Draugoth
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Report: Bungie Is Likely Developing ‘Destiny 3,’ Codename ‘Payback’
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Hopefully it's true since this is the only way I'll consider returning to Destiny.
Lucifers Beard
Member
Nah, I'd rather they make a single player shooter with an arena based multiplayer offering in the same vein as Halo. Fuck it, can't they just do Killzone?
vaibhavpisal
Member
Payback to Playstation and get independence back.
Hell yeah!!!
Bungie dudes are driven if nothing else.
Hell yeah!!!
Bungie dudes are driven if nothing else.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
I bet Totoki came up with that codename personally.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Payback for what? They sold the company under the proviso that they'd be able to do their thing without interference and oversight provide the money kept flowing.
They only started to sweat when delays and bad decisions started to dry up their income - its basically a problem of their own creation.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
They need to find a way for Destiny 3 to:
1) not be intimidating to newcomers, regardless of season/dlc
2) not shelve old content, weapons, or armor.
I should be able to go in a hub and understand where to go for various content drops, see status completion, and have each content release feature significant rewards that can boost equipment that is additive to boosts from other releases
Destiny 2 just became too bloated and intimidating and the story is convoluted
1) not be intimidating to newcomers, regardless of season/dlc
2) not shelve old content, weapons, or armor.
I should be able to go in a hub and understand where to go for various content drops, see status completion, and have each content release feature significant rewards that can boost equipment that is additive to boosts from other releases
Destiny 2 just became too bloated and intimidating and the story is convoluted
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Payback for what? Their own bad decisions? Lmao
It's not like this was a takeover from Sony's part. They wanted to be acquired and Destiny 2 is losing steam because of Bungie's own incompetence.
Nothing to do with Sony. If anything, if everything goes south, they can be thankful they aren't alone when the boat starts sinking and have a company like Sony to help them.
Bond007
Member
I think it did and was peak Destiny. Then it fell- atleast in my opinion.
As for Destiny 3, Id say FINALLY.
Lets learn from the previous games and move forward. D2 has lasted way too long if you ask me. I will also say i see this as a PS6 game.
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cash_longfellow
Member
PlayStation had no hand in ruining Destiny, Bungie did that all themselves my friend.
Shut0wen
Banned
I dont get why they cant just do expansion like every other mmo instead of the shitty expansions thqt they already have where like you say are not on sale anymore and have weapons and armour gone forever
Gudji
Member
SEGAvangelist
Member
Hopefully they're paying back all the money we wasted on the last 2 games. I'm still bitter about that Destiny 2 content removal. Pretty much the entire base game is just... gone. Criminal stuff, IMO.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Destiny 3 and Marathon will be massive games and the people who called Bungie washed will walk around unpunished like the Nazis who fled to Argentina in 1945.
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Trogdor1123
Member
It really did, Destiny 2 got better but then the quality dropped off a cliff with lightfall. It’s utterly terrible. They started to monetize too much too.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Shhh don't let him know.
Oh he knows. Just gotta take any opportunity for a jab.
Trogdor1123
Member
I’m not sold on marathon at all. It sounds kind if cruddy to me.
I need to find so cheap codes for the game on pc. I just need witch queen I think… I am loathe to buy lightfall again but night need to.
Bernardougf
Member
This
STARSBarry
Gold Member
I was originally codenamed "Paycheque" but Sony demanded they change the codename to something more accurate after the failure of GaaS and the fact Bungie continue to deliver nothing.
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Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
I’ll be surprised if that’s the case.
The reason they didn’t make a Destiny 3 and kept expanding on Destiny 2 is because they didn’t want to kill the player base and segment it.
If I recall they went on record that D3 content is in D2.
Which worries me. This last expansion was supposed to end the story for these two games and put a nice now on it. If that isn’t the case I imagine the ending will not be satisfying and then we will be drip fed seasons for years that are mediocre until Destiny 3.
D3 at this point is likely a 2029 or 2030 release title? That’s a LOT of drip feed content.
I would really hope they just make a new IP.
The reason they didn’t make a Destiny 3 and kept expanding on Destiny 2 is because they didn’t want to kill the player base and segment it.
If I recall they went on record that D3 content is in D2.
Which worries me. This last expansion was supposed to end the story for these two games and put a nice now on it. If that isn’t the case I imagine the ending will not be satisfying and then we will be drip fed seasons for years that are mediocre until Destiny 3.
D3 at this point is likely a 2029 or 2030 release title? That’s a LOT of drip feed content.
I would really hope they just make a new IP.
yurinka
Member
Bungie clearly hinted Destiny 3 yesterday, previously already said that Destiny won't going to end with The Final Shape, we know they are working on movie/tv adaptations and Destiny was the only valuable IP Bungie had when Sony did pay a lot of money for them. Sony obviously will want more Destiny games. Bungie also doubled their manpower since they were acquired.
So yes, no need to be an insider they will release Destiny 3 and pretty likely already have been working on it for a while since they have enough manpower to be working in like 5-6 AAA games at full production, being Destiny 2 and Marathon only two of them.
So yes, no need to be an insider they will release Destiny 3 and pretty likely already have been working on it for a while since they have enough manpower to be working in like 5-6 AAA games at full production, being Destiny 2 and Marathon only two of them.
I thought MLB, GT7, Destiny 2 and Helldivers 2 were very successful.
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ultrazilla
Gold Member
100% feel the same way. They need a clean break from Destiny 2. I have too many negative memories and let downs from the history of
D2. That initial "love" phase I had with D1 and D2 ended up fading away after years of broken patches, nerfs, recycled content and vaulted
content we ended up getting resold.
I want all new enemies, new locations, just new everything. A clean start. I want a reason to play Destiny 3 and become invested in the universe again.
Hell, I'd probably welcome a hard reboot of the I.P.
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Dynasty8
Member
Yes, MUCH better, it's legitimately one of the funnest games I've ever played in 40 years. The problem, however, is that it can be pretty confusing and not interesting for new players. By the time they get to the "good stuff", they probably quit due to being overwhelmed or uninterested. This is totally on Bungie and something they need to improve. A Destiny 3 can solve this.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
It wasn’t thought of from the start to build a game that is always easy to onboard new players.
WoW retail suffers from this as well.
When a large game like Destiny or WoW is initially made it’s fantastic to new players because of the current scope and how the game connects things bit by bit.
Once you get to expansion 3 you’re in trouble.
I’ll be curious if D3 is real how they plan to overcome this from the jump and keep it that way.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Sony massively scaled back their GaaS plans last year because it's projected to not make nearly as much for them. I would point out that Destiny's nose diving revenue is one of the reasons Bungie has had to make some major changes recently too, hence the joke.
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Salty Pickle
Member
God please no.gif
Don’t ruin it like they did with BF by ruining the classes and what makes them unique. They make you make choices and sacrifices so you can’t have everything and that is a good thing!
D2 peaked with Forsaken btw, imo.
Don’t ruin it like they did with BF by ruining the classes and what makes them unique. They make you make choices and sacrifices so you can’t have everything and that is a good thing!
D2 peaked with Forsaken btw, imo.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
But "This" would generate 1/15th the revenue that a pure Live Service title would.
We haven't seen much of it. All we know is that it's an interesting, unexplored genre made by one of the premier multiplayer/Live Service developers around. I'd bet on it becoming bigger than Destiny 2.
LordOfChaos
Member
Yeah...I have very slim hope that The Final Shape won't be just like most other DLCs, the big galactic scale baddie built up for years just turns out to be another dude when he's here and there's yet another more powerful foe behind it.
That's the problem with these service style games, lack of good resolution. I do hope they end the 10 year Darkness saga in a good way, but record shows they just milk players dry. And I just want to play through all the content as a single player without being limited in trying to find a party to get through certain content.
That's the problem with these service style games, lack of good resolution. I do hope they end the 10 year Darkness saga in a good way, but record shows they just milk players dry. And I just want to play through all the content as a single player without being limited in trying to find a party to get through certain content.
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yurinka
Member
Nah, they just replaced the less promising PS Studios ones (+ND wanting to focus instead on their multiple SP games under development) with the Bungie ones. They still have 12+ GaaS IPs under development (now without the March 2026 deadline), with 5 of them already released and 4 of them being very successful.
Destiny continues in the top rankings. Top PSN 2023 F2P games:
Steam most played games right now:
And no, Totoki said the 100+ people laid off in Bungie was already decided by Bungie back when they did the acquisition. After the layoff Bungie continued growing, their manpower is twice as big as they were when acquired.
Don't believe any random crap you see in internet. Destiny 2 continues performing more than well for being a 7 years old game.
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Dynasty8
Member
Totally agree man. It's terrible especially for new players or returning players who don't know exactly what to do.
That being said, It would be a complete waste to shelve everything they've worked so hard on for the last 7 years. The new subclasses, the subclass reworks, the unique weapons and armor, the amazing raids and dungeons need to stay - but NO campaign stuff though, they need to reset the story and let Destiny 2 just be "lore"/past events at this point. D3 should have its own epic campaign similar to Witch Queen with optional Legend difficulty to welcome new and old players to the "new" story/conflict of Destiny...and it should NEVER be vaulted. This campaign will be the introduction/tutorial, not some underwhelming Cosmodrome stuff. This can be an Overwatch to Overwatch 2 scenario, but it needs to be done right.
The director UI also needs to be cleaned up and be less bloated. For example, I don't want to look for the Warlord's Ruin dungeon by going to one of the 10 destinations on the map and looking for it...I know it's in the EDZ, but let me just select a node called Legend and it'll take me to 2 options: Raids or Dungeons. I can then select which one through a drop down (similar to GM Nightfalls). They also need to remove ALL of the "news" or "update" pop ups that appear on the director...replace it with a notification tab.
So much potential here.
Bernardougf
Member
Im not a sony shareholder so couldn't give two fucks about what generates more money or not... Halo was good Destiny is gAAASSSS... more games like halo less like Destiny... fuck it
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I guess Bungie has to do what's in their best interests. Gamers asking them to drive the plane into the mountain shall be ignored...**** it.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
So another Bungie game I will be skipping.
tylrdiablos
Member
They use the word "Report" like there's something official being... you know... reported. Then it's quickly followed by the "likely", meaning it's another click-bait waste of time.
What a load of shit. Of course Bungie are working on a new game and probably sticking to a genre they're familiar with.
What a load of shit. Of course Bungie are working on a new game and probably sticking to a genre they're familiar with.
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
mayham2199
Member
I couldn't believe how unfriendly D2 was to new comers. They can't repeat that same mistake again.
Kings Field
Member
I was going to get back into Destiny 2 with the new expansion coming but after seeing the pronouns on screen yesterday during the trailer I’m skipping.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Yup. I tried it when it hit game pass and had no fucking idea what to do. It made me do the first mission from the first game too. I was dropped to a map and was lost.
I just don’t know what the hell has happened to this team. And it has nothing to do with Sony. They were heading downhill way before Sony threw them a life preserver. It’s a shame too.
Guerilla Games just needs to go back to Killzone. I miss the Killzone/Halo wars. Us gamers won with great games from both series.