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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house

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skullmuffins

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i'm in for MSNBC covering news from a liberal perspective, not spreading debunked conspiracy theories and spending half their time whining about what other networks are doing



dollop of oppo? https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-op...kers-implied-a-connection-to-flynn-1498770851

WASHINGTON—Before the 2016 presidential election, a longtime Republican opposition researcher mounted an independent campaign to obtain emails he believed were stolen from Hillary Clinton's private server, likely by Russian hackers.

In conversations with members of his circle and with others he tried to recruit to help him, the GOP operative, Peter W. Smith, implied he was working with retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn, at the time a senior adviser to then-candidate Donald Trump.

”He said, ‘I'm talking to Michael Flynn about this—if you find anything, can you let me know?'" said Eric York, a computer-security expert from Atlanta who searched hacker forums on Mr. Smith's behalf for people who might have access to the emails.

Emails written by Mr. Smith and one of his associates show that his small group considered Mr. Flynn and his consulting company, Flynn Intel Group, to be allies in their quest.

What role, if any, Mr. Flynn may have played in Mr. Smith's project is unclear. In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Smith said he knew Mr. Flynn, but he never stated that Mr. Flynn was involved.

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The operation Mr. Smith described is consistent with information that has been examined by U.S. investigators probing Russian interference in the elections.

Those investigators have examined reports from intelligence agencies that describe Russian hackers discussing how to obtain emails from Mrs. Clinton's server and then transmit them to Mr. Flynn via an intermediary, according to U.S. officials with knowledge of the intelligence.

It isn't clear who that intermediary might have been or whether Mr. Smith's operation was the one allegedly under discussion by the Russian hackers. The reports were compiled during the same period when Mr. Smith's group was operating, according to the officials.

Mr. Smith said he worked independently and wasn't part of the Trump campaign.

His project began over Labor Day weekend 2016 when Mr. Smith, a private-equity executive from Chicago active in Republican politics, said he assembled a group of technology experts, lawyers and a Russian-speaking investigator based in Europe to acquire emails the group theorized might have been stolen from the private server Mrs. Clinton used as secretary of state.

Mr. Smith's focus was some 33,000 emails Mrs. Clinton said were deleted because they were deemed personal. Mr. Smith said he believed that the emails might have been obtained by hackers and that they actually concerned official matters Mrs. Clinton wanted to conceal—two notions for which he offered no evidence. Mrs. Clinton gave the State Department tens of thousands of emails related to official business.

Former Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey said in July 2016 there was no evidence the private server had been hacked but held out the possibility it could have been.

In the interview with the Journal, Mr. Smith said he and his colleagues found five groups of hackers who claimed to possess Mrs. Clinton's deleted emails, including two groups he determined were Russians.

”We knew the people who had these were probably around the Russian government," Mr. Smith said.

U.S. intelligence agencies have accused the Russians of stealing emails from the Democratic National Committee and Mrs. Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta, and providing them to WikiLeaks last summer as part of a multifaceted operation to interfere with the election and help Mr. Trump's campaign. Mr. Trump on July 27 publicly encouraged Russia to go further and find the Clinton ”emails that are missing." Asked about that on Monday, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said Mr. Trump was joking.

Mr. Smith said after vetting batches of emails offered to him by hacker groups last fall, he couldn't be sure enough of their authenticity to leak them himself. ”We told all the groups to give them to WikiLeaks," he said. WikiLeaks has never published those emails or claimed to have them.

Mr. Smith and one of his associates said they had a line of communication with Mr. Flynn and his consulting company.
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PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
Those investigators have examined reports from intelligence agencies that describe Russian hackers discussing how to obtain emails from Mrs. Clinton’s server and then transmit them to Mr. Flynn via an intermediary, according to U.S. officials with knowledge of the intelligence.
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:eek:

Mr. Smith died at age 81 on May 14, which was about 10 days after the Journal interviewed him. His account of the email search is believed to be his only public comment on it.
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huh.
 
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Chumley

Banned
PantherLotus said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-op...kers-implied-a-connection-to-flynn-1498770851

:eek:

First evidence of direct collusion.
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Today is lit
 
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Barzul

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studyguy said:
H.R. 3003: No Sanctuary for Criminals Act just passed the house
YEA: 228
NAY: 195
NV: 11
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Probably DOA in the Senate. Democrats could try and spin this as being anti law enforcement as these beaurocrats from Washington are trying to claim they know better than the police on the ground.
 
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CygnusXS

will gain confidence one day
How unfortunate that he died. Don't want to speculate, but it would have been much better for the ongoing investigation if he was still alive.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This is why the right-wing media switched from "No collusion!" to "Well, collusion isn't so bad" this past weekend. You can bet Mueller is already connecting the dots with this one.
 
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Gruco

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JWiLL said:
If there was anything tangible at this point, we'd all know about it.

The prime target surrounding the collusion narrative has been Michael Flynn, but at this point we know that his conversations with the ambassador (that people on both sides had, since...you know, it's his job) didn't amount to any actual collusion and he was cleared. Even the Washington Post admits this and they're not exactly unbiased:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-reviewed-flynns-calls-with-russian-ambassador-but-found-nothing-illicit/2017/01/23/aa83879a-e1ae-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html?utm_term=.82e90b77f7eb

Basically, the entire investigation is based around people talking to someone who's Russian, at some point, about anything.
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Please proceed, governor.
 
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Chumley

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JWiLL said:
If there was anything tangible at this point, we'd all know about it.

The prime target surrounding the collusion narrative has been Michael Flynn, but at this point we know that his conversations with the ambassador (that people on both sides had, since...you know, it's his job) didn't amount to any actual collusion and he was cleared. Even the Washington Post admits this and they're not exactly unbiased:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-reviewed-flynns-calls-with-russian-ambassador-but-found-nothing-illicit/2017/01/23/aa83879a-e1ae-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html?utm_term=.82e90b77f7eb

Basically, the entire investigation is based around people talking to someone who's Russian, at some point, about anything. That's all we've heard since the initial Flynn angle. Yet there's no smoking gun after 8 months and they won't find one 12 months from now either.

The Watergate investigation may have taken 2 years, but that was over 30 years ago. Information moves a hell of a lot faster now.

Again - I'm not American, I'm not "on the right", I don't have a dog in any fight here. From an outsider's perspective, the entire thing has become fucking hilarious to an extent, with CNN's constant "BREAKING NEWS" about Russia, but the longer it drags on the more damage it causes - and I don't mean to Trump. The Democratic party is dying and instead of trying to pull itself together it's dragging along with this entire narrative. I really don't understand the point in continuing in this direction, he's not getting impeached. That's a pipedream.
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This is a few days old but I saw it because of Gruco's reply, there's so much bullshit in this post I don't know where to start.

One thing for certain is that is r/t_d activated a lot of burner accounts here in the last couple of days.
 
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Fenderputty

Banned
Plinko said:
This is why the right-wing media switched from "No collusion!" to "Well, collusion isn't so bad" this past weekend. You can bet Mueller is already connecting the dots with this one.
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Wonder why they were asked to sit on this story and I wonder what changed for IC community to let the leak loose?
 
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TestOfTide

Banned
Chumley said:
This is a few days old but I saw it because of Gruco's reply, there's so much bullshit in this post I don't know where to start.

One thing for certain is that is r/t_d activated a lot of burner accounts here in the last couple of days.
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They were activated long ago. It's just that certain threads are prone to exposing them, such as the Anita thread from gaming side yesterday.
 
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Gruco

Banned
TestOfTide said:
You forgot that the FBI has probably also flipped Carter Page, considering they interviewed him for TEN HOURS over 5 different meetings as recently as march.
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Dude, they just wanted to hang out with him because he was obviously such a cool, fun guy. No need for a lawyer present at all when you're just chillin' with your bros at the FBI, right?
 
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