Widdle Puppy
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LMAO
I bet Chuck knows how to play Trump like a fiddle. He has a ton of experience dealing with wall street type people.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT6| Made this thread during Harvey because the ratings would be higher
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LMAO
I bet Chuck knows how to play Trump like a fiddle. He has a ton of experience dealing with wall street type people.
No mention of healthcare in that. Unless it falls under 'all' or it's not happening.
Futurevoid
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Irma related but...
Holy shit.
Also, McConnell being interviewed...
He also said that's exactly what he would be offering as per the President - a combined 3 month continuing resolution, debt ceiling and Harvey relief.
Holy shit.
Also, McConnell being interviewed...
He also said that's exactly what he would be offering as per the President - a combined 3 month continuing resolution, debt ceiling and Harvey relief.
nature boy
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How useless is Ivanka at this point?
BoogieWoogie
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The ironic thing is that if they had punted Trump and put in Pence, they would have had a way better chance of getting the shit they wanted. Oh well, enjoy your slow demise GOP
He's buddies with Graham, of course he's going to support it. I don't think that repeal effort is going to go ahead though, they're almost out of time to do anything and they have way too much on their plate now to try to go back to that losing effort of repeal.
Aaron Strife
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Easy - the GOP wanted to attach all sorts of extraneous shit to a debt ceiling increase. Now we have more time to debate the issue.
balladofwindfishes
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"This isn't a fight worth having with the DACA crisis and multiple hurricanes going on"
Nobody in America understands what the debt ceiling is or what raising it means. Otherwise they would support eliminating it!
Trump falls into this category. When you elect somebody with utter indifference to policy and politics, you run the risk of them getting bored and choosing stuff that's bad policy and politics in order to get out of the meeting.
So the 18 month increase had a bunch of Republican wish list stuff attached? The idea being give the democrats a short term increase/CR/Harvey and then try to corner them on a longer term increase and DACA in 3 mos when the hurricanes have quieted down?
"Look guys! I'm still a good Republican! What? We don't have enough time for this? Oh nooo... ¯\_(ツ
_/¯"nature boy
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Lol. Regular order is ok to be discarded if it's on legislation HE likes!
Expect this or something like it to pass this year or next. It's going to one way or another.
There really is a tweet for every topic. Marvelous.
Aaron Strife
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If they manage to pass an ACA stabilization bill, I think that takes the wind out of the sails of an earnest repeal/replace effort pretty hard.
That and DREAM are probably the only major policy concessions we can get from the Republicans while being in the minority, other than just stopping heinous shit from going through.
whyamihere
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Chuck & Nancy
The fact that he's frequently kind of clever makes his otherwise wilful stupidity all the more nefarious and creepy.
whyamihere
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When Dems said they'd be open to working with Trump after he was elected, I didn't realize it was almost exclusively going to be on their terms.
Then they better get that stabilization bill passed...
Finale Fireworker
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Nobody puts Nancy in a corner.
Aaron Strife
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I have to admit I was very skeptical of Schumer at first, but he's been great at this. I think he'll be a great Majority Leader if he's given the opportunity.
Just give me one Democratic presidential term in 2020 with these two busting heads.
Literally every Ivanka story has her "randomly walking in" on meetings or interviews. Like, does Trump like her walking in like this? Thinks it's some "pretty girl power play", or is she just nosy?
I just always picture her coming in like Marty's daughter in BttF2.
Greigor The Fellhand
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I just imagine Pelsoi walking in grabbing trump by the balls and saying
Pelosi:" your signing this, you say one word. one. and I rip of left jr here"
Trump:" okay okay" signs paper
after pelsoi leaves
trump smiles and feels excited, then gets confused and jumps int he brietbart pool to feel better
Pelosi:" your signing this, you say one word. one. and I rip of left jr here"
Trump:" okay okay" signs paper
after pelsoi leaves
trump smiles and feels excited, then gets confused and jumps int he brietbart pool to feel better
hahahaaaa
Good lord I'm losing it at work.
whyamihere
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OMG
Don't know why I'm having a sneaking suspicion that Trump might push congress to pass Dream Act. Have nothing to back it up but he hasn't really sounded committed on kicking out Dreamers. It would be a "win" too, which ultimately is all he cares about.
Haha some pic.
Haha some pic.
Greigor The Fellhand
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SChumer:
"who's a good DOnnie?
Who's a good donnie?
Did the good Donnie sign the budget?
did he?
Your a good donnie"
jack_package_200
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Jesus H Christ
nature boy
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So Bannon will be on 60 minutes and Charlie Rose
Cheeto ain't gonna be happy
Cheeto ain't gonna be happy
ShadowSwordmaster
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Holy shit.
BoogieWoogie
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HAHAHAHAHA
I still cannot get over the fact Ted Cruz was one of the lead guys who helped organize that particular event.
Maybe Ted Cruz is a prototype of a deep learning organism?
whyamihere
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THIS PAST PAGE
I CAN'T BREATHE
I CAN'T BREATHE
balladofwindfishes
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AI rights are going to be a whole big ordeal when we need to cross that bridge.
aspiegamer
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We sorta lucked into Schumer coming to the top precisely when the only personality that knows how to deal with Trump is another NYC blowhard. Being able so schmooze up the President is a nice hidden power while in the minority.
PantherLotus
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more to the point, any political win that lets chuck n' nancy hold the debate on their terms ('you really gonna cut the budget for ___ right now?) in public and bleeds the opposition while running out the clock on Trump before he's indicted.
this is not a small win. 3 months might be the difference.
this is not a small win. 3 months might be the difference.
A Harry Reid-Trump relationship would have been totally different, that's for sure.
jack_package_200
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But guyssss, we need to get rid of Chuck and Nancy for the sake of newnessss!!!
Aaron Strife
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Saw an article today about Forward Majority, a new PAC focusing on flipping state legislatures starting with Virginia this November and got me thinking about it.
This is what the state legislatures look like as of today (yellow means split control):
(Note: Alaska House has a coalition government made up of 17 Democrats, 3 Republicans and 2 Independents to 18 Republicans. The Speaker and Majority Leader are both Democrats)
This is what I want it to look like after the 2020 elections:
You get this result by:
+3 seats in the Arizona Senate
+1 seat in the Colorado Senate
+5 seats in the Florida Senate
+6 seats in the Iowa Senate
+1 seat in the Maine Senate
+9 seats in the Michigan House of Representatives
+11 seats in the Minnesota House of Representatives, +1 seat in the Minnesota Senate
+28 seats in the New Hampshire House of Representatives, +3 in the New Hampshire Senate
+8 seats in the New York Senate (we actually have a nominal majority here, so alternatively we just get our shit together and welcome the IDC and Simcha Felder back into the fold)
+17 seats in the Virginia House of Delegates, +1 in the Virginia Senate
+1 seat in the Washington Senate (same deal as New York, except it's just one turncoat Democrat ruining everything, we can actually win this chamber back in November)
+4 seats in the Wisconsin Senate
That's right, just winning 99 races between now and 2020 gives us total control in 7 more states (Colorado, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New York, Virginia and Washington) while forcing the GOP to go halfsies with us in 5 (Arizona, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin). With the exception of Arizona we've held all of these chambers within the last decade.
This is ignoring gubernatorial control as well, which means we can stake out some power even in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania which are gerrymandered beyond salvation.
This is what the state legislatures look like as of today (yellow means split control):
(Note: Alaska House has a coalition government made up of 17 Democrats, 3 Republicans and 2 Independents to 18 Republicans. The Speaker and Majority Leader are both Democrats)
This is what I want it to look like after the 2020 elections:
You get this result by:
+3 seats in the Arizona Senate
+1 seat in the Colorado Senate
+5 seats in the Florida Senate
+6 seats in the Iowa Senate
+1 seat in the Maine Senate
+9 seats in the Michigan House of Representatives
+11 seats in the Minnesota House of Representatives, +1 seat in the Minnesota Senate
+28 seats in the New Hampshire House of Representatives, +3 in the New Hampshire Senate
+8 seats in the New York Senate (we actually have a nominal majority here, so alternatively we just get our shit together and welcome the IDC and Simcha Felder back into the fold)
+17 seats in the Virginia House of Delegates, +1 in the Virginia Senate
+1 seat in the Washington Senate (same deal as New York, except it's just one turncoat Democrat ruining everything, we can actually win this chamber back in November)
+4 seats in the Wisconsin Senate
That's right, just winning 99 races between now and 2020 gives us total control in 7 more states (Colorado, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New York, Virginia and Washington) while forcing the GOP to go halfsies with us in 5 (Arizona, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin). With the exception of Arizona we've held all of these chambers within the last decade.
This is ignoring gubernatorial control as well, which means we can stake out some power even in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania which are gerrymandered beyond salvation.
Third Strike
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Related, but Deus Ex has always made me wonder if augmentation rights could one day be a big issue. Especially if we get to the point where augmentations could allow a person to do things your ordinary person couldn't, or the fear of weapon mods.
Box of Kittens
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Illinois looks so lonely in that first map
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