RumbleHumble
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Hang in there man. Just stay vocal while staying safe. You're no good to anyone dead.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair
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Hang in there man. Just stay vocal while staying safe. You're no good to anyone dead.
smokeandmirrors
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not only that but slavery in the past was different from the chattel slavery we saw here. like way different
At this point the GOP would be better off booting Trump now before the Mueller probe irradiates half of Washington but they are obviously craven cowards.
The conversation is changing quickly even in PoliGAF if we're talking about showing up to protest marches with protective gear.
The conversation is changing quickly even in PoliGAF if we're talking about showing up to protest marches with protective gear.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
The only ones who can really absolve themselves of the situation are the ones who stopped supporting Trump immediately after he fired Comey.
The damage only grows now the longer they wait.
Aaron Strife
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Seems more likely than not to go to a runoff.
If anyone gets 50% or more there is no runoff. If not, the top two vote getters advance. So if Strange finishes third or Moore/Brooks (lol) gets 50%, he's done.
StopMakingSense
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You know, a full GOP press on Trump resigning, then allowing Mueller to finish his investigation and subsequently dump legal hellfire on Trump to bury him as much as they can with the rank and file, might be the best course of actions politically for Republicans.
ShadowSwordmaster
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It feels like a week went by but it's only been a couple of days.
Dubbedinenglish
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TBH I don't know but there were dozens (over 100 I think) of tribes across America so probably part of one's customs maybe.
smokeandmirrors
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Yep. They can so easily wash their hands of this.
But that also assumes no one else is complicit and at this point there is no way it doesn't stop at trumps circle.
Weird how this somewhat predictable Trump behavior has become a tipping point. In a way I think Trump tower made him overconfident.
Kelly resign now you useless traitor enabling fuck.
Congress this is your last and only chance and I already know you're too shit and craven to take it.
Kelly resign now you useless traitor enabling fuck.
Congress this is your last and only chance and I already know you're too shit and craven to take it.
BlastProcessing
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*runs*
In light of this important and new information, I propose that we immediately rename the Washington Redskins the Washington Slave Owners.
ShadowSwordmaster
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I hope so.
balladofwindfishes
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I like how acting like a Nazi for a year and a half was no big deal, but back that behavior up by not condemning Nazi terrorist attacks and you've gone too far.
Nothing will change so long as they can justify a tax cut and controlling the capital.
Plus they have Fox News and people cultural locked in in rural and suburban america.
Spoiled Milk
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Oh, you know, sorry, I meant a few specific kinds of protesting, not targeted civil organizing in general. My mind keeps flashing back to this bar/pizza-place I used to go to (not anymore, because they're) run by a racist family transplanted from Chicago to Sacramento. There was a protest on the news (I forget the subject; either it was a shooting of an unarmed black man or it was something Trump related) that was blocking a highway and the people running the joint all start fantasizing about running them all over with their huge trucks and SUVs, bodies bouncing off windshields etc. So in the context of fireworker, yeah: the only way I see his life being endangered is if he participates in functionally useless sign waving contest that just irritates normal people and paints a target on his back.
I think Charlottesville was obviously the best example of community organizing in recent memory. I had a lot written after that sentence about why I thought it was the best example but it's easier for me just to point to Saul Alinksy's Rules for Radicals. I don't think you've read this before and I recommend it highly.
Electric Eye
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Careful, you're falling for it.
Futurevoid
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.....and this is when he's on vacation. #relaxing
Dubbedinenglish
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The Mohammad bit is also disingenuous, Islam calls for freeing slaves and paying people for labor immediately and fairly. Before conversion he did own slaves like most others at the time. Islam even celebrates the first converted Muslim as a freed slave.
I am actually happy Paris is on the panel, because everyone is making him look like the biggest fucking idiot.
i don't think the gop will do anything besides grimace privately and release statements with varying amounts of tepidity - this is what most of their remaining base wants to hear
they'll wait until it's too late after the Mueller investigation hits critical mass, and all their deflections and desperate attempts to claim any less than awful moment as a sign of how presidential trump is becoming over the course of the presidency will cement them as the party of trump
they'll wait until it's too late after the Mueller investigation hits critical mass, and all their deflections and desperate attempts to claim any less than awful moment as a sign of how presidential trump is becoming over the course of the presidency will cement them as the party of trump
AntraxSuicide
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I've got an autobiography of a Native American guy who's grandfather (I think) was captured in a battle and was gonna be a slave. He got free and stole a bunch of horses on his way out, which was a story he passed down.
But like, that was over a century ago. I'll have to see if I still have the book.
Finale Fireworker
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This is something I was talking about earlier today. I was asked, "did what he said today surprise you in any way?" And I said no. So they asked "then why is today different from yesterday?"
And I don't know the exact answer, but I think it's a combination of two things.
The first is that, despite everything, there is a part of me that doesn't think things can possibly keep getting worse. Deep down, there is this latent optimism - disguised as cynicism - that things have gotten bad enough and we can only go up from here. So when Trump crosses a new line, or sinks to a new low, that shock never ceases to stupify. After weeks of bumbling idiocy and incompetency, an unapprehensive triple down on white supremacy somehow feels like a break from pattern towards something more sinister. I've become so incredibly desensitized to the chaos that, when I have a moment of lucidity, I can barely process how far we have come.
The second thing is that lunatics and nationalists are at maximum pressure. They are eager and hungry for violence. They feel like this is there time and they have a green light to enact their hatred on a scale not attempted in our lifetimes. And about this thing in particular, I have no stomach for Trump's fire-stoking. It is one thing to suffer your president being a malignant imbecile, it is another to know he is actively encouraging violence on a national stage.
But then again, that's not new either.
So maybe it's not actually two different things, it's just one: the constant disbelief that this is America now.
Abinash117
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Why wouldn't it be? Native Americans weren't a unified monolith. Some tribes hated other tribes, but I don't think it exactly the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave..._States#Traditions_of_Native_American_slavery
http://americanhistory.oxfordre.com...199329175.001.0001/acrefore-9780199329175-e-5
http://www.vocativ.com/usa/race/five-things-probably-dont-know-descendants-cherokees-black-slaves/
http://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry.php?entry=SL002
Seems like Cherokees owned slaves too and then expelled the some of the decedents from the tribe in 2011.
http://www.npr.org/2011/09/19/140594124/u-s-government-opposes-cherokee-nations-decision
Off the top of my head, Chinook and I think Lummi practiced it in the PNW.
I'd really like to know if this story about weapons caches around Charlottesville is true.
https://twitter.com/kristinrawls/status/897621132853080064
Seems if it was it would be a huge story.
https://twitter.com/kristinrawls/status/897621132853080064
Seems if it was it would be a huge story.
RustyNails
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Bakari preachh
Aaron Strife
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The good news in Alabama is that it looks like Doug Jones, the favored Democratic candidate, looks to avoid a runoff. It's a very, very long shot but better to have a good candidate in an unwinnable race than a bad one.
ErasureAcer
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She lists the source material and links to it!
https://getcrookedmedia.com/pod-save-the-people-56bc42af53d
8-14-17 episode DeRay talks to the Governor of VA.
*runs*
Will someone rip this prick's fucking toupee off already
For some reason I thought they were doing a jungle primary.
exmachina64
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Republicans will still be underfunding education. Ask the average person to tell you about Herbert Hoover.
Resident_UA
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Wait, what point is he trying to make?! LOL
*runs*
Aaron Strife
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Ds and Rs have separate primaries, but the same rules - Jones looks to be well above 50%.
LOL. So basically they all know he's a damn racist but they're thankful he'd never yet admitted it in public.
I'm hoping that someone significant in the republican party communication structure is going to reach their breaking point and quit. There was this guy today, but he's not part of the party/admin officially. He's the former RNC comms director and now does CNN stuff:
I'm hoping that someone significant in the republican party communication structure is going to reach their breaking point and quit. There was this guy today, but he's not part of the party/admin officially. He's the former RNC comms director and now does CNN stuff:
It's also mentioned in this Guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/14/donald-trump-charlottesville-response-washington
No, I know that, but if it is as significant as it sounds, why isn't getting any coverage?
Abinash117
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Luckily, the murderer didn't die. Maybe he can spill the beans. If this is true that they had larger plans than Trump is going to be in much, much deeper water.
UberTag
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Remember back when we thought August would be a pleasant break from Trump shenanigans because he would be golfing all day and just tweeting passive aggressively at Mitch and McCain and other Republicans because they can't give him a win in the Senate. We could all take a break from politics and focus on enjoying life. Watch a little Game of Thrones. Play a little Sonic. Not having to stress over anything.
Those were good times.
whyamihere
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To even have a shot at AL Sen, Dems need:
1) Doug Jones to win
2) Roy Moore to win
1 just happened. 2 is possible. Could be a runoff. But Doug Jones is a strong recruit. Still an outside shot but we have to try. 50 states.
1) Doug Jones to win
2) Roy Moore to win
1 just happened. 2 is possible. Could be a runoff. But Doug Jones is a strong recruit. Still an outside shot but we have to try. 50 states.
MetalGearZed
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"It wasn't just whites, guys. Everyone was bad. Minorities aren't so innocent."
i could imagine. i didn't watch that shit
RustyNails
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Yeah it's disingenuous. Prophet Muhammad owned a slave Zayd Ibn Harith, who was a boy gifted to him by his wife (before he started mission). Muhammad adopted Zayd as his own son and gave him inheritance rights. He personally freed slaves, and his companions bought slaves just to free them.
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