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PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why

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B-Dubs

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That's great news, but I wonder how many people are registering to vote not realizing they don't live in Ossoff's district?

It might not help him win, but it could help a Dem win a statewide race at some point in the future though. We came within like 3% of the GOP's tally during the presidential, more people registering across the state as a result of Ossoff can only be a good thing.

It is amazing watching this honestly. This is the shit pulled with Trump and now watching it is fascinating.

It really goes to show the weaknesses in social media. Fake news is like a virus. It germinates on 4chan then gets injected into the bloodstream (twitter) by Wikileaks. From there it spreads all over the internet.
 
It might not help him win, but it could help a Dem win a statewide race at some point in the future though. We came within like 3% of the GOP's tally during the presidential, more people registering across the state as a result of Ossoff can only be a good thing.

Absolutely. When the National vote shifted 2 points towards Republican Georgia went a slightly more Democratic(as opposed to going 2 points R.) I think Georgia is a strong possibility for 2020 and the Governor race in 2018 are at least going to be closer than they have in a long time.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Of course the Australians have better healthcare than we do --everybody does. ObamaCare is dead! But our healthcare will soon be great.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/860573284462669824

Let me get this straight.

- Trump makes a moronic tweet about how a country with a single payer system has better health care than we do.
- Presumably, it is explained to him by his staff members and other more knowledgeable people that are close to him.
- Trump then of course, doubles down on this moronic statement and expands it to include every other first world country that has a better, more robust health care system than we do.
- This is the logic he uses to turn our system as far away from those clearly superior systems, as possible.

This guy...
 

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
It might not help him win, but it could help a Dem win a statewide race at some point in the future though. We came within like 3% of the GOP's tally during the presidential, more people registering across the state as a result of Ossoff can only be a good thing.



It really goes to show the weaknesses in social media. Fake news is like a virus. It germinates on 4chan then gets injected into the bloodstream (twitter) by Wikileaks. From there it spreads all over the internet.

I saw it on reddit the other night people just reposting it over and over on r/worldnews trying to make it stick.

I wonder if we will ever get a full story on how it actually happens and so on. Especially now just watching it happen. I knew it was happening during our election but watching it on the outside of the french election you see it even more so.
Let me get this straight.

- Trump makes a moronic tweet about how a country with a single payer system has better health care than we do.
- Presumably, it is explained to him by his staff members and other more knowledgeable people that are close to him.
- Trump then of course, doubles down on this moronic statement and expands it to include every other first world country that has a better, more robust health care system than we do.
- This is the logic he uses to turn our system as far away from those clearly superior systems, as possible.

This guy...

Forgetting Spicer's fill in for the day said he didn't actually mean what he said last night and was being nice.
 
I saw it on reddit the other night people just reposting it over and over on r/worldnews trying to make it stick.

I wonder if we will ever get a full story on how it actually happens and so on. Especially now just watching it happen. I knew it was happening during our election but watching it on the outside of the french election you see it even more so.

I'm pretty sure Clinton Watts and his peers know exactly how it happens at this point.

The bottom line is that Google is too powerful and search trending is easily controlled. Sites like 4chan and Reddit need to be weighted downward into oblivion by human curators that control the weighting for search. The internet is destroying the world.
 

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
omg, did he actually say that?

of course he did, ugh...

Sarah Huckabee Sanders spoke today because Spicer had Navy Reserve duties.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House deputy press secretary, had suggested earlier on Friday that Trump was being "complimentary" of Turnbull.

"I think he was simply being complimentary of the prime minister, and I don't think it was much more than that," Huckabee-Sanders said.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tweet-australia-healthcare-obamacare-2017-5
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
I'm pretty sure Clinton Watts and his peers know exactly how it happens at this point.

The bottom line is that Google is too powerful and search trending is easily controlled. Sites like 4chan and Reddit need to be weighted downward into oblivion by human curators that control the weighting for search. The internet is destroying the world.

It's not only that, but Twitter itself is a huge artery and spreads this shit at lightning speed. There's just not enough moderation by the site itself to stop this stuff from spreading like wildfire. Honestly, I blame Twitter/Facebook/Reddit more than I do Google. There's a reason we're seeing this deluge after the advent and proliferation of social media. It just wasn't as easy to spread before.
 
I legit think the suicide rate would tick up a bit if 4chan went down. A lot of people are obsessed with the site and I don't know what else they would live for.

I'll care as much for their lives as they care for those who are losing healthcare.

It's not only that, but Twitter itself is a huge artery and spreads this shit at lightning speed. There's just not enough moderation by the site itself to stop this stuff from spreading like wildfire. Honestly, I blame Twitter/Facebook/Reddit more than I do Google. There's a reason we're seeing this deluge after the advent and proliferation of social media. It just wasn't as easy to spread before.

I'm guessing Snapchat is in the crosshairs of the troll army at this point.
 

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
It's not only that, but Twitter itself is a huge artery and spreads this shit at lightning speed. There's just not enough moderation by the site itself to stop this stuff from spreading like wildfire. Honestly, I blame Twitter/Facebook/Reddit more than I do Google.

It just spreads once it hits Twitter/Reddit/Facebook and any site sharing sites in general. People posted links in this forum most likely as well. Once it hits google can't stop it. It just jumps to the top and it is already off to the races.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
I'm guessing Snapchat is in the crosshairs of the troll army at this point.

Luckily Snapchat isn't currently set up to allow of it, as far as I understand the platform.

It just spreads once it hits Twitter/Reddit/Facebook and any site sharing sites in general. People posted links in this forum most likely as well. Once it hits google can't stop it. It just jumps to the top and it is already off to the races.

What I'm saying is, by the time it hits Google it's already too late. It'll have already spread everywhere due to Twitter/Facebook/Reddit because those are where people get a lot of their news these days. Those are the places that need to actively fight against this shit.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
Luckily Snapchat isn't currently set up to allow of it, as far as I understand the platform.



What I'm saying is, by the time it hits Google it's already too late. It'll have already spread everywhere due to Twitter/Facebook/Reddit because those are where people get a lot of their news these days. Those are the places that need to actively fight against this shit.

I agree. It is just hard because of that one idiot friend we all have picks it up posts it and it goes on and on.
 

Slizeezyc

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Let me get this straight.

- Trump makes a moronic tweet about how a country with a single payer system has better health care than we do.
- Presumably, it is explained to him by his staff members and other more knowledgeable people that are close to him.
- Trump then of course, doubles down on this moronic statement and expands it to include every other first world country that has a better, more robust health care system than we do.
- This is the logic he uses to turn our system as far away from those clearly superior systems, as possible.

This guy...

Just for the record, I don't believe Australia is single-payer or like some of the truly "universal" systems of something like Canada or *insert various Scandinavian countries here*
 
It might not help him win, but it could help a Dem win a statewide race at some point in the future though. We came within like 3% of the GOP's tally during the presidential, more people registering across the state as a result of Ossoff can only be a good thing.



It really goes to show the weaknesses in social media. Fake news is like a virus. It germinates on 4chan then gets injected into the bloodstream (twitter) by Wikileaks. From there it spreads all over the internet.

Almost like ignoring the trolls doesn't actually work
 

kirblar

Member
G.O.P. House Candidate in Montana Is Caught on Tape Praising Health Bill
When Greg Gianforte, the Republican running for an open House seat in Montana, was asked on Thursday whether he would have supported the bill repealing the Affordable Care Act that passed the House that day, he declined to answer.

“Greg needs to know all the facts, because it’s important to know exactly what’s in the bill before he votes on it,” said a spokesman for Mr. Gianforte, who is running in a special election for the seat vacated by Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke.

But on the same day, during a private conference call with Republican-leaning lobbyists in Washington, Mr. Gianforte offered a more supportive view of the health bill. Making the case for the “national significance” of the Montana election on May 25, Mr. Gianforte said: “The votes in the House are going to determine whether we get tax reform done, sounds like we just passed a health care thing, which I’m thankful for, sounds like we’re starting to repeal and replace.”
That sound you just heard is Quist's fundraising numbers going crazy in the next few days.
 
It's not only that, but Twitter itself is a huge artery and spreads this shit at lightning speed. There's just not enough moderation by the site itself to stop this stuff from spreading like wildfire. Honestly, I blame Twitter/Facebook/Reddit more than I do Google. There's a reason we're seeing this deluge after the advent and proliferation of social media. It just wasn't as easy to spread before.

Bluntly Social Media can be seen as Hobbesian philosophy proven correct on some level. Social media is basically where there is no authority (here to be understood as a curator, editor, fact checker, whatever) and without that authority figure we are arguably less free than if Twitter, Facebook, Youtube was properly moderated and if 4&8chan were wiped out.
 

Zukkoyaki

Member
G.O.P. House Candidate in Montana Is Caught on Tape Praising Health Bill

That sound you just heard is Quist's fundraising numbers going crazy in the next few days.
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French candidate Macron e-mails got hacked. It is the US election all over again.

It's royally messed up but thing is the French election is in a day and their media can no longer cover the election until polls close. Everything about it screams desperation. Thankfully his lead is stronger than Hillary's ever was.
 

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
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It's royally messed up but thing is the French election is in a day and their media can no longer cover the election until polls close. Everything about it screams desperation. Thankfully his lead is stronger than Hillary's ever was.

Good hopefully it is a better end then our election. Just funny it is beat by beat of what happened with us.
 

Allard

Member
Election is tomorrow right? Hopefully with it a day away and with so much ground to make up this won't have the effect it had in the US

Not sure if it will affect the election but part of releasing the DNC emails wasn't just about making it harder for Hilary to win, it was about damaging her presidential term should she win right out of the gate. This action, should there be anything in those emails that is 'embarrasing', could extend beyond just who wins in the next 36 hours. Its about creating chaos and instability for those who peddle the EU.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
I haven't been following the French elections closely, but how is this Macron dude on policy? All I'm familiar with is that shitbag La Pen is running against him.
 

kirblar

Member
I haven't been following the French elections closely, but how is this Macron dude on policy? All I'm familiar with is that shitbag La Pen is running against him.
If you like pro-free trade technocratic liberalism, he's perfect for you.

The election is basically the center of the horseshoe vs the combined extremes. (Le Pen is both socialist and horribly racist!)
 

Zukkoyaki

Member
I haven't been following the French elections closely, but how is this Macron dude on policy? All I'm familiar with is that shitbag La Pen is running against him.
From what I've seen, he would probably be best described in American terms as a moderate Republican who doesn't have it out for human rights. So pretty decent everywhere except arguably economics.
 
If you like pro-free trade technocratic liberalism, he's perfect for you.

The election is basically the center of the horseshoe vs the combined extremes. (Le Pen is both socialist and horribly racist!)

She's not that socialist. She said that Dupont-Aignan would be her PM. She's more protectionist than anything. Or, as she says, "intelligent protectionism".

From what I've seen, he would probably be best described in American terms as a moderate Republican who doesn't have it out for human rights. So pretty decent everywhere except arguably economics.

Nah, he's basically the policy positions of a Jon Ossoff. He was a member of PS.
 

Wilsongt

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This Trump recovery is fucking amazing, dawgs. Lowest umemployment rate in TEN FUCKING YEARS!!

Trump is the fucking KING of jobs!


Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!
1:29

3:32 PM · May 5, 2017
 

War Peaceman

You're a big guy.
From what I've seen, he would probably be best described in American terms as a moderate Republican who doesn't have it out for human rights. So pretty decent everywhere except arguably economics.

This is a weird opinion. He would fit snugly into the Democrats. He's a sensible and smart man. Pro-EU, though not uncritical. Most countries, except Canada and maybe Germany would be far better with a man like him in charge.
 

Debirudog

Member
French candidate Macron e-mails got hacked. It is the US election all over again.

I was extremely pissed at first (and I'm still annoyed because golly gee, who else could have done this) but it's too little too late, french media can't cover it and Macron has a 20 plus-point lead.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
If you like pro-free trade technocratic liberalism, he's perfect for you.

The election is basically the center of the horseshoe vs the combined extremes. (Le Pen is both socialist and horribly racist!)

He's not amazing or anything, but he's not a Nazi.

From what I've seen, he would probably be best described in American terms as a moderate Republican who doesn't have it out for human rights. So pretty decent everywhere except arguably economics.

Cool beans.

Well, whatever he is, I'm sure him winning will piss off all the Breitbrats salivating at a La Pen win.
 

Zukkoyaki

Member
This is a weird opinion. He would fit snugly into the Democrats. He's a sensible and smart man. Pro-EU, though not uncritical. Most countries, except Canada and maybe Germany would be far better with a man like him in charge.
I apologize, I don't know very much about French politics and have only taken an interest recently. That description was based on my own observations but like I said, I'm far from an expert. Would something like a centrist dem be a better description.

Where are you from?

That obvious, huh? Lol

I'm American who kind of passively follows world politics so I'm hardly a good source of French political knowledge. That's just how I interpreted him based on what I've seen but if I'm off that's fine!
 

Teggy

Member
This Trump recovery is fucking amazing, dawgs. Lowest umemployment rate in TEN FUCKING YEARS!!

Trump is the fucking KING of jobs!


Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!
1:29

3:32 PM · May 5, 2017

What does 1:29 mean? Is that a verse from the Trump bible?
 
I haven't been following the French elections closely, but how is this Macron dude on policy? All I'm familiar with is that shitbag La Pen is running against him.

He's a former investment banker who is very anti-labor and against the welfare state. So not ideal, but not a psychopath like MLP.
 
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