Well, if it means boosting profits by getting rid of employees and saving the US money, isn't that smart business?
Trump's cabinet members are the CEOs and stockholders. We're just the ants hoping our job isn't next on the chopping block.
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Well, if it means boosting profits by getting rid of employees and saving the US money, isn't that smart business?
Trump's cabinet members are the CEOs and stockholders. We're just the ants hoping our job isn't next on the chopping block.
nintendoman58
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Well, if it means boosting profits by getting rid of employees and saving the US money, isn't that smart business?
Trump's cabinet members are the CEOs and stockholders. We're just the ants hoping our job isn't next on the chopping block.
Not if it keeps getting more and more people mad at you it's not. At some point the bubbling active volcano regarding the general American populace is going to erupt and it's gonna take more than "blame Obama/Dems" statements to get them to calm down.
They're going to just keep overstepping, making more and more groups of people mad at them. They have no restraint, self control, or concept of politics. They've coasted entirely on racism against Obama for 8 years, and without him, these things are going to hurt them, badly.
Massive unemployment in the public sector coming.
Part of me wonders if they're allowing the GOP in the House to swoop in and "save" these programs as a PR move while still crippling them as a whole, but I don't think they have that kind of message restraint.
The damage that is about to happen to civil society in the next couple of years make me wonder if America will be able to find the plot anytime soon. One Trump is bad enough. It took America almost twenty-five years to right the ship after Andrew Jackson.
Not if it keeps getting more and more people mad at you it's not. At some point the bubbling active volcano regarding the general American populace is going to erupt and it's gonna take more than "blame Obama/Dems" statements to get them to calm down.
The people who will be affected by this were not Trump supporters anyway. Notice he hasn't started cutting things dealing with rural, blue collar workers yet. They are only going after white collar liberal ideas and jobs.
The people who will be affected by this were not Trump supporters anyway. Notice he hasn't started cutting things dealing with rural, blue collar workers yet. They are only going after white collar liberal ideas and jobs.
Those rural, blue collar workers will start worrying about what trump is doing once the economy collapses and makes things worse for them.
whyamihere
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@SteveKopack
Tom Barrack, friend of Pres-elect Trump since the 80s, tells @jaketapper that Trump "is starting to feel the weight of" becoming POTUS
"starting"
Aaron Strife
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Dude won't last through thanksgiving."starting"
Those rural dimwits don't give a fuck about jobs. All they care about is the delusion of having 'one of their own' in power, better known as a white racist idiot who represents them. Even if orange turd personally started murdering them they would still vote for that mother fucker.Those rural, blue collar workers will start worrying about what trump is doing once the economy collapses and makes things worse for them.
"starting"
I have a feeling that trump's is going to have a pretty stressful four years if he stays as president for that long.
Aaron Strife
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Not even close to a majority, but enough of them will care to tip the scales to the opposing party.Those rural dimwits don't give a fuck about jobs. All they care about is the delusion of having 'one of their own' in power, better known as a white racist idiot who represents them.
Reminder that Clinton lost ("lost") by 70k votes spread across three states that Obama won comfortably.
Not even close to a majority, but enough of them will care to tip the scales to the opposing party.
Reminder that Clinton lost ("lost") by 70k votes spread across three states that Obama won comfortably.
Landslides so big Wolf Blitzer could shave with them.
whyamihere
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Not even close to a majority, but enough of them will care to tip the scales to the opposing party.
Reminder that Clinton lost ("lost") by 70k votes spread across three states that Obama won comfortably.
It was actually 40k.
Rural America has no place in the future of this country. Even if they are not all bad, I imagine that the good ones want to get the fuck out of there and go live in urban and suburban areas.Not even close to a majority, but enough of them will care to tip the scales to the opposing party.
Reminder that Clinton lost ("lost") by 70k votes spread across three states that Obama won comfortably.
I blame them for keeping the republican party and right wing extremism alive.
It was actually 40k.
That's even more infuriating!
whyamihere
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That's even more infuriating!
Just want to make sure we all know!
Retromelon
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Rural America has no place in the future of this country. Even if they are not all bad, I imagine that the good ones want to get the fuck out of there and go live in urban and suburban areas.
I blame them for keeping the republican party and right wing extremism alive.
this is the attitude that wins elections!
I like how they resolved their NSC staffing issue by just asking the Obama-era employees to stay.
Democrats only need to speed up the urbanization process. Offer affordable housing and free education only available near cities. Make sure that living in a rural area is no longer viable.this is the attitude that wins elections!
Of course they would need to be in power first but these goals can be achieved on a state level.
Frank the Great
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Ellison seems to be a fan of bringing back the 50 state strategy in that Vox interview. He wants the DNC to focus more on down ballot candidates, and not just the presidency.
Dude seems like he knows what he's doing.
Dude seems like he knows what he's doing.
Brawndo Addict
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It was actually 40k.
For in the grimdark future there is only war.
Democrats only need to speed up the urbanization process. Offer affordable housing and free education only available near cities. Make sure that living in a rural area is no longer viable.
Of course they would need to be in power first but these goals can be achieved on a state level.
Major rural states have two senators. Let's see this logic applied to most of the rural South -- the state government in Mississippi already tries to make sure the Delta is unlivable. Try guessing why.
Aaron Strife
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Can you elaborate on this? I was thinking MI (-11k), WI (-23k) and PA (-44k). Unless there's a different path?It was actually 40k.
Wait she just needed PA and MI right? (Assuming no faithless electors) So 55k. Or are my numbers just off?
A 1929 style economic collapse would shift almost all of the rust belt states they lost back to the democrats besides maybe Ohio and Iowa..That is what we may get if trump tries to deregulate Wall Street.
He and his cabinet won't care. Because they will ensure they have the assets and investments to be kings afterwards.
I like how they resolved their NSC staffing issue by just asking the Obama-era employees to stay.
"Obama sucks at terrorism!!"
*Keeps most of this staff dedicated to fighting terrorism*
Bonen no Max'd
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That's only 268, Nevada is the only non blue wall victory.Can you elaborate on this? I was thinking MI (-11k), WI (-23k) and PA (-44k). Unless there's a different path?
Wait she just needed PA and MI right? (Assuming no faithless electors) So 55k. Or are my numbers just off?
Also saying "rural people should all die and shouldn't vote" seems like a good way to lose margins even further! Especially when suburbs can be just as racist, but also willing to vote for a tax cut no matter what!
TestOfTide
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Ellison seems to be a fan of bringing back the 50 state strategy in that Vox interview. He wants the DNC to focus more on down ballot candidates, and not just the presidency.
Dude seems like he knows what he's doing.
If that's the case then he's absolutely my pick. Only thing left for him to say is a promise to keep Rahm Emanuel types away from the DNC.
Dubbedinenglish
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Drafting an envoy or going himself to Gambia/Senegal should be the first order for the new SoS. Instead they'll be planning the lover's retreat with Putin in Iceland.
Aaron Strife
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Yeah, thought she won 236 for some reason.That's only 268, Nevada is the only non blue wall victory.
Also saying "rural people should all die and shouldn't vote" seems like a good way to lose margins even further!
But that's still a little over 70k - of course, any vote swung from Trump to Clinton is a +2, so that would cut that number in half.
Abinash117
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Ellison seems to be a fan of bringing back the 50 state strategy in that Vox interview. He wants the DNC to focus more on down ballot candidates, and not just the presidency.
Dude seems like he knows what he's doing.
How much money would that cost and where is he going to get that money from? That including funding for training and recruitment.
He wants ban corporate donations , right?
I guess he use politicians and supporters as middlemen.
Bonen no Max'd
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To add to my last post, I think tying the Democratic party to the identity of "urban people" is one of the biggest mistakes it could make. Keep the same policies, but don't trying to tie the party to "I do the urban cosmopolitan lifestyle" seems like a bad idea.
Retromelon
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Democrats only need to speed up the urbanization process. Offer affordable housing and free education only available near cities. Make sure that living in a rural area is no longer viable.
Of course they would need to be in power first but these goals can be achieved on a state level.
you realize this would only exacerbate the problems your party faces with the electoral college right. what you are advocating for is even more disproportionate distribution of democrat voters in states they already have locked down?
Aaron Strife
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Step 1 eliminate the electoral collegeyou realize this would only exacerbate the problems your party faces with the electoral college right. what you are advocating for is even more disproportionate distribution of democrat voters in states they already have locked down?
Of course this requires us to play the game just long enough.
Did anyone read the Sean Trende 4 part analysis Part 4 covers the Mid-West:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/01/19/how_trump_won_the_midwest_132834.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/01/19/how_trump_won_the_midwest_132834.html
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In some states, the city is big enough for Ds to hold on. See Minneapolis vs most of the rest of Minnesota -> HRC still won in 2016
David Byler ‏@davidbylerRCP 6h6 hours ago
The basic moral of the story here is simple - Democrats lots big w/rural whites in the South a while ago. Now it's happening elsewhere
David Byler ‏@davidbylerRCP 6h6 hours ago
And the flipside of this - D strength in the cities - helps them in the West. But it wasn't enough to give Clinton an Electoral College win
David Byler ‏@davidbylerRCP 6h6 hours ago
Final thing - this sums up much of the story. HRC good in mega cities, but really suffered in rural and non-city USA -> President Trump.
It was actually 40k.
This is the most infuriating thing.
EDIT: If it's only 40k, surely simple death rate means it's in the bag in 2020? Surely?
Bonen no Max'd
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Like sure if the US had a PR unicameral parliament you could run on being the urban liberal party, but we don't and even if we did the Democrats wouldn't exist and instead we'd have parties for urban liberalism, black identity, and a social democracy party.
But we don't have a decent government design so instead we should maybe not tell anyone who doesn't live in a city to fuck off because they aren't cosmopolitan enough.
But we don't have a decent government design so instead we should maybe not tell anyone who doesn't live in a city to fuck off because they aren't cosmopolitan enough.
you realize this would only exacerbate the problems your party faces with the electoral college right. what you are advocating for is even more disproportionate distribution of democrat voters in states they already have locked down?
We would only need to focus on a few states, we can use the electoral college to ur advantage. Doesn't matter if we end up winning the presidential elections by a minimal margin. The goal is to make it impossible for republicans to ever win the presidential election in the future.
We would only need to focus on a few states, we can use the electoral college to ur advantage. Doesn't matter if we end up winning the presidential elections by a minimal margin. The goal is to make it impossible for republicans to ever win the presidential election in the future.
Needing only to "focus on a few states" is the same thing that the DNC fucked up on. Telling people that they're living in the wrong place because of an accident of birth or class or work ethic is the road to electoral destruction.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This is the most infuriating thing.
EDIT: If it's only 40k, surely simple death rate means it's in the bag in 2020? Surely?
No guarantee with expanded voting rights restrictions.
No guarantee with expanded voting rights restrictions.
I thought of this when I hit reply, sad reality that this probably creates a 1-2% headwind at least.
Bonen no Max'd
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Don't forgrt that margins can always get worse.This is the most infuriating thing.
EDIT: If it's only 40k, surely simple death rate means it's in the bag in 2020? Surely?
Don't forgrt that margins can always get worse.
you are right, Trump could just drop the guise and go full KKK.
That is because they focused on the wrong states like Arizona.Needing only to "focus on a few states" is the same thing that the DNC fucked up on. Telling people that they're living in the wrong place because of an accident of birth or class or work ethic is the road to electoral destruction.
you are right, Trump could just drop the guise and go full KKK.
If trump went full KKK he will lose the next election.
Bonen no Max'd
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Focusing on Arizona is the strategy you're advocating because the Rust Belt losses came from defections of traditional Democratic rural counties.That is because they focused on the wrong states like Arizona.
Edit: or worse margins in light Republican counties.
If trump went full KKK he will lose the next election.
Onion man.gif.
I mean, I would have believed you before 100%. My confidence in that is only 60-70% now. Non college educated whites would vote R, whatever.
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The best possible choice for VP.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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That is because they focused on the wrong states like Arizona.
They focused most of their resources on Penn and Florida.
Campaigns don't matter.
Why do we keep complaining about the minor Arizona spending and not the over the top massive Ohio spending?
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