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PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why

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Or they just will move to another state making it redder.

There are limits to where people can move. This is a big reason CA and NY are good targets for these things; they're expensive to live in. It's actually more feasible if you're an average Arizonan to just vote someone in to quickly approve legislation similar to CA (and Bonen can point out since he mentioned working on this) and maybe even get CA to join up with your network.

In regards to Manchin:

On the congressional level I'm all for running who you need to run to win seats as long as they won't obstruct a progressive agenda, even if they don't support it. As long as Manchin can be counted on as the vote that breaks a filibuster aimed at, say, a new voting rights act I couldn't care less if he couldn't be counted on to vote for it. In a perfect world every democratic congressperson could be counted on for both, but this world isn't perfect.

In the executive branches and in the state houses, however, this is not the case.

I actually thought it'd be the other way around. Without pork barrel spending (which should probably just come back), national elections don't end up mattering to your constituents specifically. So I can see the argument that if you're an underprivileged leftist in WV you still don't need to compromise on a national candidate because even if they win, you don't see much reward. But with something like a governor, there are things like the Medicaid expansion on the line that could change for you within the week of the election if the compromise candidate wins.

Like, if I had to pick an office to win here in MS, but the person had to be Manchin-y, I'd definitely go governor. That office alone would mean healthcare for thousands of Mississippians, most of whom are incredibly impoverished people of color. Whereas if I got to kick out Wicker's dumb ass, I as a Mississippian don't really see much from that quickly, if ever.
 

Ernest

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If Gorsuch votes with the rest of the court, expect some serious salt.
Oh man, you know something like that is bound to happen. Maybe not this, but something that Trump wants passed, but is in every way unconstitutional. So he'll call Gorsuch - and everyone knows full well that Trump thinks Gorsuch is in he pocket because he appointed him. But Gorsuch knows full well that his tenure as a Supreme Court Justice will last far, FAR longer than Trump's presidency, so he won't want to fuck up his legacy by doing an idiotic thing Trump wants.

You know what, I would bet anything that Trump would flat out call or meet with Gorsuch to "convince" him to vote a certain way. He sees him as "his guy", and probably counts on him to rule any which way Trump wants. It'll be delicious when Trump doesn't get his way - especially if it comes out that he tried to influence a sitting judge - and you know he's fully capable of doing that because he's so fucking dumb and corrupt.
 

sc0la

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There is a joke in here about the DIMMS not having ECC and nominating Hillary again in 2020 and forgetting to turn out for midterms.
 
It'll be delicious when Trump doesn't get his way - especially if it comes out that he tried to influence a sitting judge - and you know he's fully capable of doing that because he's so fucking dumb and corrupt.
"What do you mean I can't fire supreme court justice? I appointed him didn't I?"
 
Wouldn't be surprised if some assistant walks in on him like this every time he has to go on. Either that or constant games of Russian Roulette.

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Ok, guys, lol, on the daily show tonight Al Franken revealed that one time, Joe Manchin's secret santa gift was two pieces of very hard coal carved into the shape of a donkey and an elephant.
 

benjipwns

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Also, Lou Dobbs is actually a long form performance art piece by Andy Kaufman. He drops subtle hints every so often like the twitter polls.
 

FyreWulff

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WaPo :(

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Actual Winner:

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wapo has the winner on their actual front page. I'm pretty sure Twitter just was just doing it's weird thumbnail choosing algo there.

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she's also the first person you see in the article, but it's also the preview for the video to play so their thumbnail bot probably skips it.
 
Hopefully, Dems don't make 2020 a referendum on Paris Agreement.

Dems should be going all in right now on how AHCA is a tax cut paid for by people's healthcare and Medicaid dollars.
 

Ernest

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Yeah horrible job's report. Wonder what the reaction will be from Trump's administration when they were so happy to take credit when everything was looking good. I think average 3 months job increase is at 120k around there.
If it's good, he'll take credit (even if it happened under Obama), if it's bad, he blame someone else. His script is so obvious by now.

He's so clearly just winging it. There is no thought or preparation happening. Just think for a moment. If you had that job, for whatever reason, and you had no background in policy or government... wouldn't you be either devouring material and reading or taking as many high-level meetings with actual experts in every field 24/7 to learn and be as informed as humanly possible because the actual weight of the world would be on your shoulders? Of course you would! But he doesn't give a fuck. He just plays golf. A lot.
 
At this point, Trump is basically just making his own oppo.

Yesterday's circus will dominate the news through at least today, and now with Trump strong arming the SC, that'll be even more news.
 
I just saw the May job numbers (138K) and came in here to comment that there's not much to read into before a revision next month, but ouch at April.

Weird report. Unemployment at 4.3% and yet the labor pool shrinks and no wage growth. These three things should not go together. I guess it means there was some productivity growth somewhere though.
 
Does that mean 66k fewer jobs for April as previously reported?

Yes, revised data shows there were far fewer jobs created in April than thought. These numbers will be further revised as time goes by though. Probably for another year or two. Counting job creation in an economy the size of the US is really, really hard.
 
That probably means the IC is pretty happy with Mueller's work, and now don't want to get in the way.

Three scenarios:

Mueller is doing good, has found good things and nobody wants to interfere with it.
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Everybody is waiting on Comey testimony to see how things go.
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This is all there is to see. Nothing more.
OR
Trump really did find the leakers
 

Zolo

Member
Three scenarios:

Mueller is doing good, has found good things and nobody wants to interfere with it.
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Everybody is waiting on Comey testimony to see how things go.
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This is all there is to see. Nothing more.
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Trump really did find the leakers

That's four scenarios.
 
Who is saying it dried up lol. We're getting stuff that is filling in the picture every day. This week the timeline of events is much more clear than last week. Plus we have to think the leaks are not current, but old stuff from the investigation coming out.
 
Who is saying it dried up lol. We're getting stuff that is filling in the picture every day. This week the timeline of events is much more clear than last week. Plus we have to think the leaks are not current, but old stuff from the investigation coming out.

Yeah for real. We literally got news this week that they're looking into the all hands on deck meeting that Trump and his cronies had with the Russians at the GOP fundraiser.
 

tbm24

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What's with this news of the WH trying to block Comey from testifying? They're shook as fuck.

Like everything with Trump, executive privilege wouldn't survive in Court because Trump never shuts the fuck up about anything. His twitter account will forever be his downfall.
 
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