Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Still am surprised they'd be dumb enough to pass this. Would be devastating for most people and have a terrible effect on the health care industry.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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Still am surprised they'd be dumb enough to pass this. Would be devastating for most people and have a terrible effect on the health care industry.
He can cry all he wants. If he doesn't bring up any evidence and refuses to comply, he'll be removed.
ArkhamFantasy
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A little morning shot of oppo? I'll take it.
aspiegamer
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If Trump & Co just came out and confessed everything, it would do them less damage in the long run. Getting busted for lying day after day after day after day infinitely keeps their dumb asses at the top of every media cycle. An infinite negative spiral that'll have more and more auxiliary consequences as time goes on. Throwing things out there would at least buy time until Muller, and since that's happening regardless they'd have time to prepare a defense and maaaaaaaybe get a bit of their own narrative back for awhile. Otherwise this is going to continue daily. There's blood in the water and every media outlet in the country wants in on it.
I mean, has it been news that Trump went to France? Barely? A new health care bill? Second fiddle, where even a month ago that dominated the news for days on end. The narrative right now is that Trump sits in the White House all day watching TV while his underlings get picked off with various scandals and revelations. That's what people see as headlines on their phones in the morning, it's the alerts they get during the day, and what's on the evening news. Every tweet brings the media circling back for new evaluation and criticism, too. It resets the clock at 24 hours for a new angle against him. Very little of what he says is going unchallenged anymore.
I mean, has it been news that Trump went to France? Barely? A new health care bill? Second fiddle, where even a month ago that dominated the news for days on end. The narrative right now is that Trump sits in the White House all day watching TV while his underlings get picked off with various scandals and revelations. That's what people see as headlines on their phones in the morning, it's the alerts they get during the day, and what's on the evening news. Every tweet brings the media circling back for new evaluation and criticism, too. It resets the clock at 24 hours for a new angle against him. Very little of what he says is going unchallenged anymore.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
They all are. At this point nothing would surprise me--even all of them magically agreeing to this.
Right, but he made such a big deal out of reviewing the bill and held a conference on why he can't support it. Then his feelings got hurt when some negative ads were run against him, poor baby. Now he's basically MIA.
VendettaRed07
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Ordinarily I'd agree that being upfront instead of doubling down and lying when caught in a scandal is the best route
But not in this case lol. I don't think there are any bonus points for coming clean when it's treason you are being accused of. They are lying because they have to, because the truth is obviously too terrible to admit to. And I'm sure that it gets even worse than what we already know about.
But not in this case lol. I don't think there are any bonus points for coming clean when it's treason you are being accused of. They are lying because they have to, because the truth is obviously too terrible to admit to. And I'm sure that it gets even worse than what we already know about.
nature boy
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WHAT ARE THE ODDS
tedrotheredro
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I bet Loretta Lynch let him in, too!
smokeandmirrors
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Ahhhhh. Love the smell of fresh oppo in the morn'
Wonder if something big is coming this evening. This would be a good evening pre weekend droppo 🤔
Wonder if something big is coming this evening. This would be a good evening pre weekend droppo 🤔
balladofwindfishes
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Of course they're looking for a way to say Yes. It's their bill and they've campaigned on it
The first time around, we only had Heller and Paul as hard nos until the CBO report came out. Collins wasn't even a no until later.
Those senators are just being cautiously optimistic about the CBO report, which is likely going to be disastrous.
Officerrob
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This is fucking ridiculous
ugaboga232
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Wasn't goldstone in the room? That makes it six.
Officerrob
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Things are changing by the minute, but from what we have been told so far, he wasn't in the room
So honest and transparent.
Jr: Welp, I guess if they know there was already at least one other person there....
nature boy
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So this new oppoium is how much on the nothingmatters scale?
Joe Shlabotnik
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Also present but not yet mentioned:
- Ivan Drago
- a bear
- Shmladimir Shmutin, ordinary USA Rock And Roll Cowboy Guy
- sentient bottle of vodka (denies any connection to Russian government)
- Ivan Drago
- a bear
- Shmladimir Shmutin, ordinary USA Rock And Roll Cowboy Guy
- sentient bottle of vodka (denies any connection to Russian government)
mightynine
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DTjr - Look, I thought he was the janitor! They sometimes come in during the middle of the day!
Host Samurai
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Zangief was in the room
fredrancour
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7 Rush Limbaugh aneurysms out of ten
Either Kushner or Manafort flipped, only way imo.
Sometimes you have to step back and remind yourself of the hypocritical double-standard being applied here. Considering these new revelations Democrats have been remarkably measured in their response, even too measured some might argue. If this was the other way around, with either Obama or Clinton in the cross-hairs, Republicans in Congress would refuse to work on anything other than impeachment, much less a huge health-care bill, and Fox News would have talking heads on 24/7 calling for impeachment.
AntraxSuicide
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If he drank, he'd pair that with a white wine.
I don't think it's a full flip, but it's the Kush. His lawyers were responsible for the email coming out, right?
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
It seems there like there's only two ways: someone in the room is talking, or there was communication (email?) about the meeting which described it.
balladofwindfishes
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Democrats don't have a 24/7 propaganda station on cable TV, or thousands of popular talk radio hosts preaching to loyal followers.
ArkhamFantasy
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They're going to be able to sell Jr's senate hearing on pay per view.
Host Samurai
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AP confirms ID of the Russian-American lobbyist who attended the Donald Trump Jr. meeting as Rinat Akhmetshin
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/885858336536752128
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/885858336536752128
A reflection off a reflection on a polished marble column. CSI style.
So a guy who wants the Magnisky act gone.
This is looking bad for Jr, lol. He went thinking they had dirt on Hillary, they wanted to talk about adoptions, and then he bails when they have no dirt lol
Neodiablo22
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It's really bad optics, but he may not be volating a law.
I don't think he bailed. Why would I believe him on this, given every other word out of his mouth was a lie? And given the speech his father gave an hour later promising huge new revelations on hillary?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
http://www.courthousenews.com/mining-company-sayslaw-firm-hacked-it/
This story has some interesting accusations.
Ignatz Mouse
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NPR had somebody on yesterday (maybe the Browder in that article) and he asserted that a large reason for all of this is the Magnitsky Act and Putin's attempts to undermine it-- that it affects Putin personally as it affects his offshore wealth.
Interesting vector for all of this.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Is the CBO even going to be done, though? Spiro doesn't seem to think so, and he thinks it was deliberate:
https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/885823700842545156
<put on his tinfoil heat, takes out his fanfic notebook>
What if it's the Russians?
So Trump fails to deliver on dropping their sanctions so they decide to give him a warning shot by leaking something which is actually not a presidency ending deal at the end of the day, but with a clear message, that the pee pee tape is next.
Makes you think.
Okay so yeah, you're gonna say the NYT sites White House sources, but what if they're all Russian spies in deep cover?
Makes you thonk.
Unless they kill the legislative filibuster, don't they have to wait for the CBO score?
benicillin
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Do you think the next President will get a Nobel peace prize for not being Trump?
AFIAK, it's not explicitly said anywhere that the CBO is the body that determines the deficit impact of a bill as it applies to the reconciliation process.
Though it will really go down to what the parliamentarian say.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I don't think anyone is entirely sure. They're using Price's own score for it, which is obviously going to be doctored to make it look way better than it is.
Didn't Obama get one for not being Bush?
I'd actually have been fine with Obama getting one for ACA, but he got it before that.
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