The Dems have not won a majority of the white vote in Presidential elections since LBJ.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair
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The speedrun is going well.
VendettaRed07
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Do we have numbers on midterms? Like 2006, etc
VendettaRed07
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Well I think my theory of "If Trump theroitcally has the power to do something he will try it", has been mostly true so far. Expect far more than pardons just for them.
I'm still betting on he pardons everyone in his WH. Every person. And then Mike Pence. Then Pence will pardon Trump on his way out.
See no reason why that won't happen at some point. There's nothing stopping him.
IL Senate passes resolution declaring Neo-Nazi groups to be terrorist organizations. (edit: to be clear, it's a resolution urging law enforcement to consider them terrorists)
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...alls-for-neo-nazis-to-be-classified-as-terror
Gotta get this on a national level.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...alls-for-neo-nazis-to-be-classified-as-terror
Gotta get this on a national level.
shadow_shogun
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Where the hell do they keep finding these black Trump apologists? I thought Paris was the only one.
smokeandmirrors
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Im flabbergasted that Nazi groups aren't terrorist groups nationwide.
skullmuffins
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That was quick.
CreepingFear
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Proud of my home born state for this.
Aaron Strife
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34, which is not that bad, is closer to 50 than to 0! #maga
I want to see him hit sub-30.
Dominican Power
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I like how conservatives are trying to pretend like they haven't been appealing to racists since LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act.
Don't they have to be convicted before they can be pardoned?
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
It's going to be a fucked up game of Hot Potato.
None of these sites have screening processes, which I honestly don't expect them to.
skullmuffins
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Nope. Nixon was never even charged with a crime before he was pardoned.
VendettaRed07
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Nope.
Obama didn't pardon anyone who had not been tried. Which is why Snowden wasn't going to happen but Chelsea Manning did. But that was a self implemented moral ground rather than anything legal; which obviously Trump doesn't give a shit about
Polls from before the Charlottesville disaster and his idiot, tone-deaf response. Pretty sure the next poll will have him even lower.
whyamihere
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fuck.
BoogieWoogie
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Because $$$.
I knew a girl for a few months who is now a big time anchor of Fox News. She has been confronted by a number of people, myself included, how horrible what she's doing is. She just says it's part of a character and she's in it for the career. People will sell their souls for so fucking little.
Yup. It's a proven moneymaker.
Does the pardon have to be specific? Or can he just say "I hereby pardon Ivanka for all crimes she may or may not have committed."
I don't know who on AM radio actually believes 100% of what they even say.
Still, it's Immoral way to make a living by hurting society for monetary gain.
But hey, what's new?
Daily Stormer v. Google incoming?
skullmuffins
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Ignatz Mouse
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That was fast!
I wonder if the registration is automatic and they just reviewed it when the storm of complaints came in. I assume so.
Wow, that's bullshit.
Fenderputty
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He set a timeline though. So it wasn't some blanket lifetime get out of jail free card. Curious if that can be extended into basically a lifetime get out of jail free card though
Ignatz Mouse
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Yep.
I'm not sure it's really constitutional, but it provided enough of a "don't even bother to try" cover that I don't think there was any serious attempt to make a case against him.
VendettaRed07
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Does anyone know if he can't give out a get out of jail free card? Think he will try and do it regardless even if there is some implication he can't
Ignatz Mouse
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It made the story go away.
whyamihere
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It also made Ford's presidency go away.
Ford wouldn't have lasted regardless, the Nixon stink was too much.
The language of "good man" and "did great things for [thing i like]" can be repeated about lots of his cronies.
Aaron Strife
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Hot take: Democrats should go all-in on Doug Jones (Dem candidate for the Alabama Senate special election).
When the president's approval is creeping on 30 you can probably compete just about anywhere. And it's not like the DSCC will be doing much else this November.
When the president's approval is creeping on 30 you can probably compete just about anywhere. And it's not like the DSCC will be doing much else this November.
whyamihere
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Aaron Strife
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Dougie's going to have to win his own primary first though - he has the misfortune of going up against someone named Robert Kennedy Jr.
Should he prevail though, he could very well be (read: this has maybe a 5% chance of happening) the Democrats' Scott Brown. Consider that Obama won Massachusetts 62-36, not much different than Trump winning Alabama 64-35. What does an odd-year special election look like where the base is mellow on the president and the opposition is fucking pissed, while the incumbent party candidate is a hot mess and the challenging party candidate is a surprisingly good recruit in hostile territory?
Of course, Obama wasn't even all that unpopular in January 2010, and Alabama has a higher floor for the Democrats than Massachusetts does for the Republicans.
I don't think you can set out a post-pardon timeline. As in "past and future crimes".
That said, it's federal only, and we know that a lot of the players this time around are also looking at state financial crimes so even if some grand blanket pardon is given there could still be state prosecutions for ages. I just don't think there'd be appetite for "moving on" from this situation like I read there was for Nixon.
balladofwindfishes
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I totally expect some Scott Brown wacky shenanigans in 2018, which is why I'm not really going to completely stop thinking we'll win the Senate.
Bonen no Max'd
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This is disappointing, Bernie's whole job is to expand what's possible, falling back to compromise positions like the public option is ceding unnecessary ground when he should be working to build more electoral support for single payer.
shadow_shogun
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That's so damn wack and depressing. Gaddamn.
balladofwindfishes
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Bernie doesn't have time left in his career to do that. If he wants to see some kind of results in his life time, he needs to shift focus to stuff that will actually get done within the next 10-15 years or so, and not what could take an entire generation to shift opinion on.
You're not going to go from here to single payer, it's crazy to think it's possible. There's too many hurdles and it's good on Bernie for recognizing that progress doesn't happen all at once but in stages. He's going to be more effective doing stuff like this than anything else.
He probably decided that he has a chance to win the presidency and decided to start selling out in advance.
No but seriously, if everybody is going to view Bernie's bill as a template for the left, that puts a lot of pressure on him to make the bill realistic. That's what happens when you take the outsiders and tell them they're party leaders! Should have let him live in peace in the Vermont wilderness.
Aaron Strife
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I think he recognizes that if he's going all out for single-payer and not a farthing less, and Democrats simply pass a public option next time they're in power, he's set up the expectations game too high and the left is disillusioned yet again.
Perhaps that shouldn't be his role, but he's in cahoots with the establishment now, so I can understand him giving concerns like that greater consideration.
Unfortunately, he sold half a generation on promising Unicorns and now has to deflate the balloon he created without popping it.
What's her name?
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