GHG
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Some of them went to twitter and told the world they were popping bottles in celebration of this release, so yeh...
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Redfall | Review Thread
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Some of them went to twitter and told the world they were popping bottles in celebration of this release, so yeh...
Crispy Gamer
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GHG
Gold Member
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/redfall-review-thread.1656062/post-267900425
I genuinely think my wife would slap me before I even had a chance to open that bottle.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Ummm surprisingly that's actually a really good video
Would be so kind to summarise dude? I don’t want to watch his videos. Thank you.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Am I missing something here, Microsoft are the publisher and own the studio. So who’s decision is it to release the game?
GHG
Gold Member
It's bullshit. If they can tell them to cancel the PS5 version then why can't they tell them to fix their game before releasing it? So you're trying to tell me they have no internal approval process that decides whether or not a game is ready to ship? Anyone can literally just tell them something is gold and then it comes to market and there's no process surrounding that?
These cuck shills need to wake up and face the music.
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geary
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Bethesda is the publisher, but still....don't know what the fuck happened at Arkane, but something really bad must happen to develop a game 5 years and release it in this state...
digoutyoursoul
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Gudji
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Lokaum D+
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i can at least play SR offline and at 60ps, so Redfall is the bigger shit
Phase
Member
That's how a large chunk of people live nowadays. No criticism allowed, even for mediocre work. They can't take it.
R6Rider
Gold Member
I'd rather play Saints Row honestly.
ToadMan
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Pimpollo818
Member
Redfall b/c that team made Prey prior
Crispy Gamer
Member
He was honest about Series X first party output over this generation being lackluster and was actually honest about the Series X hardware being outperformed by PS 5 this generation an admission I found surprising coming from a shill like him. He called out Microsoft always showing PC footage gameplay and not showing Series X. Having no games with RT from first party unlike Sony etc. He said a lot of stuff that surprised me I didn't agree with everything but at least he seemed to be honest about his frustration because a lot of his points I feel the same way. Xbox can't get better with shills I'm tired of people like him making excuses but this was a rare come to Jesus moment hopefully he don't backslide lol
No it's more in the middle between AA & AAA game. Same as Deathloop really, which was way smaller in scope that previous Arkane outings (but was pretty smart in sort of hiding it).
Bethesda must have force Arkane to work with lower budgets than their previous games.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You asked me a pure hypothetical question about what if game pass wasn't a thing and then say I was wrong.
Relax warrior, you already got plenty material here without needing to create artificial scenarios in your head.
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geary
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My 2 cents is this is the hand of Zenimax. They were in a dire situation financially and first they rushed their first live service, in Fallout 76 hoping they will get a piece of the live service pie. Probably, around the same time, asked Arkane to make a live service as well and Redfall was planned, but took way to much time and due to their finances, MS stepped in and bought Zenimax. Now Redfall is in development and MS do not want a live service game and the asked Arkane to make a 180 degree turn and make it a single player (thus the microtransaction store removed, always online to be removed etc), but this pushed back a lot the development and that's why Redfall was delayed last year, hoping that the live service backbone was removed. Due to the lack of 1st party games, MS could not wait another few years to make Redfall a good single player experience and decided to have it released in this bad state, so that can move Arkane to another project where they shine, immersive sim. I think this was a calculate decision by MS and they took the fall for it, just they could move on.
ZoukGalaxy
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digoutyoursoul
Member
Yeah as a Xbox fan I’m tired of the likes of him and Corden. Their minions too labelling everyone Sony fanboys for being critical.
Appreciate the summary mate. Thank you.
AltogetherAndrews
Banned
But then you’re also well known for your shit taste.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
Yeah because bethesda and arkane are the same devs.
What a moron.
This is like saying, oh no days gone was ok at best, i'm worried for the next gow...
Alebrije
Member
Redfall: STELT SIMULATOR ver. 2.0
FrankWza
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The A. I. was though. I've only seen redfall on videos but Deathloop was far more polished overall. Returnal was the far better game. Not even close
ChorizoPicozo
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both got delayed in the same PR statement. Bethesda is know for buggy and poor performance.
and is not only him.
even Xbox shills are worried. that's how bad MS/Xbox/Bethesda-Zenimax's reputations are.
XXL
Member
It's not for that reason.
Multiple people, multiple places are saying Starfield is in bad shape and wont be ready for launch. This was before and after Redfall launched.
It could be bullshit, but there is a ton of smoke.
Tiago Rodrigues
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I find it hard to believe MS is buying publishers and has little to no input in game delays from those same publishers.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Yes, exactly, bethesda is famous for games with shitty gameplay and poor optimization, well before the M acquisition, not sure why people are worried NOW when redfall and arkane have nothing to with the people who make starfield, you should be scared of anything coming out from bethesda no matter if redfall exist or M pay the bills.
The shills are just speaking because redfall was worse than they thought and they are trying to do damage control by faking to be on the part of the gamers and not their overlords, it is all performative bullshit.
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fart town usa
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Xbox stans shitting on Ghostwire when it launched for PS5 and then proceeded to shit on it when released on gamepass a few weeks back but yet they somehow managed to find excuses for this flaming piece of shit.
Some of you are just embarrassing. Get your head out of your ass.
Some of you are just embarrassing. Get your head out of your ass.
Captain Toad
Banned
It runs significantly better on PC. The issue there is it's still just a bad game.
But, no, the haters aren't just Sony fans. It's the opposite. There are just a few people pretending Redfall is a decent game and they are exactly the people you'd expect. People who weren't going to admit the game was bad, no matter what, in fear that might harm Xbox.
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ChorizoPicozo
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everything is performative in the PR world.
as i said before:
content(Executives + Influencers + minions) = narrative.
this narrative is all because MS incompetence. Bethesda is just a victim of it.
Zadom
Member
Disappointed in how this game seems to have turned out. I enjoy open world games where you can use stealth. I also think I would like the setting. I thought I might re up on game pass which I tried for a few months earlier this year, to try it.
I am sad for Arkane, I loved Arx Fatalis years ago. If they can fix the issues I will probably give it a go, but heck, I still haven’t given Cyberpunk a chance yet.
I am sad for Arkane, I loved Arx Fatalis years ago. If they can fix the issues I will probably give it a go, but heck, I still haven’t given Cyberpunk a chance yet.
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Certinty
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Cancelling my Game Pass subscription when it runs out in June. Microsoft thinking they can get away with shit like this is embarrassing and outright disrespectful to subscribers.
XXL
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Lol. I completely agree. I'm just stating what is being said.
fart town usa
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Ghostwire Tokyo and yes I'm being serious. The game looks gorgeous, has 60+ hours content in the base game and has consistently received updates, even a whole new roguelke mode.
Topher
Gold Member
People have said that Microsoft gives their studios complete freedom. Think this is proving that too much freedom is probably not always a good thing.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
I think M is being trolled more than they should for the redfall thing.
I love arkane studios, but it's 90% their fault if the game sucks, they interviewed the headchief and he said that redfall is the arkane game that was more similar to the initial idea of the game, so the project was utterly fucked well before the M deal was a thing.
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Sleepwalker
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ToadMan
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My summary is this
1. PS5 is getting better technical quality - stop that.
2. Xbox needs to talk more (!) about future games like Avowed and Everwild (ROFL)
3. Drop the ABK deal
4. Money hat big games! Like.... Warhammer and some game I never heard of. Right...
5. Do marketing
Basically it's just tone deaf console warring crap. The days where Xbox was a console brand are long gone, but for some reason their biggest fans can't see that.
Get a PC, play the games better or best there. Xbox consoles haven't been the focus of the Xbox division for years now.
Number 4 is ridiculous. He suggested moneyhatting games that wouldn't move the needle and ignores the actual problem - Xbox cannot afford moneyhats. It's why they're trying to get daddy MS to buy publishers.