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Sons of Anarchy - Season 4 - Tuesdays on FX

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Net_Wrecker

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Dat last episode....DAT EVERYTHING. Clay done lost it. I don't see how it won't end up with him hurt or worse by the end of this season.
 
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Paznos

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Damn this episode was awesome, I felt so bad for Tara, and the Gemma and Clay scene immediately reminded me of season 2 with Gemma getting raped man I felt so bad for her, Clay needs to pay and she's right he's unsaveable now.
 
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brianjones

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Mattlikewhoa said:
How is this NOT the last season?!? After watching that last episode, I have no clue how this will end...
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this all does feel like end game type stuff

still 3 more seasons? maybe sutter was being too ambitious
 
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ivysaur12

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Doing my new watch everything from the week during the weekend thing. 20 minutes in and this episode is already better than the entire season.
 
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VivaZapata

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Did anyone mention the return of Wendy Case?

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blahblah...blah

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Sutter described this episode as an homage to gaming, and also noted that (big, albeit vague spoiler)
another member of SAMCRO will be 'saying goodbye' - don't know if this is death, arrest, execution (Otto) or leaving Charming
 
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RepairmanJack

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blahblah...blah said:
Sutter described this episode as an homage to gaming, and also noted that (big, albeit vague spoiler)
another member of SAMCRO will be 'saying goodbye' - don't know if this is death, arrest, execution (Otto) or leaving Charming
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Guessing....
Unser.........Though he really isn't a member.
 
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Carnby

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Chamber said:
Not sure how this whole deal with Clay can drag on for 3 more episodes.
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Don't worry. Sutter called an AMC writer and got advice on how to add filler and artificially lengthen the last 3 episodes.
 
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Nizz

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Wow, awesome episode! I can't believe Unser went ahead and told Opie everything. Clay's got pretty much the whole club turning on him. I can't imagine him making it out alive this season. This seems like "end of a series" type plotlines we're seeing here.
 
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tokkun

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I'm guessing that Kozick's actor had some sort of conflict that prevented him from being on the show...?

I mean they had a whole plotline about bringing him in last season. Then this season he is off screen for most of the episodes and when he finally comes back he is blown up after being on screen for 10 seconds.
 
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Clevinger

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tokkun said:
I'm guessing that Kozick's actor had some sort of conflict that prevented him from being on the show...?

I mean they had a whole plotline about bringing him in last season. Then this season he is off screen for most of the episodes and when he finally comes back he is blown up after being on screen for 10 seconds.
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Yeah. He left SoA for the NBC show Prime Suspect, which was ironically I think unofficially canceled today or yesterday.
 
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wenis

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MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN


Opie's face was fucking intense at the end there. Like his entire face was just going to burst blood out of every pore.

These last episodes I hope are meaty because shit is going to go down so hard.
 
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ConradCervantes

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Poor Kozik. And Kenny Johnson, for that matter.

Intense shit. Opie looked like a fucking werewolf in transition when he was kneeling in front of Piney's corpse.

This episode was packed to the brim, it could've easily been two hours if the writers fleshed out some scenes further.
 
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BoboBrazil

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Great episode, except for the bullshit about bringing in Jax's baby mama drama. I don't want to see that garbage. Some major shit is going to go down now with Otto giving up the club.
 
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Al-ibn Kermit

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BoboBrazil said:
Great episode, except for the bullshit about bringing in Jax's baby mama drama. I don't want to see that garbage. Some major shit is going to go down now with Otto giving up the club.
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Tig too. Well basically all of the club will be against Clay now if they hear about what happened to Gemma and Piney.

As for Otto, I think he'll give up the deal once he hears about how Clay was the one who pushed for using Caruso rather than killing him but now that Caruso finally admitted his part in Luanne's death and has been executed, Otto has no more reason to take up Lincoln Potter on his deal.

All that's really up in the air is how Clay will try to claw out of this situation. I can't imagine any scenario where he gets away with his life but is still in charge of the club. Also when you combine the fractured command structure of the club with the violent cartel feuding, it's hard to imagine a way for the club to cleanly sever ties with the Galindo cartel.

Other than Clay, I can definitely see other main characters dying by the end of the season.
 
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Jake.

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man, no one seemed too bummed about lem (dunno his SOA character's name) dying. i know he was from another charter but still.
 
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Omega

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Jake. said:
man, no one seemed too bummed about lem (dunno his SOA character's name) dying. i know he was from another charter but still.
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Technically he got patched in, you see the Redwood patch in the first episode. Not sure if you can see it for the 4 seconds he appears in the last episode.

Also, I agree with the dude who said bringing back Wendy was retarded. No need for it. I also don't see how this show continues on after this season. Clay has to die, and then what after? Jax seems pretty intent on leaving and I honestly can't see him changing his mind. Even if he stays, Otto is snitching, which is going to have the whole club in prison. They can't Agent Stahl their way out of this one..

Al-ibn Kermit said:
Tig too. Well basically all of the club will be against Clay now if they hear about what happened to Gemma and Piney.

As for Otto, I think he'll give up the deal once he hears about how Clay was the one who pushed for using Caruso rather than killing him but now that Caruso finally admitted his part in Luanne's death and has been executed, Otto has no more reason to take up Lincoln Potter on his deal.

All that's really up in the air is how Clay will try to claw out of this situation. I can't imagine any scenario where he gets away with his life but is still in charge of the club. Also when you combine the fractured command structure of the club with the violent cartel feuding, it's hard to imagine a way for the club to cleanly sever ties with the Galindo cartel.

Other than Clay, I can definitely see other main characters dying by the end of the season.
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I don't see Otto believing anyone. One way or another the club is responsible for her death, Bobby was having an affair with his wife and they lied about "taking care of Caruso" so he probably doesn't trust a word any of them says anymore.

Clay, Unser, Juice and Bobby are the remaining deaths.
 
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Garryk

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Someone explain this part to me:

Lincoln: Why do you care so much about Lenny?
Otto: You wouldn't get it.
Lincoln: I wish that were true.

Is this a prison bitch thing or what?
 
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Cornballer

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Al-ibn Kermit said:
As for Otto, I think he'll give up the deal once he hears about how Clay was the one who pushed for using Caruso rather than killing him but now that Caruso finally admitted his part in Luanne's death and has been executed, Otto has no more reason to take up Lincoln Potter on his deal.
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I don't see Otto going through with it.
Garryk said:
Someone explain this part to me:

Lincoln: Why do you care so much about Lenny?
Otto: You wouldn't get it.
Lincoln: I wish that were true.

Is this a prison bitch thing or what?
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Maybe Lincoln used to ride in an MC.
 
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Garryk

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Cornballer said:
I don't see Otto going through with it.
Maybe Lincoln used to ride in an MC.
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I think we saw him riding a motorcycle in the first episode. What do you wanna bet he's got a reaper on his back?

EDIT: Or the scarred remnants of one.
 
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Carnby

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Garryk said:
Someone explain this part to me:

Lincoln: Why do you care so much about Lenny?
Otto: You wouldn't get it.
Lincoln: I wish that were true.

Is this a prison bitch thing or what?
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I think he replied "I wish that wasn't true."

And I think Otto was saying that Lincoln does not understand loyalty.
 
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