Sony Is Being Defensive With The PS5 – And That Is A Smart Move
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Tell your customers that they get free next gen patches for the coming titles and that is not keeping you from revealing your next console.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Are you saying that doesn't go on? There is always a company who will go to another company and say how much will it cost for me to get the top spec u can produce for this and that you can't make that for a competition, or I pay for exclusive rights for RDNA 2.O for console life span of next gen. there are ways to do it without espionage but yeah espionage goes on don't it. How else we seen leaks of ps5 dev kits and the xbox Xs befor they properly shown
MilkyJoe
Member
I'm guessing Sony have gone for the 399 camp and they'll be talking about transistors and such rather than flops come September.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Do you think internet insiders know more than Microsoft and Sony? Whose job it is to know these things? They don't need AMD to tell them anything. The available parts are completely transparent unless you are the one creating something eplixictly on your own (like Microsofts raytracing cores, which will also be used in Surface devices based on recent leaks).
Shin
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They probably do, if you read the Xbox blog post from yesterday and paid attention (hardly anyone does tbh) you will notice Xbox saying our strongest and not the strongest.
Thats rather telling imo, then again it echoes with what's out there and both consoles will deliver.
Team Andromeda
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Funny , it was only a few months back the SONY fans were saying how the PS5 was ahead because of the development kits out in the wild . I'm sure SONY will back a suprise, but like how MS was quite on the One specs untill the end , it's SONY is the same, so maybe MS really do have a power Adv this gen .
In the end both consoles are going to be massive jumps
In the end both consoles are going to be massive jumps
phil_t98
#SonyToo
We need both consoles to be powerful because we want a competitive gen where nobody has the advantage so us the gamers get the best out fo both companies
Stuart360
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They cant really say 'THE most powerful console ever' when Sony hasnt announced specs yet, even if they 100% know. People would be like 'how do you know when Sony havent given specs yet?'. What a can of worms that would be to answrer in the gaming press lol.
MilkyJoe
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Aye, the same tech was available to both parties, and they both have the pick of the menu, it just depends on how much they were willing to sell the finished product for, which dictates their ceiling in power. I reckon MS are so open with the 12 tflpos and the "look at this massive box" because they know they are at the upper limit. So PS will either match it or be less. I'm firmly in the less crue. 9tf.
DynamiteCop!
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While Sony is smart they have always been bitches, they lead the market but can't actually lead the market.
They always wait for their competition so they can position themselves. Sure this is a smart move but it lacks confidence and leadership qualities. I mean even as we speak they've straight up said they're waiting on Microsoft for price so they can set theirs for the PS5.
That's pretty pathetic.
They always wait for their competition so they can position themselves. Sure this is a smart move but it lacks confidence and leadership qualities. I mean even as we speak they've straight up said they're waiting on Microsoft for price so they can set theirs for the PS5.
That's pretty pathetic.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
You can't say you are faster than something that hasn't even announced how fast it is, can you? Not without sounding arrogant AF. I am sure the same people that try to read into that statement that they aren't the power leader would tear them up if they dared to call their console the fastest console this gen.
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darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Microsoft had relative success this gen at 499. Sony had outstanding success at 399. I can see why Sony would design a 399 console.
SuperLupeRap
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Wasn't that the case coming out of the PS2 gen as well? Pretty sure it's not in Sony's plans to lose half the market to Xbox again.
What insiders? I have read 8, 9.2, 9.8, 10, 12, 12.3, 13 TFLOPS for PS5 from different insiders.
SuperLupeRap
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
I think it's looking more likely the ps5 will be between 10 to 12tfs rather than the lower end. if they were only 9tf that be to much of a difference
Moses85
Member
This!
And if they let them fuck from Microsoft by a significant stronger Hardware, they are even more idiots.
They will fall and fail hard if this gets true.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
Playstation are being like little try hards.
There like " tehehe we are gonna wait for ms to tell there price and specs, then we can make our price better and win tehehe"
There like " tehehe we are gonna wait for ms to tell there price and specs, then we can make our price better and win tehehe"
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Surprise reveal: You have to add them all together.
Shin
Banned
You can't, lawsuit on your ass before the console even hits retail.
Yet I don't find it strange that both parties might know what the other is doing through 3rd party relations slip ups.
Both are pushing "power" in their slogans, Power your dreams and Feel the power of PlayStation, tis interesting.
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Remember the Marketing of both consoles will be as meticulously planned as the consoles themselves and the fact that both Sony and MS have been able to keep a lid on much of what they are planning both hardware and software side means the mapping they have in place has not been compromised. For MS compared to the XB1 launch this must be a godsend. As someone who's worked in marketing for longer than I care to mention, I think the gap between the wired article from Sony and further teasers is too long. Will it matter in the long run, very unlikely.
MilkyJoe
Member
Agreed.
molasar
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I believe that Sony does not want to distract their current and potential customers from games like The Last of Us 2 and Ghost of Tsushima. After release of the latter, they are gonna go big with PS5 campaign unless MS brings some big guns which take away a momentum from those games.
Psykodad
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Is that so?
Because the vast majority of people don't even care yet as long as Sony hasn't really made a major announcement.
SimonGosejohann
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that was because xbox was +$100 more expensive AND even weaker!
if xbox series X is the same price and more powerful than $399 won't help much.
molasar
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To me it does. Just to avoid a self-cannibalization effect. On the other hand MS does not have anything big coming to their current platforms, so they are free to reveal stuff about their next gen console(s).
SleepDoctor
Banned
Especially if they are going to be bc on Ps5 with possible enhancements.
This silence is just rather strange. They announce all other types of bullshit like a logo, forum closing, cancel shows, etc but hush on their console.
Maybe they're really not ready.
Psykodad
Banned
Imagine this though:
While MS is boasting about their XSX without anything substantial to show and even saying it will lack XSX exclusive games for at least a year, Sony might just as easily be quiet while they get actual 1st party PS5 exclusives ready for a reveal where they come blowing MS away right out the gate.
The lack of communication is already lowering expectations, making it even easier for Sony to do so.
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SimonGosejohann
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people are talking shit about sony though and making fun of them. just look at the logo reveal, people were laughing at sony:
https://www.creativebloq.com/news/ps5-logo-revealed-at-ces-2020
https://thenextweb.com/plugged/2020/01/07/new-ps5-playstation-sony-logo-company-gives-up/
https://www.gamesradar.com/sony-reveals-the-ps5s-official-logo-and-literally-nobody-is-surprised/
people didnt like the way sony handled it.
nah, not true. third party deves can create xbox series x eclusive games! this was only for xbox studio games.
also what exclusive games for PS5 have been announced? dont talk about godfall lol horrible game xD also, exclusive games dont matter that much if ALL multiplatform games run and look better on xbox and if xbox even gives them to you FOR FREE if you bought it previously.. we dont even know if sony allows that.
bruh, dial it back a little bit, you are making a fool out of yourself with all this spinning
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Moses85
Member
Ghosts will be released in Summer, do you really believe, Sony will wait till this Game is released? This is to late for a reaveal.
Even for a reveal after TLOU2 launch is to late.
Shin
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Psykodad
Banned
Ofocurse there will be people doing that. Buy like I said, a vocal minority.
The masses don't really care.
How about those instagram posts of XSX reveal vs PS5 logo reveal?
<1M vs 5+M likes respectively.
That's how the masses get their news and how they react.
We hardcore gamers are just a bunch of nerds getting worked up over stupid stuff.
alabtrosMyster
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Oh this is gamingbolt... do not read, do not click, you don't have enough time on this earth to waste any of it on this site.
SimonGosejohann
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ok, now tell me a single AAA exclusive game to PS5 only within the first year. Tell me.
I think and according to jim ryan we will have the PS4 as the center and "engine" of sony, so I think for the first couple of years there will be PS4/PS5 AAA exclusive games!
We will only have small budget games that will be PS5 only, but not big and costly AAA games.
Sony Playstation 4: "Will remain the engine of engagement and profitability for the next three years"
see here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...19/GNS_E.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0nEXG18bXS_KJFy28UVwKT
but proof me otherwise please. thanks
molasar
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No, it is not too late as long as MS does not bring big guns in a form of better games.
But as I mentioned before, it is all to avoid a self-cannibalization effect. Who knows? If they do not have any other big game that can be a PS5 launch title, they will use TLoU2 and GoT in their next gen console campaign as well.
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Airbus Jr
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I think they still want to focus every marketing department on The Last of Us II and Ghost of Tsushima
Dont want anything else to steal the light from it
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SleepDoctor
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It would be batshitcrazy if the 2nd prediction became true.
Consoles would be exciting again and not just from a graphical point of view.
Who's Tom Fisher? Lol
Its like everyday we see a new "insider" pop up
Airbus Jr
Banned
It would be batshitcrazy if the 2nd prediction became true.
Consoles would be exciting again and not just from a graphical point of view.
If that picture is true
Some people here like Beige that been touting PS5 only have 8-9 TF will be sweating like
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Moses85
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Sorry but you can't convince me. The only blockbusters Sony had to offer in the last 1,5 years (1st Party) are TLOU2 and Ghosts.
All their 1st Party Studios are working hard in PS5 Titels and I am 100% sure, some of theme will bring games to the PS5 launch. Nothing other does make sense.
Moses85
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molasar
Banned
I do not try to convince you. This is the way I see it.
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ZywyPL
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The whole situation does put Sony in a bad light - after all, they were the first ones with that Wired article that started the next-gen talk, the first ones to start giving the interviews about PS5, its upcoming features, how they are working with AMD etc., they send out the dev-kits long time ago, and after the initial stage where one would've though the momentum will only keep increasing, they went into complete radio silence... It's exactly like with their 1st party games, where they announce things waaay too soon, then apologize for the long-lasting lack of any information about the games, and assure they've finally learnt their mistake and won't make it again, and then they still make it, again and again... And looking at how they handle the PS5/next-gen conversation it looks like they indeed didn't learn shit.
While on the contrary, MS was seriously LTTP - they announced they're also working on next Xbox in June during E3, the dev-kits were released less than 3 months ago, and since then they already showed the look of the console, it's name, even the APU chip, yesterday we got this comprehensive list of specs and features, all of that within just a quarter, whereas Sony for almost a year hasn't really done much after that initial Wired interview, most of PS5 hints come from the leaked patents or 3rd party devs.
So for me, once Sony finally decides to reveal the PS5, it has to be BIG, literally they'll have to outshine XB and PC in every possible way, otherwise if they are going to just sit and wait for MS price reveal to just cut down theirs by 50-100$ then screw them, their lazy, no effort, and almost anti-consumer approach is not worth saving those extra bucks. MS in my eyes already redeemed themselves from that terrible/disastrous initial Don Mattrick's leadership, while Sony has yet to do their job after current not-so-user-friendly attitude.
While on the contrary, MS was seriously LTTP - they announced they're also working on next Xbox in June during E3, the dev-kits were released less than 3 months ago, and since then they already showed the look of the console, it's name, even the APU chip, yesterday we got this comprehensive list of specs and features, all of that within just a quarter, whereas Sony for almost a year hasn't really done much after that initial Wired interview, most of PS5 hints come from the leaked patents or 3rd party devs.
So for me, once Sony finally decides to reveal the PS5, it has to be BIG, literally they'll have to outshine XB and PC in every possible way, otherwise if they are going to just sit and wait for MS price reveal to just cut down theirs by 50-100$ then screw them, their lazy, no effort, and almost anti-consumer approach is not worth saving those extra bucks. MS in my eyes already redeemed themselves from that terrible/disastrous initial Don Mattrick's leadership, while Sony has yet to do their job after current not-so-user-friendly attitude.
Shin
Banned
He's on this website and gave those numbers in December.
PS5 tidbit is funny, because Bloomberg said they are struggling due to costly parts, naturally the what if comes to mind.
Knightime_X
Member
Sony has no balls at all.
Kinda hard to respect a company that always refuses to go first.
Smart? maybe? Beta? absolutely!
Kinda hard to respect a company that always refuses to go first.
Smart? maybe? Beta? absolutely!
Whitecrow
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I mean, even to grandmas : DDWho doesn't want to, if the counterpart is a sexy, young goddess?