacking Democrats for. It being left enough, I wouldn't have a problem with them.

Voting for Tillerson isn't going make Republicans vote for a Democrat. At least, not the sane ones.

It's a lose-lose for everyone but Angus.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Where he is going?

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Trump has left the White House on Marine One on an unannounced trip, White House has not disclosed destination
https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/826886877378650114

 

[balladofwindfishes]

VA is not a blue state, holy fucking shit.

VA is a blue state and is going to continue to get bluer

 

[Paches]

Working in a public school district, this one is extremely important to me. Hope they can find another Republican to flip.

 

[TestOfTide]

Voting for Tillerson isn't going make Republicans vote for a Democrat. At least, not the sane ones.

It's a lose-lose for everyone but Angus.

Reread my post. I'm agreeing with calling out those that voted for Tillerson.

But when it's shit like complaining about votes for Mattis and Kelly, that's when it's stupid.

 

[Emerson]

Where he is going?

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Trump has left the White House on Marine One on an unannounced trip, White House has not disclosed destination
https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/826886877378650114

Hopefully straight into the mighty Atlantic

 

[jtb]

Two GOP defections on DeVos. Wonder who would be the best candidate to poach for a third...

 

[More_Badass]

Where he is going?

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Trump has left the White House on Marine One on an unannounced trip, White House has not disclosed destination
https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/826886877378650114

He has to meet his Russian handlers

 

[B-Dubs]

Two GOP defections on DeVos. Wonder who would be the best candidate to poach for a third...

I've heard Toomey might be our best bet.

 

[smokeymicpot]

He has to meet his Russian handlers

Would not be surprised one bit since Rex is in and Sessions will be too later.

 

[Blader]

Maine senators feeling awfully independent today!

 

[Coriolanus]

Since 2002 virginia has seen 4 years under a republican governor.
Kaine's seat has been occupied by a democrat since 2007
Warner's seat has been held by him since 2009
In presidential elections, Virginia went red in 00 and 04, and blue ever since.

So yeah, it is a mostly blue state.

couldn't find confirmation that warner wont seek reelection tho
---

In October 2014, Warner was implicated in a federal investigation of the 2014 resignation of Virginia State Senator Phillip Puckett, a Democrat. He is alleged to have "discussed the possibility of several jobs, including a federal judgeship, for the senator's daughter in an effort to dissuade him from quitting the evenly divided state Senate."[62] A Warner spokesman acknowledged that the conversation occurred, but said Warner made no "explicit" job offer[63] and that he and Puckett were simply "brainstorming".[64]

hrm. welp.

 

[SexyFish]

Where he is going?

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Trump has left the White House on Marine One on an unannounced trip, White House has not disclosed destination
https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/826886877378650114

He's probably meeting with a Colonel.


Colonel Sanders.

 

[RoKKeR]

Where he is going?

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Trump has left the White House on Marine One on an unannounced trip, White House has not disclosed destination
https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/826886877378650114

Now that Rex is in he's being summoned.

 

[whyamihere]

I've heard Toomey might be our best bet.

Nope. He just said he loves Betsy!

Call Heller, especially if you have the unfortunate luck of living in Nevada.

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

Two GOP defections on DeVos. Wonder who would be the best candidate to poach for a third...

They need Sessions to vote in the first place, otherwise they don't have the votes.

 

[B-Dubs]

Nope. He just said he loves Betsy!

Call Heller, especially if you have the unfortunate luck of living in Nevada.

Aww, goddamn it!

 

[Emerson]

They need Sessions to vote in the first place, otherwise they don't have the votes.

Sessions voted for Tillerson so there's no reason to think he won't.

 

[Chumley]

For the love of god Dems

GET ONE MORE TO GO AGAINST DeVos

just one

She is the most fucking disastrous pick on this cabinet in my opinion

Anyone who lives in a red state please make some phone calls

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

Sessions voted for Tillerson so there's no reason to think he won't.

Oh, you're right. I saw the final vote was only 99 and assumed it was Sessions like other nominees. It was McConnell who just voted Present.

edit: wait wrong vote, that was McConnell's wife for obvious reasons

 

[Emerson]

Yeah, I think Chris Coons didn't vote.

 

[IggyChooChoo]

Where he is going?

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Trump has left the White House on Marine One on an unannounced trip, White House has not disclosed destination
https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/826886877378650114

In all seriousness, how weird is this? Did Bush/Clinton/Obama do this?

 

[sunshine and gasoline]

Where he is going?

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Trump has left the White House on Marine One on an unannounced trip, White House has not disclosed destination
https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/826886877378650114

Area 51. Time for him to finally see the aliens.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

Where he is going?

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Trump has left the White House on Marine One on an unannounced trip, White House has not disclosed destination
https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/826886877378650114

Taco bowls half off at Trump tower

 

[Dierce]

It saddens me to say this but unless there is an economic collapse most people will go along with this fascism from orange mother fucker and his nazis.

 

[kirblar]

If Donnelly, Sherrod, Baldwin, Casey, Kaine, Shaheen, Hassan, Klobuchar, and Franken can vote against Tillerson, so can Warner.

Go look up how much Warner won by in his last re-election.

edit: I'll do it for everyone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Virginia,_2014

Although Warner had been consistently leading Gillespie by double-digit margins in polls before October, Gillespie nearly upset Warner on Election Day, losing by a margin of just 0.8% and 17,723 votes. Gillespie conceded the race on November 7, 2014.[1]

 

[SexyFish]

For the love of god Dems

GET ONE MORE TO GO AGAINST DeVos

just one

She is the most fucking disastrous pick on this cabinet in my opinion

Anyone who lives in a red state please make some phone calls

Been calling my Senators for Tennessee. Lines have been busy.

 

[Kusagari]

Warner is voting for more picks than people in states Trump won by 20 points.

Ridiculous.

 

[thefro]

In all seriousness, how weird is this? Did Bush/Clinton/Obama do this?

I think they've "surprised" the Troops in Iraq/Afghanistan before, but those are the only undisclosed trips I can remember (and the press pool played along).

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

Go look up how much Warner won by in his last re-election.

He won reelection in a Republican wave and isn't up until 2020, where he can ride his state's blue trend to win.

He has no excuse.

Alternatively, maybe he would benefit in the future by not being a diet Republican.

 

[Coriolanus]

Go look up how much Warner won by in his last re-election.

see:

In October 2014, Warner was implicated in a federal investigation of the 2014 resignation of Virginia State Senator Phillip Puckett, a Democrat. He is alleged to have "discussed the possibility of several jobs, including a federal judgeship, for the senator's daughter in an effort to dissuade him from quitting the evenly divided state Senate."[62] A Warner spokesman acknowledged that the conversation occurred, but said Warner made no "explicit" job offer[63] and that he and Puckett were simply "brainstorming".[64]

this blows up ONE MONTH before the election and he still took it.

Is a blue state, fam.

 

[kirblar]

Warner is voting for more picks than people in states Trump won by 20 points.

Ridiculous.

See. Above.

Alternatively, maybe he would benefit in the future by not being a diet Republican.

He is not a fucking goddamn diet Republican, he's a guy who nearly lost his seat.

NOVA is liberal. The rest of the state is not.

 

[hydragonwarrior]

President is basically free to a large array of military actions without congressional approval. Last time we declared war is WWII.

Now, there is the War Powers Act, which is meant to give Congress the ability to override the president's abilities to a degree, but it's never been tested constitutionally. I just imagine trump would ignore it anyway.

That is some scary shit. I can see him going after Iran chasing after nothing evidence (I have no confidence that he won't chase after something that isn't there i.e. Obama birth certificiate). China will be a war of tempers - the scary thing is I don't know if Trump knows how to stop so that escalation will take time at least.

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

Go look up how much Warner won by in his last re-election.

edit: I'll do it for everyone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Virginia,_2014

Maggie Hasson won by 1023 votes in 2016.

 

[jtb]

Go look up how much Warner won by in his last re-election.

edit: I'll do it for everyone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Virginia,_2014

he's not up for re-election until 2020 and 2014 was a GOP wave year. pretty inexcusable imo.

 

[smokeymicpot]

There we go.

Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla.: ”I will be joining my Republican colleagues Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski in voting ‘no' against Betsy DeVos,"

https://twitter.com/DonnaCassataAP/status/826891470129025024

Need more.

 

[Box of Kittens]

Go look up how much Warner won by in his last re-election.

edit: I'll do it for everyone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Virginia,_2014

Democrats lost 9 Senate seats that cycle. This was hardly an indication that VA is a red state. No excuse for Warner to vote for Tillerson. None.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Still, I'm pretty righteously unimpressed. The R state guys are whatever, but the other three are more than the Republicans lost on most any of their votes in the past 8 years.

I mean, >30 Republicans voted to confirm Hillary for SoS.

 

[Chumley]

There we go.

Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla.: “I will be joining my Republican colleagues Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski in voting ‘no’ against Betsy DeVos,”

https://twitter.com/DonnaCassataAP/status/826891470129025024

YEESSSSSS

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

There we go.

Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla.: “I will be joining my Republican colleagues Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski in voting ‘no’ against Betsy DeVos,”

https://twitter.com/DonnaCassataAP/status/826891470129025024

I mean, we already knew all Democrats were voting against her