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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair

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Wilsongt

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Something can't exist if you deny it and don't say it.

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Officials at the Department of Agriculture (USDA) under the Trump administration have instructed employees to avoid using the terms “climate change” and “greenhouse gases,” according to emails obtained by The Guardian.

In a February email, an official at the USDA’s Natural Resources Conservation Service, Bianca Moebius-Clune, told employees to avoid using the term “climate change” and to employ the phrase “weather extremes” instead, according to the report. Moebius-Clune also told staff to avoid the phrase “reduce greenhouse gases” and instead use “build soil organic matter” or “increase nutrient use efficiency,” per The Guardian.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-email-usda-avoid-climate-change
 
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Valhelm

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kirblar said:
But that means the majority do not! They also do not have no strings attached birthright citizenship! (Also, the proportion of "foreign-born" citizens is not what you would measure ethnic homogeneity by!)

Is anything you post actually argued in good faith?
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Crab is one of the most principled posters on here. You can disagree with his political attitudes, but there's no way to say he doesn't stick to his guns. Accusing him of insincerity is weird.

pigeon said:
I'm happy to revise to "most of Europe."

I, and perhaps other people, was primarily thinking about the fact that most European nations were founded as ethnonationalist entities and America explicitly wasn't. The differences in ethnic diversity seem likely to ultimately descend from that founding distinction. But you're right that some European nations have risen above that!
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America might not be technically an ethnostate, but that's only because our multicultural and pluralistic settler character made "white" a much more practical political focal point than "Protestant" or "English". The liberal elements in our constitution were written with the intention of protecting white male property-owners, rather than the majority of people who were women or slaves or poor white laborers. You know this. Suggesting that our foundational character is somehow less exclusionary than that of any European country is a really ridiculous proposition, because countries like France and Denmark weren't carved out through such a rapid and genocidal seizure as the American conquest.

The comparison with Israel is a lot more apt, because in both circumstances settlers declared that they had the right to live in another populated territory, and used violent force to remove and subdue the indigenous people. While Zionism has not contributed to as much slaughter and cultural annihilation as Manifest Destiny, it's the most dangerous settler-colonial ideology active in the world right now.
 
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Ernest said:
My question would be, how are these seemingly intelligent people at all surprised by Trump's inherent incompetence? It's pretty much his defining characteristic!
Just listening to him talk for 5 minutes, it becomes apparent that he doesn't know shit about dick.
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I think most high executives in this country are closer to Trump than they are an intelligent person.
 
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pigeon

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Ernest said:
My question would be, how are these seemingly intelligent people at all surprised by Trump's inherent incompetence? It's pretty much his defining characteristic!
Just listening to him talk for 5 minutes, it becomes apparent that he doesn't know shit about dick.
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The problem is that they had way too much faith in their own ability to manage him.
 
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jack_package_200

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http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...epeal-push-they-shot-their-wad-on-health-care

Hatch on GOP's ObamaCare repeal push: 'They shot their wad on healthcare'

https://twitter.com/senorrinhatch/status/894584061934452736

As few of you were alive during the Civil War, here's a valuable jargon lesson on "wads" and the shooting of them. http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/224935?rskey=4J398a&result=2#eid …
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Oh cum on, Orrin. We know what you meant.
 
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Diablos

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That's a great analogy actually. All the GOP did for 7 years was fap furiously over repealing Obamacare.

But, you know, when they finally got to go out on a date they had no idea what to do.
 
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Wilsongt

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Diablos said:
That's a great analogy actually. All the GOP did for 7 years was fap furiously over repealing Obamacare.

But, you know, when they finally got to go out on a date they had no idea what to do.
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And all they produced was a bunch of dust of old men fighting over how to control a woman's body via a abortions and Planned Parenthood.
 
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kirblar

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In the category of "Reasons getting Universal Healthcare is hard in the context of employment-based healthcare"....
@lymanstoneky

Turns out that people will vote for more generous welfare if it's for hardowkring poor. http://www.nber.org/papers/w23659

File under "totally unsurprising findings." But the SIZE is surprising: it offsets race!

In this controlled survey experiment, people did show evidence of a racial bias, but when subjects were hardworking, it offset that.

Let me clarify for the confused: this is not saying "if you work hard race doesn't matter." This is about willingness to support welfare.

It's saying that racial bias which reduces willingness to support welfare can be ~wholly offset by using workfare instead of welfare.
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edit: Someone at Vox beating one of my personal drums: We have a political problem no one wants to talk about: very old politicians
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
kirblar said:
In the category of "Reasons getting Universal Healthcare is hard in the context of employment-based healthcare"....
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The main problem I have seen is that rural citizens in white areas almost universally believe other races do not work hard.
 
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Spoiled Milk

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AndyD said:
What happened in 89-90 that saw such dramatic change? Some unusual deregulation? Technology revolution? End of Cold War?
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89 was the beginning of the recession, and 90 was the oil crisis, so there might have been a need to compensate CEOs more for a harder job. That Clinton boom seems much more important, though.
 
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Spoiled Milk

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Some background, btw, on those Clinton year numbers.

When Bill Clinton entered office a year later, he vowed to do something about skyrocketing CEO pay, through a proposed cap on the tax deductibility of executive compensation. But the reform that ultimately passed Congress was watered down, creating an epic loophole that pushed CEO pay even further into the stratosphere.
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Twenty-four years ago, the American CEOs in the president’s diplomatic entourage made a small fraction of today’s typical payout, just $2 million a year on average, but that was still five times as much as their Japanese counterparts earned. The American public was particularly irate over the multi-million dollar paychecks the leaders of the Big 3 automakers were still pocketing, even as Japanese car imports spiked.

In his 1992 campaign manifesto “Putting People First,” Bill Clinton called for a strict cap on the tax deductibility of executive compensation. The sky would still be the limit for CEO pay levels, but anything above $1 million would not be considered a reasonable business expense worthy of a corporate tax deduction.
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After their election victory, Clinton’s top economic advisers persuaded the president (over Labor Secretary Robert Reich’s objections) to insert a huge loophole in his proposal. So-called “performance” pay, including stock options and certain bonuses, would be exempted from the deductibility cap. Congress passed this proposal as part of a larger tax bill in 1993. In response, companies began limiting salaries to around $1 million and defining the vast bulk of compensation as a reward for “performance.”
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The advisers who pushed for this bonus loophole claimed it would help ensure “pay for performance” and give a boost to hi-tech start-ups that were trying to lure hot-shot managers with stock-based pay instead of cash. The goal was to align the financial incentives of companies and their top executives, so that if the firm did well, so would the firm’s leaders. In reality, it has not performed well for anyone except the executives. Study after study has shown a total disconnect between pay and performance throughout corporate America. The Wall Street leaders who pocketed huge fortunes as they led their firms — and the national economy — off a cliff were only the most extreme example.
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In the years after the crash, the 20 leading U.S. banks’ top executives pocketed nearly $800 million in stock-based “performance” pay— before the value of their firm’s stock had returned to pre-crisis levels. In other words, with shareholders who had held on to their stock still in the red, executives were reaping massive rewards that their banks could then deduct off their taxes.
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Instead of boosting performance, the carve-out became a backdoor means for companies to give their executives huge pay packages—while lowering their tax bills. By allowing unlimited deductions for performance pay, the loophole essentially means that the more corporations pay their CEO, the less they pay in taxes. The rest of us get stuck making up the difference. According to the Joint Committee on Taxation, this loophole costs the country about $5 billion in lost revenue every year.
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Spoiled Milk

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Ogodei said:
I don't mind ludicrous CEO pay or stock options as long as it or the realized gains are taxed appropriately.
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Agent Icebeezy said:
Agreed. You are worth what someone wants to pay you. I just ask for proper taxation.
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The promise of shared prosperity is the sole reason for the multitudinous back breaking sacrifices we make for the well-being of the rich and powerful. It's why we don't raise taxes. It's why we contemplate entitlement reform. It's why we fiscally buckle our belts even though college tuition is at an all time high. It's why we have a private healthcare system. They are the wealth makers, and will help us be rich. But really, we've been making them rich. In tax breaks, in loopholes, in fiscal "austerity".
 
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studyguy

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Recall hearing it was raining at the resort where he's staying today, so I'd imagine tweeting is the only outlet for entertainment he has at the moment.
 
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Ecotic

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AndyD said:
What happened in 89-90 that saw such dramatic change? Some unusual deregulation? Technology revolution? End of Cold War?
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The technology changes that globalized the world has also dramatically increased the value that managerial know-how can bring to a company. All of a sudden multinational companies could build global supply chains, build lean six sigma manufacturing operations, outsource and offshore key functions, mine big data for hidden efficiencies, move into newly liberalized economies, forecast sales and production needs with far greater accuracy, and work with consultant companies of all kinds to unlock value. Enterprise Resource Planning and Customer Relationship Management software has vastly increased the view into companies and customers that managers have. RFID and GPS technology can know when and where cargo is, and when it will arrive at warehouses or its final destination. There's been far more changes than I can list, but the difference between what management can know and do for a company compared to 35 years ago is very large.
 
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Prof. Bathtub

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Too bad that more opposing senators aren't pretty blonde women like Mika, since mass condemnation of his idiotic sniping is only afforded to those types.
 
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Teggy

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Ah, in addition to shilling for trump tv, Kayleigh is the new RNC spokesperson. Why did she get a JD to do this stuff?
 
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watershed

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Got the Shakes said:
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 45s45 seconds ago

I think Senator Blumenthal should take a nice long vacation in Vietnam, where he lied about his service, so he can at least say he was there

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/894661651760377856
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Blumenthal should hit back instead of take the high road. More people should be reminded of Trump's lack of service and disparaging remarks about the US military and service members.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I have a feeling these attacks on Blumenthal are going to bite Trump pretty hard eventually.
 
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