In all honesty, I'll be surprised if they don't pass it in 2018 before the elections. I'm pretty sure most are more worried about the repercussions in mid-terms of not repealing Obamacare than repealing it.
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In all honesty, I'll be surprised if they don't pass it in 2018 before the elections. I'm pretty sure most are more worried about the repercussions in mid-terms of not repealing Obamacare than repealing it.
If it doesn't pass now, I don't see it coming up again for real until 2020. You can't have control of all three branches, not pass a bill, and then say that that's your focal point going into the midterms.
RustyNails
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I wouldnt rule it out, but McCain has been strangely fixated on regular order for a while.
Shooting down Skinny and voting for this is maybe too much hypocrisy for him to handle.
Spoiled Milk
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a christmas carol effect
aspiegamer
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That's what I mean. Going into the last vote these parliamentarian issues were entirely ignored and the bill as-was was put up with a 50 vote requirement.
Widdle Puppy
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Wait, so why the hell was Rand Paul a yes on the last senate stab at Obamacare repeal but now he is back to being a no?
Should we have anything to worry about if Rand, Murkowski and Collins stay on the no side?
Should we have anything to worry about if Rand, Murkowski and Collins stay on the no side?
Because he's not really a no.
We'll probably have to do this again early next year first. The ACA is not safe as long as Republicans control Congress, and many Republicans are going to be afraid of even harder right conservative primary challengers.
His position last time was that he would only vote for skinny repeal if McConnell put full repeal on the floor for a vote first. Whether you buy that, well...
Aaron Strife
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Quinnipiac brings good tidings for Virginia
https://poll.qu.edu/virginia/release-detail?ReleaseID=2486
Ralph Northam (D) 51
Ed Gillespie (R) 41
Donald Trump
Approve 39
Disapprove 58
Terry McAuliffe
Approve 56
Disapprove 37
A 10-point lead seems a bit gaudy to me - I personally think Northam will win by 5-6 points. All the tied surveys we're seeing lately are simply on the other end of the outlier spectrum.
That being said, IF these numbers held up and IF Democrats in the House of Delegates elections tracked closely to Northam's numbers, we might have a decent chance at winning the House or at least making double-digit gains.
https://poll.qu.edu/virginia/release-detail?ReleaseID=2486
Ralph Northam (D) 51
Ed Gillespie (R) 41
Donald Trump
Approve 39
Disapprove 58
Terry McAuliffe
Approve 56
Disapprove 37
A 10-point lead seems a bit gaudy to me - I personally think Northam will win by 5-6 points. All the tied surveys we're seeing lately are simply on the other end of the outlier spectrum.
That being said, IF these numbers held up and IF Democrats in the House of Delegates elections tracked closely to Northam's numbers, we might have a decent chance at winning the House or at least making double-digit gains.
BoogieWoogie
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Picture of John Kelly from Trump's UN speech:
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
He will be a yes by the time a vote happens.
Mark Andrew
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Picture of John Kelly from Trump's UN speech:
This has been his default expression since taking the job. Haley and Tillerson werent really having it either.
Picture of John Kelly from Trump's UN speech:
He looks how we all feel.
CrimzonSamurai
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The bar is set so low I actually thought the UN Speech sounded almost normal. I only caught the last 5 minutes though.
whyamihere
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Internals are tighter for Dems but also better than Suffolk. More in line with +5-6.
AntraxSuicide
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As much as VA is moving in our direction, I think it'll always have a high republican floor.
Yep, still lots of rural red in VA. You don't have to go much more than 30 minutes outside of Richmond before seeing churches with "God hates gays" signs posted along the road.
I think it's more of a Sweet November, personally
Or even that random poster in a field on 295 North in Mechaniscville that's always thanking R reps (but during the past election season cycled between local and Trump stuff). Pretty tame what's up there on the Google Street View right now though.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.570...4!1smjz4MS-hDJ2l3M3WS95i7A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Dominican Power
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WTF is Lindsay Grahm talking about
VendettaRed07
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So the Red Wings opened up their new stadium in Detroit a few days ago.
Guess who played a show at the grand opening ceremony. Kid Rock of course.
Selling "Kid Rock for Senate", shirts everywhere, and opened a Kid Rock restaurant across from the stadium.
Putting in work already.
Fuck the Red Wings
Guess who played a show at the grand opening ceremony. Kid Rock of course.
Selling "Kid Rock for Senate", shirts everywhere, and opened a Kid Rock restaurant across from the stadium.
Putting in work already.
Fuck the Red Wings
He called Kim Jong Un Rocketman.
I am 100% certain he was in the Whitehouse last night and either heard or thought up Rocketman, said to his hangers on, Thats pretty good huh? ROCKETMAN! Im gonna tweet it! And they said, yes, thats hilarious sir. You are a wag.
Then he decided this was also a good thing to say. To the UN.
RumbleHumble
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This moving forward?
On Kelly's first day Bannon and Spicer put super glue on his hand when he dozed off in the Oval Office. It's been stuck here ever since.Picture of John Kelly from Trump's UN speech:
JUST A PRANK BRO
Mark Andrew
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Schumer is a total goof but hes really good.
Sadly, I think this bill ends up passing.
Sadly, I think this bill ends up passing.
Spoiled Milk
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The difference is that when Chuck Schumer gets out of the taxi, he's carrying a tin of butterscotch candies.
whyamihere
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FEDERALISM
Futurevoid
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LMAO!
...and if you're not? Your health insurance coverage is "don't get sick or hurt".
balladofwindfishes
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Medicaid work requirement?
Aren't most people on Medicaid elderly, disabled or children?
Aren't most people on Medicaid elderly, disabled or children?
Futurevoid
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Also...
AntraxSuicide
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Spoiled Milk
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Medicare is for the elderly, Medicaid is for the destitute. I think there are separate programs for kids.
nature boy
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So does Cheeto have to sign the bill before the 30th or just pass both the Senate and House?
Children are 40% of Medicaid.
Yes.
One can be both elderly and destitute, and millions of older Americans rely on benefits they get from Medicaid which Medicare does not cover.
whyamihere
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these people suck.
Good lord republicans are such hypocritical fucks
STATES RIGHTS*
*except when we don't like it!
balladofwindfishes
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Medicaid is also for the elderly. Aid has better end of life support than care.
My grandpa uses Medicaid, not Medicare, because it's better suited for his needs.
Spoiled Milk
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Metaphorically, yes.
Futurevoid
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Be curious to see how well that works out in practice if it does reach the House.
Spoiled Milk
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Ok I was thinking of CHIP but CHIP is administered through Medicaid. So the more you know.
Randolph Freelander
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At least you're starting to know that you don't know.
Spoiled Milk
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whatever socrates it wont last. i killed liz, i killed the teen dream, get over it.
I think just the Senate has to pass it, since Sept. 30 is the reconciliation deadline, which has no bearing on the House.
BoogieWoogie
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Palin and Gorka are going to hold a rally for Alabama's Moore against Luther Strange.
Let them fight.
Let them fight.
Fenderputty
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If the reconciliation dead line passes and they fuck up healthcare again, does that mean they can't use reconciliation for tax overhaul/budget stuff?
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