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PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why

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tbm24

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I know Obama's desire to try and work across with Republicans wasn't always the best idea. But it's really disheartening that Trump and Co seem to only ever make decisions depending on whether or not he'll be able to coax an applause from the audience at a Rally than what's best for the people. I'm likely naive, but I always held that the president is elected to make decisions that's best for the country as opposed to what nets you the most political capital. I can appreciate Obama not being fully beholden to that, even if the net gain was little to none on most occasions.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Did we talk about this?

Natasha Bertrand‏Verified account @NatashaBertrand

Wow. @JoeNBC says Steve Bannon bragged about having damaging info about Kushner days before Kushner meeting w/ Gorkov leaked to the NYT.
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Host Samurai said:
What's with this news of the WH trying to block Comey from testifying? They're shook as fuck.
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The IC would revolt. The leaks coming out after that would be like a dam exploding.
 
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tedrotheredro

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Plinko said:
Did we talk about this?
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I don't even know what to think. It's strange to consider a WH advisor would perpetuate the Russian story, but Bannon's all about the fourth turning or whatever the fuck. Imagine if he's leaking the majority of the Russia stuff.

I just don't see how Trump wants that. Maybe he thinks his support would dive if Bannon was let go and turned against him?

Or maybe I'm overthinking their chess moves and Bannon's just an antisemite who hates Jared.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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tedrotheredro said:
I don't even know what to think. It's strange to consider a WH advisor would perpetuate the Russian story, but Bannon's all about the fourth turning or whatever the fuck. Imagine if he's leaking the majority of the Russia stuff.

I just don't see how Trump wants that. Maybe he thinks his support would dive if Bannon was let go and turned against him?

Or maybe I'm overthinking their chess moves and Bannon's just an antisemite who hates Jared.
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Man, if the first confirmed leaker from the WH is Bannon, it will be delicious to see the fallout.
 
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AntraxSuicide

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tedrotheredro said:
I don't even know what to think. It's strange to consider a WH advisor would perpetuate the Russian story, but Bannon's all about the fourth turning or whatever the fuck. Imagine if he's leaking the majority of the Russia stuff.

I just don't see how Trump wants that. Maybe he thinks his support would dive if Bannon was let go and turned against him?

Or maybe I'm overthinking their chess moves and Bannon's just an antisemite who hates Jared.
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Normally it would be strange but none of these people have any loyalty to each other and they're doing nothing to change that. I mentioned this every now and then before the election but him winning was always going to lead to this nonsense. No one around him is really tied to him or each other by any common thread. It's all competing ideology, competing goals, and assholes.
 
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Host Samurai

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AntraxSuicide said:
Normally it would be strange but none of these people have any loyalty to each other and they're doing nothing to change that. I mentioned this every now and then before the election but him winning was always going to lead to this nonsense. No one around him is really tied to him or each other by any common thread. It's all competing ideology, competing goals, and assholes.
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The ego's in this administration must be off the charts, which is expected when there are like 10 oligarchs in there.
 
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AntraxSuicide

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Host Samurai said:
The ego's in this administration must be off the charts, which is expected when there are like 10 oligarchs in there.
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For sure. It's all about their own brands; Bannon doesn't care about the GOP, he cares about his following. Kushner doesn't care about the GOP, he cares about his business. Ivanka doesn't care about the GOP, she cares about her business. Etc....

None of them care about an ideology. They don't have actual beliefs.
 
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jmdajr

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DrForester said:
Trump's commerce secretary just said Trump's an environmentalist.
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smokeymicpot

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
BoogieWoogie said:
Because Trump makes the absolute worst decision in every possible situation. I'm shocked it hasn't happened yet.
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Give it till Wednesday that is when it will sadly happen.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-flynn-turkey-exclusive-idUSKBN18T276

Exclusive: Special counsel Mueller to probe ex-Trump aide Flynn's Turkey ties

Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating possible ties between the Trump election campaign and Russia, is expanding his probe to include a grand jury investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, three sources told Reuters.

The move means Mueller’s politically charged inquiry will now look into Flynn’s paid work as a lobbyist for a Turkish businessman in 2016, in addition to contacts between Russian officials and Flynn and other Trump associates during and after the Nov. 8 presidential election.

Federal prosecutors in Virginia are investigating a deal between Flynn and Turkish businessman Ekim Alptekin as part of a grand jury criminal probe, according to a subpoena seen by Reuters.
 
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Zolo

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Host Samurai said:
What's with this news of the WH trying to block Comey from testifying? They're shook as fuck.
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It seemed like a non-committal "The president will make the decision" from an aide. That said, they wanted to stop the Yates testimony as well. Even if it's not expected they'll say anything unexpected, they still want to control the narrative. Of course, blocking Comey from speaking wouldn't do that.
 
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Deleted member 231381

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Mentalist? That's an insult I've not heard in many years! Makes me want to watch reruns of Only Fools and Horses.
 
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daedalius

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What executive privilege would Trump invoke exactly to stop Comey from testifying to the Senate?

I wouldn't think he would have any power to stop something like that.
 
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Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
AntraxSuicide said:
For sure. It's all about their own brands; Bannon doesn't care about the GOP, he cares about his following. Kushner doesn't care about the GOP, he cares about his business. Ivanka doesn't care about the GOP, she cares about her business. Etc....

None of them care about an ideology. They don't have actual beliefs.
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BlastProcessing

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smokeymicpot said:
Give it till Wednesday that is when it will sadly happen.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-flynn-turkey-exclusive-idUSKBN18T276

Exclusive: Special counsel Mueller to probe ex-Trump aide Flynn's Turkey ties

Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating possible ties between the Trump election campaign and Russia, is expanding his probe to include a grand jury investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, three sources told Reuters.

The move means Mueller’s politically charged inquiry will now look into Flynn’s paid work as a lobbyist for a Turkish businessman in 2016, in addition to contacts between Russian officials and Flynn and other Trump associates during and after the Nov. 8 presidential election.

Federal prosecutors in Virginia are investigating a deal between Flynn and Turkish businessman Ekim Alptekin as part of a grand jury criminal probe, according to a subpoena seen by Reuters.
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Ahh, two of my favorite words in the english language :Grand Jury".

This is actually a big fucking deal. This is a significant expansion in the investigation. It's why people fear special prosecutors, they always have a nasty habit of expanding investigations.
 
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cartoon_soldier

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Jill Stein is now officially the Ralph Nader of 2016.

Stein votes/Trump margin:
MI: 51,463/10,704
PA: 49,678/46,765
WI: 31,006/22,177
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I hope green party voters feel good about how Trump is better for the environment than Clinton.
 
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nature boy

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Wisconsin Hopeful Seeks to Tie Speaker Paul Ryan to Donald Trump


WASHINGTON—House Speaker Paul Ryan, for the first time since entering Congress, may next year face a Democratic opponent who has a professionally managed campaign and the prospect of significant financial backing.

Randy Bryce, a local labor activist, is preparing a campaign launch in the coming weeks to challenge the Wisconsin House seat and has enlisted staff members including Bill Hyers, a Barack Obama alumnus who ran upset campaigns for New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D., N.Y.).

In an interview, Mr. Bryce said he would seek to tether Mr. Ryan to President Donald Trump and argue that their effort to dismantle large parts of the Affordable Care Act has hurt working people in the district.

“They’re handcuffed together,” Mr. Bryce said. “People are having buyer’s remorse and they’re seeing what’s going on. Trump made a lot of promises that I can see why working people would support, but now they’re waking up.”

Since he was first elected in 1998, Mr. Ryan has only once received less than 60% of the vote in his district, which covers parts of six counties in Wisconsin’s southeast corner. Mr. Ryan, who has built an image as an economic-policy specialist, is also one of the party’s most prolific fundraisers and has nearly $10 million in his campaign account. And only one House speaker since the Civil War has been turned out by his own constituents; Democratic Speaker Tom Foley lost his seat in the 1994 GOP wave election.

Mr. Bryce’s challenge represents a change in the Democratic Party’s thinking about what districts to consider competitive in 2018.

“It’s a winnable district and Paul Ryan has gotten away with being a nice local person that they like,” Mr. Hyers said. “This is the first time where he’s really going to have the face the voters with the fact that he’s gone Washington.”

An Army veteran who took some college courses but didn’t graduate, Mr. Bryce, 52 years old, is a single parent who survived testicular cancer. He conducted an interview on Thursday, in his pronounced Wisconsin accent, during a break from a project in which he is working to build a parking deck at the Milwaukee Veterans Affairs hospital. His Twitter handle is @ironstache, for his bushy facial hair.

“I don’t think it takes somebody with a law degree or a doctorate to listen to their neighbors,” he said.

A Bernie Sanders surrogate in Wisconsin during last year’s presidential primary campaign, Mr. Bryce lost his two previous runs for office, a 2012 primary for state assembly and 2014 state senate race. His chance to be competitive now, Democrats say, lies in riding what they hope will be a national Democratic wave that sweeps away the 24-seat Republican majority in the House—and the opportunity to raise millions from party supporters by running against the House speaker.

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Doesn't sound like a serious attempt
 
Spladam

Spladam

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Wilsongt said:
RIP Ossoff.

Keeping my fingers crossed.
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His numbers look good.
kess said:
If Gorsuch votes with the rest of the court, expect some serious salt.
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This would be EPIC. I don't use that word much.
JetBlackPanda said:
What is that gif from?
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I had to look it up too, she's the police chief in this season of Fargo.
BlastProcessing said:
He was using the British definition of mentalist.

Trump is an enviro mentalist.
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Clever, He's environ mental
 
smokeymicpot

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
BoogieWoogie said:
An open hearing with Page??? Holy shit that's going to be something.
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Never mind he backtracked on it.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/24/carter-page-house-russia-hearing-date-238784

Carter Page appears to have jumped the gun when he told ABC News he would appear June 6 before the House panel investigating Russia’s meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

President Donald Trump’s former campaign foreign policy adviser backtracked in response to questions from POLITICO, saying the hearing date was not yet finalized. Members of the House Intelligence Committee also declined to say that a firm date had been set.

“Details still being worked out,” Page said of his testimony next month. “We’ll see.”
 
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BoogieWoogie

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smokeymicpot said:
Never mind he backtracked on it.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/24/carter-page-house-russia-hearing-date-238784

Carter Page appears to have jumped the gun when he told ABC News he would appear June 6 before the House panel investigating Russia’s meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

President Donald Trump’s former campaign foreign policy adviser backtracked in response to questions from POLITICO, saying the hearing date was not yet finalized. Members of the House Intelligence Committee also declined to say that a firm date had been set.

“Details still being worked out,” Page said of his testimony next month. “We’ll see.”
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Too bad. Think I'll just skip Wednesday's at that seems to be "unmasking" day.
 
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Aaron Strife

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Speaking of Gorsuch, I was just reminded of how Trump was hinting at another SCOTUS retirement coming up soon and it turned out he'd made those comments to try and nudge Ginsburg into stepping down.

Like Christ, know your audience dude.
 
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BlastProcessing

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BoogieWoogie said:
Too bad. Think I'll just skip Wednesday's at that seems to be "unmasking" day.
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I think Wednesday will be eventful. Rosenstein is going to provide a timeline for Comey's firing. Coates and Rogers have questions to answer about pressure Tump put on them and McCabe can speak to the existence of Comey's memos.

It's a lot of important groundwork for Comey's testimony.
 
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SatelliteOfLove

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Thing is with his talk on Comey vs his talk on Yates is, he wasnt as panicky then. Im just sayin.

Ignatz Mouse said:
Man, if the first confirmed leaker from the WH is Bannon, it will be delicious to see the fallout.
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God that would be grand. This weeks fuckery (which i sadly predicted right) has his flu-riddled fingerprints all over them. Him and Sessions are just as key as exposing the puppet strings.
 
smokeymicpot

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
BlastProcessing said:
I think Wednesday will be eventful. Rosenstein is going to provide a timeline for Comey's firing. Coates and Rogers have questions to answer about pressure Tump put on them and McCabe can speak to the existence of Comey's memos.

It's a lot of important groundwork for Comey's testimony.
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Yeah gonna be like a episode of a hit drama it will leave with a cliffhanger for Comey.
 
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