A big thing that fucked everything up though with the negative stuff about trump was the media in trying to be "fair" tried to equivalent everything he did with something Hillary did when the candidates were on entirely separate moral planes. Basically the media made all trumps transgressions equal to Hillary's. This basically negated the negative campaign tactic.
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A big thing that fucked everything up though with the negative stuff about trump was the media in trying to be "fair" tried to equivalent everything he did with something Hillary did when the candidates were on entirely separate moral planes. Basically the media made all trumps transgressions equal to Hillary's. This basically negated the negative campaign tactic.
neurosisxeno
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God. Between Charlottesville and Trump's reaction to Boston today, this has to be the worst week or so for a President in quite a while...
Yeah, and it not just negated the attacks, but I think backfired on Hillary immensely. When news stations and papers are equating what you've done with emails (which the previous Republican administration's Secretary of Defense also did) with what someone who grabs women by the pussy does, you've got a problem.
The media generally - and some institutions specifically more than others - absolutely lost their moral compass.
Spoiled Milk
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you know, I guess Pat Buchanan's culture war really did happen.
Further to my point about tarring all Republicans with the Trump brush...
Where Republican senators stand on President Trump
Most are true neutral, or lean positive.
Where Republican senators stand on President Trump
Most are true neutral, or lean positive.
Spoiled Milk
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speaking of pat I just found the best mclaughin group video
BlastProcessing
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Spoiled Milk
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Lol. As peculiar as that exchange was he was operating on an entirely different wavelength from everyone else. Fun program to watch.
Deuce Deuce
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He'll be sure to top this week sooner than you'd expect.
RustyNails
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VendettaRed07
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You mean what if Hillary selected a VP that actually served the purpose of helping solidify support from the base of the party that Hillary was weak with
Nah. Wouldn't made a difference at all.
But seriously yeah. Pence actually did that. He was a quality VP selection that helped legitimize Trump with a large part of the republican base. Hillary should have done the same. Kaine did literally nothing for her and the selection said nothing other than Hillary believing that 90s political rules still applied
You Know Nothing
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Up next, he tweets a string of racial slurs and then pretends he never did.
He just misspelled naggers, that's why he deleted it. That's all!
The country will heel if we stop naggers. Stop nagging!
BoogieWoogie
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Ivanka tweeting out about how good it is to see people protesting.
God damn this fucking family.
God damn this fucking family.
I don't actually think this tops agreeing with Nazi terrorists.
if you do it "right" you can agree with nazis in polite company. Slurs though, granny might blush.
You Know Nothing
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I mean good point. I don't know what tops that.
She must live in the fucking twilight zone where her family is loved by all.
VendettaRed07
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I think it does. Actually saying the N word will be harder for right wing news outlets to spin than some sort of general off kilter interview in which they can better control the narative/ point they claim Trump was trying to make.
But then again even if there is a N word drop by Trump they'll probably just replay that time Obama said it over and over and dismiss it that way.
I dislike even the idea of some people thinking she is an advocate for liberal policies in this administration. She is as bad as the rest.
You Know Nothing
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I guess my line of (somewhat inebriated) reasoning is largely this. But I'm ultimately not sure of how much of Trump's steadfast 35 could actually be swayed by his using blunt racial slurs.
shinra-bansho
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Dems in disarray, not fundraising enough, no monies.
Dems in disarray, spending all their time fundraising instead of ropelining.
Money no longer matters in politics, look at Trump.
Citizens United is the most important issue in politics.
Dems in disarray, spending all their time fundraising instead of ropelining.
Money no longer matters in politics, look at Trump.
Citizens United is the most important issue in politics.
You should post this in that thread.
RumbleHumble
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She's just so proud of herself after her "contribution" to removing Bannon.
On a scale from zero to Keith Ellison, how much are the neo-libs getting called out?
I'll say zero, because a) very few replies, b)nobody, is able to actually qualify what those fundraising values mean in practice.
Deuce Deuce
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And hand wringers tell us that the best course of action is to protest somewhere else.
VendettaRed07
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It's a Bonen out of 10
Bonen no Max'd
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not sure how to feel about this tbh
There's no need to rank the Trumps on a scale of awfulness, but Ivanka is just....I just.....I can't. It's just soooo infuriating on its own special level.
*Trump says something completely awful*
*Don Jr. parrots the completely awful thing*
*Eric parrots the completely awful thing*
Ivanka: "The Trump family stands in proud opposition to that awful thing, and have love for all, obviously
. Thanks for the kind words everyone ."Like why. Why. WHY EVEN BOTHER.
VendettaRed07
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There's no need to rank the Trumps on a scale of awfulness, but Ivanka is just....I just.....I can't. It's just soooo infuriating on its own special level.
*Trump says something completely awful*
*Don Jr. parrots the completely awful thing*
*Eric parrots the completely awful thing*
Ivanka: "The Trump family stands in proud opposition to that awful thing, and have love for all, obviously
Like why. Why. WHY EVEN BOTHER.
Because it works and people on the news keep saying shes a great person and a positive influence on Trump, and none of them are willing to criticize her or point out how it's totally stupid that she says that her dad feels and thinks things he clearly doesn't
You Know Nothing
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There's no need to rank the Trumps on a scale of awfulness, but Ivanka is just....I just.....I can't. It's just soooo infuriating on its own special level.
*Trump says something completely awful*
*Don Jr. parrots the completely awful thing*
*Eric parrots the completely awful thing*
Ivanka: "The Trump family stands in proud opposition to that awful thing, and have love for all, obviously
Like why. Why. WHY EVEN BOTHER.
Ivanka would have just abandoned her father if she had any dignity. Instead she helped get him elected and then turns around and pretends to be a Liberal Icon. Tragic.
What's tragic is that it works.
Even on GAF you'll see people who typically take a hard line on the Trumps go out of their way to white knight her.
She's aware of her privilege and goes out of her way to exploit it. Moreso than any of her siblings.
ShadowSwordmaster
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I feel like every week we are back to square one with the Democratic party.
Edit: It's late and I need coffee.
Edit: It's late and I need coffee.
Spoiled Milk
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The democrat party
I must have missed it.
What happened in Boston today? His tweet seemed rather benign. Did he say something else?
I was expecting at least two more turns before it got obvious.
Calling 40,000 people anti-police agitators is benign?
cartoon_soldier
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Wait, what happened with Trump and Boston today?
VendettaRed07
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Sadly it probably is comparatively
Not thread-worthy, and only somewhat related to politics, really, but...
The NYTimes chief book critic Michiko Kakutani has left the paper (been pushed out, nearly).
That, in itself, is interesting for a view into the NYT as it stands now, and as it moves forwards pushing more into digital and newspaper-consumer interactions. But in addition, that article links to two non-review pieces by Kakutani, which may have been missed at the time.
Donald Trump's Chilling Language, and the Fearsome Power of Words and Transcript: President Obama on What Books Mean to Him. Both interesting reads, and even moreso when you consider that "she signed a multiple-book deal with Crown's Tim Duggan Books. The first book, published next year, will be a controversial political book of her own, a cultural history of ”alternative facts" titled The Death of Truth.".
The NYTimes chief book critic Michiko Kakutani has left the paper (been pushed out, nearly).
That, in itself, is interesting for a view into the NYT as it stands now, and as it moves forwards pushing more into digital and newspaper-consumer interactions. But in addition, that article links to two non-review pieces by Kakutani, which may have been missed at the time.
Donald Trump's Chilling Language, and the Fearsome Power of Words and Transcript: President Obama on What Books Mean to Him. Both interesting reads, and even moreso when you consider that "she signed a multiple-book deal with Crown's Tim Duggan Books. The first book, published next year, will be a controversial political book of her own, a cultural history of ”alternative facts" titled The Death of Truth.".
Nah, never normalizing this shit.
I'd say it's thread worthy. It's pretty big news in the world of literature.
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Basically he started calling out "anti-police agitators" in boston, not so subtly criticizing the anti-nazi side of the protests, then moved onto "divided country", then finally congratulating the anti-nazi side.
Just like the charlottesville incident, the first statement is what counts, and you can't get a redo on it an hour later. Even if he started with the right statement, there's never a good time to criticize peaceful anti-nazi protests.
Fair. Just posted the thread in OT. Also,
Probably Hillary's book on the 2016 election.
Spoiled Milk
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Yeah, if Zuckerberg even thinks about running, it better not be as a Democrat.
IIRC this is a way bigger issue for Booker than Zuckerberg cause the funds got wasted.
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