Officerrob
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Dog and pony show to try and strike fear into people
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair
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As if people don't already know they'll put all their weight behind WaPo and NYT informers.
The "MUELLER CAN'T INVESTIGATE THAT IT'S NOT FAIR STICK TO YOUR MANDATE" idiots should try actually, like, reading the mandate to investigate:
Sounds like a pretty broad mandate to me. Seeing too many of these fools on the news or elsewhere. The reason Trump calls it a "red line" to look into his finances is because he knows they are dirty, what's their excuse?
Sounds like a pretty broad mandate to me. Seeing too many of these fools on the news or elsewhere. The reason Trump calls it a "red line" to look into his finances is because he knows they are dirty, what's their excuse?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/4/16085892/trump-support-battleground-districts
At this point, not good news for 2018.
Summary: Trump isn't losing ground in close, republican-held districts.
At this point, not good news for 2018.
We're still a year out from elections in 2018. Plenty of time for Trump to keep screwing up.
Officerrob
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Exactly. People have to remember that it's only been six months, it's expecting too much to see his numbers fall significantly in Republican distracts that fast
Poodlestrike
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More to the point, due to gerrymandering the Fox News Effect is going to be more pronounced in those districts than in other ones. We probably won't see a significant drop until there's an external crisis their news source can't explain away.
And there is NO way we won't have one of those by November 2018. 2 hurricane seasons with no FEMA director? C'mon.
And there is NO way we won't have one of those by November 2018. 2 hurricane seasons with no FEMA director? C'mon.
RumbleHumble
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Like Trump going on vacation and never coming back (the dream).
Poodlestrike
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Lawdy, that would be nice.
Bad news for Kay Hagan.
Unfortunate terminology.
habithipster
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How so? Not a native English speaker, just tryin to qualify for immigration.
Just wanna throw out some probability number so everyone can have a good weekend;
Federal grand jury indictment rate: 99%
Conviction rate: 85%
Mueller's conviction rate: 93%
And this is quite possibly Mueller's most important case of his life. Throw in the super-hero team of lawyers & investigators he's had on this thing, and there's no way he'd go through with it if he didn't have a slam dunk. If he didn't he'd just drop things, kinda like when Comey dropped things with Clinton.
Federal grand jury indictment rate: 99%
Conviction rate: 85%
Mueller's conviction rate: 93%
And this is quite possibly Mueller's most important case of his life. Throw in the super-hero team of lawyers & investigators he's had on this thing, and there's no way he'd go through with it if he didn't have a slam dunk. If he didn't he'd just drop things, kinda like when Comey dropped things with Clinton.
Look up the term blackshirts
habithipster
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Oh. Well...
As a native English speaker, it's literally someone trying to play "gotcha" when you said nothing wrong.
Dubbedinenglish
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Why is Flake becoming the new moderate darling?
Aaron Strife
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I don't know, his approval rating is 18 fucking percent.
Just beat his ass, stop looking to fluff up conservative assholes.
Two comments on NPR were about Garland and the stolen seats. His round about answer for it was basically Democrats started it.
SirClinksAlot
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Jeff Flake is a shitbag libertarian. This press he's getting for his book is garbage. I don't see how he doesn't lose a primary in 2018.
Because he wrote a book criticizing Republicans for their approaches toward Obama and Trump. Will this have any impact on his voting behavior, the only thing that matters and a track record that is already 95 percent in alignment with Trump's, of course not. But (male) moderate darlings get their crowns just by talking a good game with Beltway reporters and doing little else.
RustyNails
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Flake knows his ass is toast. He's probably looking for a commentator gig at CNN or something.
Autodidact
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You said it.
Hate immigrants, gays, blacks, and think the poors should fuck off and die? Doesn't matter! As long as you criticize Trump, you too can be a Moderate Darling and be hired by MSNBC!
All you have to do now to be a moderate darling is dare to say one negative word about Trump. Look at how the media fell over themselves to talk up Ben fucking Sasse.
Flake gets it double because he's from a state that people think will be swingy in the future. So his actual voting record, which paints him almost as conservative as Ted fucking Cruz, is inconsequential.
Flake gets it double because he's from a state that people think will be swingy in the future. So his actual voting record, which paints him almost as conservative as Ted fucking Cruz, is inconsequential.
Poodlestrike
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The take I heard recently (that I'm inclined to agree with) is that we shouldn't be too quick to throw Flake under the bus? Like, yes, in all likelihood, he's a snake talking out of both sides of his mouth. But let's judge the words he's written in this book by the actions he takes from now going forward. Doesn't do anybody any good to encourage people to speak out against the deplorable way government is being run and then shit on them for not doing more sooner.
If, starting now, Flake fails to live up to his comments, by all means lets' shit on him from high heaven.
If, starting now, Flake fails to live up to his comments, by all means lets' shit on him from high heaven.
I feel like it needs to be said again and again. Sen. Flake is not a moderate, he is not becoming a moderate, he is not decrying conservatism. He is disappointed with the behavior of conservatives and the way republicans have poorly governed in recent years. But his positions have not changed. He is a hardcore conservative. Just because he's nice doesn't mean he's a moderate.
Bonen no Max'd
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he's a Republican, we should just be glad it looks likely he'll lose next year right now
Box of Kittens
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This Illinois poll is from last week, but I didn't see it mentioned.
Normington Petts on behalf of the Democratic Governors Association.
Bruce Rauner approval: 34/63
Donald Trump approval (IL): 35/63
IL-Gov: Generic Democrat 49, Rauner 37
Caveats:
(1) The poll was on behalf of the DGA.
(2) They either didn't poll or didn't release numbers on hypothetical match ups between Rauner and any of the actual candidates. I expect all of them to do worse than Generic Democrat. The field is weak enough that even given Rauner's dismal approvals, I think this race is close to a 50/50 shot.
Normington Petts on behalf of the Democratic Governors Association.
Bruce Rauner approval: 34/63
Donald Trump approval (IL): 35/63
IL-Gov: Generic Democrat 49, Rauner 37
Caveats:
(1) The poll was on behalf of the DGA.
(2) They either didn't poll or didn't release numbers on hypothetical match ups between Rauner and any of the actual candidates. I expect all of them to do worse than Generic Democrat. The field is weak enough that even given Rauner's dismal approvals, I think this race is close to a 50/50 shot.
Was that on PSA yesterday? I do kind of agree with Dan's comment about how we can't keep hammering on Republicans to speak out against Trump and then, when do they speak out against Trump, hammer them for being hypocrites.
At the same time, I feel like the "speaking out" bit shouldn't be just literally speaking out but words, too. McCain and Rubio coming out hard on Tillerson in his confirmation hearing only to turn around and vote him through for the stupidest of justifications (I believe Rubio's was something like "Well I promise to be extra on the undersecretaries!" is doubly hilarious because Trump and Tillerson aren't even appointing any undersecretaries!) is completely pointless. There need to be some votes behind these words.
And again, this seems like a male-only phenomenon. Collins and Murkowski actually do back up their sentiments with votes, but the media doesn't really seem to give a shit, and treats them at times almost as if they're de facto Democrats.
This is kind of a misleading graph though, since governors aren't mapped to shares of the population. Especially when given that Democrats tend to congregate in big cities/urban areas, and this kind of geographic clustering has only gotten pronounced over the years.
whyamihere
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whyamihere
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what does the DSA do
They'll all likely do worse than Generic Democrat because no sane and competent person likely wants the job.
Takes money from people who want to throw it away in order to feel good, but are at least enlightened enough to know Stein is a scam?
So what you're saying is Melania will be fine?
Box of Kittens
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Obama pls parachute in and save us all.
whyamihere
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The Good Wife, but stating a Slovenian former swimsuit model
something something "whisper no" something something "chaos emeralds"
Bonen no Max'd
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run candidates in local elections (they've elected a few city councilors, a state senator, and a community college school board member iirc in the past few months with some more city council candidates currently running including Jon Grant who just made it into the runoff for the Seattle city council) and work with organized labor to unionize
ofc they were also incredibly small before 2016 and now are like 4x bigger so I think one of the central questions in the org is what to do with the surge in membership
oh, and they also support socialist candidates who aren't members like the SAlt woman running for Minneapolis city council or uh Bernie Sanders, though SAlt seems to hate them as socdem capitalist roaders so I'm not sure the feeling is mutual
This dude literally voted to put a guy who was running a conspiracy blog into a lifetime position. That was 2 weeks ago. I'm sure he started writing his book before that. I've seen nothing but talk. How can you be mad that conservatives were willing to overlook and feed into the birther crazy but vote for someone with those views into a lifetime role?
Poodlestrike
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If you weren't very, very good at cognitive dissonance, you wouldn't get far in Conservative politics
Consistent 30% should do the trick.
Basileus777
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There is no percentage.
DSA is basically a grassroots organizing platform for socialists, helping people organize politically on a municipal level and tackle local problems. Most of what they do is rally for specific political changes (easier unionization, police transparency, higher minimum wage) and support socialists running for local office.
Box of Kittens
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If Rahm were the nominee I'd go from "this race is a coin flip" to "congratulations Bruce Rauner, on your re-election."
What Illinois really needs is to scrap the state constitution and start fresh, but for now I'll take getting a governor who isn't actively sabotaging the state.
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