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PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why

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kirblar

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Tyler Cowen and the rest of the people on the economic right are praising the GOP for ramming the AHCA through the House before the CBO score came out so that people didn't know it was bad.

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2017/05/show-far-continuing-series-3.html

TFW you hate poor people more than you like government transparency and you call yourself a libertarian.
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So, this is his opinion on tactics. It's a positive, not normative, view.

I completely disagree with it, but again, this isn't his personal policy preferences.

see:
In my view, the Republicans have had a very weak hand to play on health care (not enough good ideas!) but over the last week they have played it brilliantly (which is not the same thing as having good policies).
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broz0rs

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Man, the fake news trolls that plagued Twitter during the US presidential elections are back in full force on Twitter for the French elections. Its fascinating how bot-like accounts with 20k+ tweets can also reply to so many reply tweets.
 
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Bam Bam Baklava

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broz0rs said:
Man, the fake news trolls that plagued Twitter during the US presidential elections are back in full force on Twitter for the French elections. Its fascinating how bot-like accounts with 20k+ tweets can also reply to so many reply tweets.
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It's even more fascinating that Twitter seems to not realize just how important a role they are playing in the world and not taking it more seriously.
 
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Bonen no Max'd

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Oblivion said:
I haven't been following the French elections closely, but how is this Macron dude on policy? All I'm familiar with is that shitbag La Pen is running against him.
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Well, at least he isn't a fascist and won't leave the EU. That's about what he's got going for him, unless you're anti-labor, in which there's a few things to get excited about.
 
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Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
The Onion with their 'Fuck You' to House Republicans:

Here are the The Onion’s tips for not condemning millions of Americans to sickness and death:
  • Read the thing you’re voting on, particularly if you’ve heard someone mention that it might end up killing millions of people.
  • Do your research: Find out if any of the people you are paid to represent are human beings who use healthcare.
  • Try to better understand the concerns of your constituents by dying a slow, painful death while bankrupting your entire family.
  • See if you can recall any reason besides an all-consuming sense of self-importance and knee-jerk lust for personal financial gain that might once have motivated you to seek public office.
  • Check whether or not a single medical professional, patient advocate, economist, or literally anyone familiar with the subject in question supports the legislation you’re about to vote in favor of.
  • If respect for human life doesn’t interest you, try to remember that sick and indigent people are, at this point, still legally allowed to vote.
  • Acknowledge that serving in public office sometimes means putting aside your personal beliefs about how all poor people deserve to die in a wet ditch.
  • Consider going through the millions of years of natural selection and incremental evolutionary advancements necessary to develop a rudimentary backbone.
  • Find the nearest mirror; look in the mirror; check to see if you are a greasy, entitled fuck.
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http://www.theonion.com/infographic/tips-not-condemning-millions-americans-sickness-an-55935
 
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NeoXChaos

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so there was some Carter discussion on twitter. Apparently when he was elected:

Democrats had a veto-proof majority of 292-143 in the House
62 U.S Senate Seats
37 Governorships
36 states where they controlled both the State House and State Senate.

Granted a lot of it was concentrated in the South but wow. Did he do anything with all that power?
 
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Bonen no Max'd

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NeoXChaos said:
so there was some Carter discussion on twitter. Apparently when he was elected:

Democrats had a veto-proof majority of 292-143 in the House
62 U.S Senate Seats
37 Governorships
36 states where they controlled both the State House and State Senate.

Granted a lot of it was concentrated in the South but wow. Did he do anything with all that power?
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Deregulated finance and airlines
 
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kirblar

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NeoXChaos said:
so there was some Carter discussion on twitter. Apparently when he was elected:

Democrats had a veto-proof majority of 292-143 in the House
62 U.S Senate Seats
37 Governorships
36 states where they controlled both the State House and State Senate.

Granted a lot of it was concentrated in the South but wow. Did he do anything with all that power?
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Completely blew it because he had absolutely no idea how to govern.

4 years later? Reagan.
 
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Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
NeoXChaos said:
so there was some Carter discussion on twitter. Apparently when he was elected:

Democrats had a veto-proof majority of 292-143 in the House
62 U.S Senate Seats
37 Governorships
36 states where they controlled both the State House and State Senate.

Granted a lot of it was concentrated in the South but wow. Did he do anything with all that power?
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He was dumb enough to become president during a major oil crisis.
 
smokeymicpot

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
https://apnews.com/b109774705594ae8...tion-raised-flags-about-Flynn-Russia-contacts

The officials said, however, they did not withhold information.

The outgoing White House also became concerned about the Trump team’s handling of classified information. After learning that highly sensitive documents from a secure room at the transition’s Washington headquarters were being copied and removed from the facility, Obama’s national security team decided to only allow the transition officials to view some information at the White House, including documents on the government’s contingency plans for crises.

Some White House advisers now privately concede that the administration moved too slowly during the election to publicly blame Russia for the hack and explore possible ties to the Trump campaign. Others say it was only after the election, once Obama ordered a comprehensive review of the election interference, that the full scope of Russia’s interference and potential Trump ties become clearer.
 
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Autodidact

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kirblar said:
Completely blew it because he had absolutely no idea how to govern.

4 years later? Reagan.
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Yep. He pissed off Congress from the outset with his crusade against pork barrel spending. It's wasteful, yes, but it used to be how you schmoozed reps/sens. and made them amenable to your agenda.

Ironically, his administration also faced a protracted healthcare battle. If I recall my history lessons correctly, he veered to the right on healthcare after promising something more in line with what Ted Kennedy wanted.
 
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CrimzonSamurai

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I've always thought bringing back pork-barrel would help solve hyper-partisanship. If you can actually serve the interests of your constituency over others in you caucus you have less incentive to always toe the party line.
 
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kirblar

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Autodidact said:
Yep. He pissed off Congress from the outset with his crusade against pork barrel spending. It's wasteful, yes, but it used to be how you schmoozed reps/sens. and made them amenable to your agenda.

Ironically, his administration also faced a protracted healthcare battle. If I recall my history lessons correctly, he veered to the right on healthcare after promising something more in line with what Ted Kennedy wanted.
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Been pointed out that the curb on pork spending has led to an increase in polarization since buying off individual reps via compromise was real important for greasing the wheels!
 
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B-Dubs

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kirblar said:
Been pointed out that the curb on pork spending has led to an increase in polarization since buying off individual reps via compromise was real important for greasing the wheels!
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Unfortunately whoever tries to bring it back isn't going to last very long.
 
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Abinash117

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kirblar said:
Completely blew it because he had absolutely no idea how to govern.

4 years later? Reagan.
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Hmm...
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pigeon

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kirblar said:
Completely blew it because he had absolutely no idea how to govern.

4 years later? Reagan.
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It's less that he couldn't govern and more that he wasn't that aligned with the Democratic Party and the party itself was fracturing along interest group lines.

Which is even more thoughtful face emoji, really.
 
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Bonen no Max'd

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pigeon said:
It's less that he couldn't govern and more that he wasn't that aligned with the Democratic Party and the party itself was fracturing along interest group lines.

Which is even more thoughtful face emoji, really.
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Ah, but he signalled the direction the party was heading!

His presidency definitely laid the groundwork for the DLC.
 
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Roland_Gunner

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Bonen no Max'd said:
Ah, but he signalled the direction the party was heading!

His presidency definitely laid the groundwork for the DLC.
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Trying to draw a line from Carter to the DLC is very tough to do. They just don't line up except that most of the DLC leaders were from the south. Its much more accurate to view them as a response to the failed retro - New Deal campaign of Mondale.
 
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Zolo

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They have to do it by late May to get it in by reconciliation anyway right? Unless they can extend the deadline on it I guess.
 
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CrimzonSamurai

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Hmm....

President Donald Trump signaled Friday that he may not implement a 25-year-old federal program that helps historically black colleges finance construction projects on their campuses, suggesting that it may run afoul of the Constitution.

In a signing statement on the $1.1 trillion omnibus government spending bill, Trump singled out the Historically Black College and University Capital Financing Program as an example of provisions in the funding bill “that allocate benefits on the basis of race, ethnicity, and gender.”
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Smith noted that the federal designation of an institution as an HBCU is not based on race, but rather on mission, accreditation status and the year the institution was established.” She speculated that the “signing statement may simply be the Office of Management and Budget being overly cautious and perhaps not fully understanding this important distinction as it relates to HBCUs, but UNCF needs more information regarding their thinking and intent.”
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ck-colleges-financing-unconstitutional-238061
 
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