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[soul creator]

I was just thinking the other day that someone screaming "You Lie!" at the next SOTU would more than likely be 100% accurate this time

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

I'm not sure Paul Ryan would agree with that assessment of his views, to put it lightly. Ryan views government "entitlements" as the creator of dependency. Remove it and spark the American work ethic again. Do I agree with him? No. And it's pretty ironic coming from a guy who has relied on government most of his life. Point being he's not rubbing his hands at the thought of children starving in the streets. He doesn't believe it'll happen.

Nor would I compare Trump to McConnell. McConnell operates within a status quo, has an ideology, and is the most effective leader in Washington right now IMO. Trump is driven more by personal slights and self interest than any ideological slant. He's a dog who caught a car.

I mean, that's how he might phrase it, but at the core of the Randian shit is the idea that the poor, weak, and sick should die because if they deserved to live they would be rich, strong, and healthy. He can dress it up in nice words, but ultimately that sort of fantasy comes down to the idea that those without should suffer because if they didn't deserve to suffer, they wouldn't be without. I refuse to believe that anyone would genuinely think that taking school lunches away from kids will just motivate them to work harder, unless he wants to come out in favor of repealing child labor laws?

McConnell and Trump don't act in the same way, Trump is more petty and personal, but neither really have any guiding principles. McConnell started his career out as a centrist/moderate but has given up views over time whenever they are politically expedient. He's good at what he does because he's unconcerned with ideology or goals, just power. Trump wants power too, but I think is less cunning (well, duh) and more brutish about it.

 

[RastaMentality]

Are the Dems gonna protest the speech in any way or are they just gonna not clap?

They should be rowdy and raucous. bait him into saying something awful off script.

 

[Mr.Shrugglesツ]

Bernie's really going to run again in 2020, isn't he?

Honestly, dude is going around giving speeches and holding talks as if he is president.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

I was just thinking the other day that someone screaming "You Lie!" at the next SOTU would more than likely be 100% accurate this time

Too accurate. But unless Trump says something truly outrageous, I expect democrats not to do that sort of thing. Maybe boo at worst.

 

[soul creator]

Bernie's really going to run again in 2020, isn't he?

Honestly, dude is going around giving speeches and holding talks as if he is president.

FYI: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts-tap-bernie-sanders-lead-outreach/93960822/

 

[Got the Shakes]

Here are some excerpts of the Trump speech.

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/836739150489477122

 

[NeoXChaos]

Here are some excerpts of the Trump speech.

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/836739150489477122

yup. That reads like Trump. Not saying that you can't be the best of writer as President but man his comprehension is worlds below recent one's like Obama, Bill, W, Reagan etc.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Trivial fights over silly little issues like human rights

 

[metalslimer]

God someone needs to heckle him. He would lose it

 

[LostMyNarbles]

Small thinking and trivial fights are what Trump does best.

 

[Kusagari]

Some Democrats should just scream "LIAR" the entire speech like that one dude did to Obama.

 

[B-Dubs]

Bernie's really going to run again in 2020, isn't he?

Which is the last thing we need.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Here are some excerpts of the Trump speech.

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/836739150489477122

Unfortunately for Trump, his ties to Russia are not trivial fights.

Which is the last thing we need.

I think a lot of people disagree. There is a process in place for that reason.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

I think a lot of people disagree. There is a process in place for that reason.

He'll lose again, someone better will win, and we'll have to spend 4 months of our time painfully trying to convince his fan base that they probably should not allow Trump to get a second term.

He's not magically going to become a better candidate. And 2020's competition should be a lot fiercer than Hillary.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Here are some excerpts of the Trump speech.

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/836739150489477122

Hm. This is a new, different type of poorly written. Doesn't read like Trump, but also doesn't read well.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

Here are some excerpts of the Trump speech.

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/836739150489477122

It reads like an elementary school poetry assignment.

 

[benicillin]

He's gonna be almost 80. Bernie won't run in 2020.

 

[Poodlestrike]

It reads like an elementary school poetry assignment.

Middle school poetry is generous. That's generally thematically awful more than anything else.

Think of the marvels we can achieve if we simply set free the dreams of our people, cures to illnesses that have always plagued us are not too much to hope.

This is actually painful to read just because of the grammar. It's terrible.

 

[Plinko]

"Trump's child care plan is gift to the rich"

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/28/news/economy/donald-trump-child-care/index.html

That's quite the headline

The Tax Policy Center says a couple earning $30,000 a year would get $574 back. It's a modest amount compared to the average child care bill. Stay-at-home moms or dads would not be eligible for the tax credit, but wealthier stay-at-home parents can take advantage of the deduction.

And we're done here.

God someone needs to heckle him. He would lose it

So I have to listen to republicans freak out and pretend that somebody never did the exact same thing to Obama? I think not.

 

[Slizeezyc]

Middle school poetry is generous. That's generally thematically awful more than anything else.



This is actually painful to read just because of the grammar. It's terrible.

Yeah, that sentence is all sorts of fucked.

 

[Poodlestrike]

And we're done here.



So I have to listen to republicans freak out and pretend that somebody never did the exact same thing to Obama? I think not.

m8 Republicans are going to freak out even if everyone's perfectly polite. It's the very act of resistance that agitates them, everything else is seeking an excuse. Might as well score some points while we're at it.

 

[Officerrob]

LOL, of course Scarborough is there

 

[Holmes]

Looks like Berthel (R) beat Cava (D) by about 2k votes in CT SD-32. Last November the Republican beat Cava by 33%.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Looks like Berthel (R) beat Cava (D) by about 2k votes in CT SD-32. Last November the Republican beat Cava by 33%.

What was overall turnout?

 

[Oblivion]

Looks like Berthel (R) beat Cava (D) by about 2k votes in CT SD-32. Last November the Republican beat Cava by 33%.

Why were the two elections within 4 months?

 

[whyamihere]

Looks like Berthel (R) beat Cava (D) by about 2k votes in CT SD-32. Last November the Republican beat Cava by 33%.

Going to do some math now, but it looks like in every special since Nov 8th Democrats have beaten Hillary and Trump and the margins of last major election there.

 

[Holmes]

What was overall turnout?

Don't know. These are unofficial numbers right now because the CT SoS has no special election page (stupid) but it seems Cava has conceded.

 

[Mr.Shrugglesツ]

What a bizarre sight.

 

[Holmes]

Going to do some math now, but it looks like in every special since Nov 8th Democrats have beaten Hillary and Trump and the margins of last major election there.

No math needed.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C2MVeM2K7WgqmJw5RCQbWyTo2u73CX1pI8zw_G-7BJo/htmlview#gid=0

Only one with no improvement was VA HD-85, a lean R Virginia Beach district. Could be because a few things - Kaine on the ticket, before Trump's inauguration, mediocre Democratic candidate.

 

[Sibylus]

I can't listen to 45 speak without becoming angry. International disgrace.

 

[whyamihere]

No math needed.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C2MVeM2K7WgqmJw5RCQbWyTo2u73CX1pI8zw_G-7BJo/htmlview#gid=0

Only one with no improvement was VA HD-85, a lean R Virginia Beach district. Could be because a few things - Kaine on the ticket, before Trump's inauguration, mediocre Democratic candidate.

Thank you for this. Also want to look at the last elections for each seat either way.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Trump said he'll use a torch to light the world (

Spoiler

on fire presumably

)


edit:

Did people laugh at him saying he started to drain the swamp? hahah

 

[B-Dubs]

Did Trump just call for honesty?

 

[Holmes]

No way I'm watching this asshole but I'll probably tune into the Democratic responses.

 

[B-Dubs]

No way I'm watching this asshole but I'll probably tune into the Democratic responses.

I turned it on for like 30 seconds, saw 30 seconds worth of him lying, then turned it off. The responses should just be: "Stop lying."

 

[metalslimer]

Yep, I stopped watching. Can't do anymore with the straight up lies and people cheering at them

 

[Officerrob]

Same repeal and replace bullcrap

 

[Slacker]

I missed the first 30 minutes or so. The the Big Orange Baby say anything about domestic terrorism?

 

[Officerrob]

Tim Mak‏Verified account @timkmak 2m2 minutes ago
One of the Dem lawmakers who is standing or applauding for Trump's lines the most is Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, a Hawaii Congresswoman

Of course...

 

[Cesare Borgia]

I missed the first 30 minutes or so. The the Big Orange Baby say anything about domestic terrorism?

He discussed it out the gate first.

 

[Mizerman]

Of course...

Not surprised at all.

 

[Sibylus]

Of course...

LIBERAL ICON TUXEDO GRABBER

 

[NeoXChaos]

Of course...

she should get primaried but she won't. Did Democrats know she was like this before she first ran?

 

[Tarydax]

Fucking Tulsi Gabbard keeps clapping for this moron.

Edit: Beaten

 

[RastaMentality]

Hopefully the Dem response is waaaaay more polished than the shitty Republican ones were.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Hopefully the Dem response is waaaaay more polished than the shitty Republican ones were.

 

[Officerrob]

Hopefully the Dem response is waaaaay more polished than the shitty Republican ones were.

Responses are always garbage

 

[metalslimer]

I tuned in to see Trump using a disabled person as a prop, black person as a prop, and now people who lost loved ones as props

 

[Officerrob]

Welp, VOICE is the story now