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PoliGAF 2017 |OT1| From Russia with Love

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This is just an endless parade of Trump using people to further his shitty agenda. I can't wait until this fucking clown is gone. I don't see this speech helping his approval numbers at all.
 

Dierce

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This country is lost. We can't live in a nation with inhuman bastards who voted for this piece of trash and enabled this hatred.
 

Sianos

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but i thought we were supposed to hear about some "specific policy plans" this time as per the gaf trump contingent

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~Kinggi~

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So, VOICE, the victims torture porn lineup, and the 'time to actually do shit' are the things to take away from this. Trump is serious, he is being led by batshits, and i honestly dont know if he believes any of it or not, but the rabid repubs sure seem like they do. What the fuck happened with Russia tho
 

mo60

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Dems needed someone far better than this

Does anyone have a link to the democratic response because I may watch it later? It's a good idea for democrats to get a democrat in states like Kentucky, West Virigina and etc during these reponses to trump's SOTU.

This country is lost. We can't live in a nation with inhuman bastards who voted for this piece of trash and enabled this hatred.

It's not lost forever.
 

Boke1879

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The only time people remember responses is if it's jindal emerging from the darkness or Rubio and his water.

Give a throwaway statement that no on will remember and get back to work tomorrow and energize the base.
 
If you want the Democrats to appeal to the WWC this is how you do it, honestly

Not that this response will really move the meter at all, but everything about it is clearly done with the WWC in mind
 
If you want the Democrats to appeal to the WWC this is how you do it, honestly

Not that this response will really move the meter at all, but everything about it is clearly done with the WWC in mind

I think the Bernie crowd is going to end up regretting how much they were pushing for an appeal to them if they thought it meant getting super liberals from Wyoming
 
I think the Bernie crowd is going to end up regretting how much they were pushing for an appeal to them if they thought it meant getting super liberals from Wyoming

Yeah, agreed. You don't appeal to the WWC by going to the left, you do it by going to the center. That's how it's always been.

I thought Beshear gave a really good response actually! It's kind of a shame he has no where to go in politics, but he did some really great things in Kentucky when he had the chance. A shame his successor basically got rid of all of it
 
I like how he's promising healthcare while the establishment GOP is currently trying to shove a shit sandwich through two opposing GOP factions in congress.
 

Boke1879

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The media is going to give him a pass because he read words and sounded competent. It's amazing to me how quickly give him the benefit after he strung a few sentences together.

Now wait for him to sign that muslim ban EO 2.0.
 
Yeah, agreed. You don't appeal to the WWC by going to the left, you do it by going to the center. That's how it's always been.
This is a strawman, when people talk about getting in touch with populist labor movement lefties they're talking about a specific area and kind of voter. No one thinks that Sherrod Brown is going to win in Nebraska.

Oh, and since you said *always*

 
Sigh,

I get Beshear's speech was supposed to appeal to the one demographic that doesn't get how bad Trump is.


But like, the base needs to be energized right now. Because there are some on the left that want to splinter the party.
 

Boke1879

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Sigh,

I get Beshear's speech was supposed to appeal to the one demographic that doesn't get how bad Trump is.


But like, the base needs to be energized right now. Because there are some on the left that want to splinter the party.

Fam. No one cares about the response. Tomorrow afternoon all of this quite frankly won't even be in our memories.
 

Boke1879

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Tomorrow will be all about the new travel ban

Exactly. He never gave any specifics. That's why you can't dig into what he says. The media will give him credit because he read a speech. They like that. It wasn't a rally.

But hey. When he signs that new travel ban that's all going to be the talk of the town and spark more protests.
 

Chumley

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"He became the president", Van Jones referring to that moment with the widow.

Get fucked, Van Jones. These low bar bullshit both sides "Liberals" are fucking weak.
 

Crocodile

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FWIW "Wow Trump didn't shit himself on stage when giving a speech. AMAZING!" is a place we've been before. His policies are still terrible & unpopular and Trump is still Trump. He'll do or say stupid shit within a week.
 
"He became the president", Van Jones referring to that moment with the widow.

Get fucked, Van Jones.

What is he doing? Seriously. If obama had ordered that mission it would be Benghazi 2.0 instead he gets to applaud a dead soldier for 2 mins and reset the game?
 
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