Will they just realize the best move they can make is to fix the ACA issues and rebrand it as the ACA? Just stop calling it Obamacare after you fix it and your constituents won't know the difference!
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Will they just realize the best move they can make is to fix the ACA issues and rebrand it as the ACA? Just stop calling it Obamacare after you fix it and your constituents won't know the difference!
Not really. If NY and CA stay as strong blue as they are now and the current blue states don't turn more red or the swing states especially in the midwest don't turn more red NY and CA would still decide who wins the PV.
Honestly, you would need something like 3-4 elections where only Florida and Texas mattered, and then you'd probably have some serious conversations about the Electoral College. I mean, as much as there was a PV / EV split this year, right now 6/10 biggest states were all in that swing state category (FL, PA, OH, GA, NC, MI). If you have several elections where the only state that matters is Texas, then you would see the country wide frustration that would go across both parties. (Even the one that won, because they know they could be on the losing end next election)
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Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Oh man this is going to go over GREAT with those many republicans who complaned about being forced to buy insurance. That was easily the biggest complaint I heard from them before the election.
whyamihere
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I know everyone says Kellyanne is the worst.
But Paul Ryan is the worst.
But Paul Ryan is the worst.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
"get right with the law"
As long as it's their idea they won't give a fuck.
whyamihere
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okay I'm very erect
TheAbsolution
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"Get right with the law"
AKA
We ain't doing shit for them.
AKA
We ain't doing shit for them.
The fuck is this from
BreezyLimbo
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isn't that what we have now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEVtRrcg3dg
Yaaaaas Randy Rainbow! Come for the orange menace's wig!
Yaaaaas Randy Rainbow! Come for the orange menace's wig!
TheAbsolution
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Paul Ryan talking about people who've benefited from DACA.
Oh that's code for "your days are numbered"
They are just going to repeal it, rebrand it as the freedom healthcare act, then pass it again.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Why would single payer health care ever be popular if we would have to take away everyone's health care (not on Medicare and Medicaid) and raise their taxes to do it?
60% of people like their health care plan and probably 65% of voters. The short-term costs are enormous and I have seen very few articles grapple with this fact.
60% of people like their health care plan and probably 65% of voters. The short-term costs are enormous and I have seen very few articles grapple with this fact.
No they're not. At the very least the subsidies are gone forever.
thehypocrite
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The dollar killed decency and solidarity.
Or maybe is that your politicians suck at making the argument that many other advanced nations have already done.
Dominican Power
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lol @ Trump's poll numbers. What a fucking disaster. It's only going to get worse. Like he truly doesn't know what awaits him once he's in the oval office.
It's gonna take a long time for me to trust polls again
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Did the countries that passed single payer have 70% of their working-age population already insured by employers?
AntraxSuicide
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Those nations probably didn't have massive entrenched systems already in place to deal with. Health care in the US is like advocating for a different method of construction for the Empire State Building; it doesn't matter how great the replacement building will be if you can't easily get rid of the one that's sitting on the spot right now.
I'm still of the opinion that we should just expand Medicaid/Medicare to take the role of a public option. If you're on it now, nothing changes at all. If you don't qualify for it outright, then you should be able to buy into it (at good prices). And you need a mandate. It's literally impossible to do this without massive participation.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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How about this.
-The only insurance offered on the exchanges is government health insurance.
-The rich pay a lot of taxes so this public option is reasonably affordable thanks to subsides.
-We call it single payer
Would everyone be happy with this?
-The only insurance offered on the exchanges is government health insurance.
-The rich pay a lot of taxes so this public option is reasonably affordable thanks to subsides.
-We call it single payer
Would everyone be happy with this?
Tying insurance to employment was the most fucked up thing this country ever did.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Definitely not even the most fucked up thing FDR did, come on, lol.
metalslimer
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Even if the polls were massively off he'd still be one of the most unpopular presidents to ever take office
AntraxSuicide
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Yep, I think stuff like this is the way to go. You'll put some companies out of business with your pricing, but that's honestly inevitable. What's not inevitable is the total devastation of one of the largest sectors of employment in the country. We should avoid that.
Bonen no Max'd
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My goal is to some day punch him in the face.
I was about to propose this but also include a mandate to buy the public option.
whyamihere
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paul ryan dabbed.
fuck everything
fuck everything
Bonen no Max'd
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Now it's punch him in the face twice.
He dabbed after criticizing some kid for doing it?
Fuck that guy
Fuck that dab
Fuck this world
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Paul Ryan is a bit sparse on details on his Obamacare replacement website.
https://abetterhealthcareplan.com/
https://abetterhealthcareplan.com/
stock footage....stock footage everywhere.
whyamihere
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oh fuck this
You agreed with him.
AntraxSuicide
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Buy the public option itself or buy a plan that offers that level of coverage? The latter would find more success, I think.
Bonen no Max'd
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It was a joke because a public option you were obligated to buy is just single payer lol
TestOfTide
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So what would everyone's reaction be if the "boogeyman looking at your dick pics" NSA ended up being the ones that took down Trump?
That is the other issue with going single payer here - you would blow up a pretty big industry that is responsible for a lot of the economic boom (and the decrease in wage inequality between men and women). As much as I like single payer - I don't think it would work here without decades and decades of incremental movement. (also, most industries would have to rethink salaries, as this would end up being a massive potential paycut to all workers, as companies could shift their health care expenditures back into giant bonuses)
He has picked a party of rivals, so many of them don't agree with trump on so many things.
Or someone else told him who to pick, which is probably the case.
Also what the fuck is dabbing in the first place?
The national polls were only around 1-2% off, right?
AntraxSuicide
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Exactly, I honestly think single payer just won't happen, outside of a few states, for these reasons and more. It's just a destructive move for largely no good reason other than "some places have it."
I think every cause should start with the question "What's the end goal?" With healthcare, the goal should be affordable coverage for everyone. Methods to get there aren't as important, and so we should just pick the easiest method.
Retromelon
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I thought that was fire emblem x soulcalibur but its just some stupid dynasty warriors musou bullshit, fuck everything
this shin megami tensei thing looks really good
this shin megami tensei thing looks really good
StopMakingSense
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BotoxAgent
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Why would they do that if they want to enrich insurance companies and corporations--their real constituents--and not actually help people?
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
but i thought the ACA was already something made to enrich insurance companies and corporations
which is it!!!!
TestOfTide
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Here's my prediction:
This Flynn shit will lead to a snowball effect of search warrants against Trump and his "inner circle".
This is going to take down the inner circle: Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Rudy Guillianni, Michael Flynn, and Donald Trump.
This Flynn shit will lead to a snowball effect of search warrants against Trump and his "inner circle".
This is going to take down the inner circle: Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Rudy Guillianni, Michael Flynn, and Donald Trump.
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