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Star Wars IX Open Spoilers, Leaks, Trash Talk, etc. (***Warning SPOILERS***)

Its so crazy I was listening to Doomcock the other day thinking “nah this is bullshit” lol he was right omg
The question is now, was there also really other versions of the movie shot? Was all that stuff about teat screenings, alternate endings and a George Lucas cut true too?

Because if so, and this is the version they decided to go with, holy crap!

I guess that might explain why Lucas was banned from the premier, lest he shoot his mouth off about what could have been...
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
The question is now, was there also really other versions of the movie shot? Was all that stuff about teat screenings, alternate endings and a George Lucas cut true too?

Because if so, and this is the version they decided to go with, holy crap!

I guess that might explain why Lucas was banned from the premier, lest he shoot his mouth off about what could have been...
test screenings, alt endings, etc. im sure there was a lot filmed for this and a lot cut to fit this time and a lot of scrambling, so much of that is likely true.

but as for test screenings and a George Lucas cut, i almost feel like they don't care enough to go through the trouble. it is obvious they haven't planned jack shit, why start now? then again Lucas wasn't at the premier, which is really weird for a movie that supposedly honors the legacy of characters he created. im guessing we will get all the details and drama in the coming months.

btw i added the recently leaked images to the title OP.
 
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VertigoOA

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I gave this as much effort as it deserves

The Emperor was Vader’s force rape daddy tho. So technically they were all Palpatines. That means there’s some second cousin incest romance with Rey and Kylo too lol

There are six Star Wars movies.

thanks to Disney for making the prequels retroactively better

I never thought I would never see Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker again in my lifetime. It’s something I wanted my entire life.

Now I wish it never happened. Bastards
 
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jadedm17

Member
Im mostly here to see legal backlash : If Pokemon Company is sueing over Switch game leaks then i cant inagine the guts you need to take on The Mouse.

Seriously, whoever leaks this stuff habe gotta be the dumbest people on the planet.
 

Shantae

Banned
The Emperor was Vader’s force rape daddy tho. So technically they were all Palpatines. That means there’s some second cousin incest romance with Rey and Kylo too lol

There are six Star Wars movies.

thanks to Disney for making the prequels retroactively better

I never thought I would never see Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker again in my lifetime. It’s something I wanted my entire life.

Now I wish it never happened. Bastards
I didn't wanna say anything, because I honestly don't think they thought about that when making this decision about Rey just taking the name for herself. But yeah, that's technically true I was thinking too.

But oh shit, then you're right about the incestuous stuff too. They REALLY didn't think about that Palpatine aspect, did they.
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
The Emperor was Vader’s force rape daddy tho. So technically they were all Palpatines. That means there’s some second cousin incest romance with Rey and Kylo too lol
effectively, there are two canons. Lucas canon, where the creator himself pondered introducing this idea, then deciding to cut it from the final film. in Lucas's canon Anakin is a descendant from the Force itself, a virgin birth, perhaps hinting at Shmi's unknown importance, perhaps lining up with the PT prophecy. Vader is not descended from Palpatine in the Lucas canon.

however in the new canon, Anakin is a result of Palpatine Force raping a slave woman. in this canon, Anakin, Luke, Leia, Kylo, and Rey are all related on the father's side. so your statement would be true. just thank the Lucasfilm Story Group for keeping this all in line.
 
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VertigoOA

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I’m hoping South Park dedicates an entire season explaining to everyone why the new Star Wars sucks ... again.
 
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cryptoadam

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So just so I get this the ST showed us the force can be used to

Heal and bring back the dead
Power up Palps
Float and breath in space
Project yourself across the galaxy
Transport physical objects such as a lightsaber
some sort of telekentic bond where people can talk and see each other across any distance

Makes running fast and holding your breath seem pretty quint in comparison.
 
I’m starting to wish RLM’s time travel plot had made it in. Fix the Jedi school, save Kylo from ever going dark, u could ever bring back the Emperors & Vaders from each film. Giant missed opportunity

Yeah... so we could get more "time travel" like in Azkaban, Looper, or Endgame?

No thanks.

Primer is still the movie to beat when it comes to time travel. Obviously not all movies need to be like that, but recent attempts have just been embarrassing.
 
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#Phonepunk#

Banned
So just so I get this the ST showed us the force can be used to

Heal and bring back the dead
Power up Palps
Float and breath in space
Project yourself across the galaxy
Transport physical objects such as a lightsaber
some sort of telekentic bond where people can talk and see each other across any distance

Makes running fast and holding your breath seem pretty quint in comparison.
freeze a laser blast in mid-air
freeze a person & knock them out

tho i don't blame you for forgetting, Kylo was super powerful in TFA and in TLJ he pretty much never uses the force.
 
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Fnord

Member
That Sith holocron looks like a fucking Power Rangers prop.

Glad I'm not the only one that noticed that. And there's really no excuse. Even on a shoestring budget they could have produced something that looks better than that.
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I’m starting to wish RLM’s time travel plot had made it in. Fix the Jedi school, save Kylo from ever going dark, u could ever bring back the Emperors & Vaders from each film. Giant missed opportunity
I like to think that "World Between Worlds" which IS canon and can lead to other times allows for parallel SW universes where, ya know, KOTOR 1 and 2 are canon and things turned out different.
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?

Oof.

Well there goes 14 dollars I guess but hopefully at the very least it is a fun movie action-wise.

Sad to see Star Wars is dead.

Kennedy really poisoned this series. She should have been booted out after TLJ but the damage was done.
 

ZehDon

Member
Well this is just glorious.

JJ’s gonna bear the brunt of this, and a good measure of it is well deserved, but I just hope it doesn’t overshadow what Star Wars fans said two years ago: Rian Johnson killed Star Wars. No one could’ve salvaged the dumpster fire he created, and I hope he doesn’t worm his way out of his legacy: he burned down a 40 year franchise, ruined one of the most beloved properties ever created, and killed both the character and the legacy of one of the most iconic heroes in cinematic history. JJ made bad Star Wars movies, but Johnson dug the fucking grave.
 
When the first TFA trailer came out, Finn looked like a badass, and the trailer left you with the impression that he could be a jedi.

Ever since he has been treated like a fucking joke. If you compare the trio here to the OT trio, where does he fit in.

The issue with Finn is that he does not have a character, or a character arc. He started as a character idea (Stormtrooper who defects after committing atrocity) with possibly interesting twists (lightsaber combat, allusion to force affinity) but got reduced to a comedy relief B-plot character whose eventual conclusion is getting friendzoned by the protagonist and being being denied a meaningful sacrifice by a completely unplausible and uninteresting romantic interest. Here is Finn's character summary for you: "Fish out of water." That's how he starts, and how he ends, without a single character arc: Clumsy, insecure, useless. He kills Phasma twice and still has no character development to show for it. Gah.

This is it for Finn. He is a nobody, and him being in the story is completely irrelevant. If you remove Finn as a character from the whole ST, nothing would change, absolutely nothing.

Poe, Rey and Kylo? Yes, these are characters (how good or deep is another story) but Finn?

This is a broad problem with ST as a whole. There are a lot of 'people' that are introduced that you end up not giving a fuck about because they are not 'character's. Take Maz Kanata - who the fuck is she, why is she there, why should I care? Summarize Maz Kanata's character to me in three sentences, can you? You can't go beyond the first. The same issue holds for Finn, Admiral Holdo, Rose, Phasma, even fucking Snoke. It even permeates to OT characters that had screen time so far, who the fuck is Old Han, does he have a character? He just looks like he stopped giving a shit, you can watch Ford play Han and throughout the whole of TFA he has the 'please kill me and let me be done' look on his face. Who the fuck is Old Luke? Does he actually have a character, and does what little character he has fit with his OT persona?

The whole cast of ST is a total clusterfuck of incredible magnitudes. I'm just glad it ended and probably put Star Wars out of its misery, finally.
 
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I don't know how to feel about this, so is bad bad? Or is it just pissing off folks who liked the last jedi which means it's good bad?

The only thing I do know is that it's not good good.
 

Grinchy

Banned
freeze a laser blast in mid-air
freeze a person & knock them out

tho i don't blame you for forgetting, Kylo was super powerful in TFA and in TLJ he pretty much never uses the force.
This is one of the things I really hated. The beginning of TFA was awesome. Kylo was shown to be awesome. Then, for no reason, he forgets his powers and his lifetime of training just so he can be bested by a girl over and over again. It's a simple and juvenile as that.
 

Hissing Sid

Member
So, so the rumours were accurate?

How did this happen?

I was tole by a user on this forum who converses nightly with the cryogenically frozen head of Walt Disney that the shouty you-tubers were loud, full of shit, shouty, didn't have real sources, loud, were in it just for the clicks, shouty and categorically wrong about The Rise of Tittymilker.

I was tole!

Goddamn. My faith in random Gaf users with 'connections' is totally shattered.
 
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Did Han get a big hero moment in RotJ at the climax? Don't recall anything special, do recall his ass getting saved by someone else. But hey, weird criteria to judge films by all the same.
Dude, the entire first third of RotJ is how his friends put themselves into danger for rescuing him, because he is so important to them.
You would not even miss Finn storywise if you completely left him out in TLJ.
 
Dude, the entire first third of RotJ is how his friends put themselves into danger for rescuing him, because he is so important to them.
You would not even miss Finn storywise if you completely left him out in TLJ.
Not to mention that General Solo plays a pivotal role in the shield generator bunker assault. The movie also concludes their romance with Leia in a satisfactory manner.

He gets a good deal of character development as well (Han gets saved against terrible odds by loyal friends, he realigns his priorities and develops as a person, agrees to split with his most precious possession to take care of his loved one, assumes a role of command for a cause and just like in ANH secures a pivotal penultimate victory in the face of extreme odds to enable the hero to fulfill his destiny.)

What more did he have to do, kill Vader?

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Anyone who says Han has no arc in RotJ has watched a different movie.
 
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Dude, the entire first third of RotJ is how his friends put themselves into danger for rescuing him, because he is so important to them.
You would not even miss Finn storywise if you completely left him out in TLJ.

So you're saying Finn should have been captured at the end of TLJ and then the whole first third of TROS can be a really stupidly planned rescue (yes as cool as the scene is it's an absolutely abysmal plan Luke hatches)
 

Jinroh

Member
Just finished watching it. I honestly can’t say if it was good or not.

no explanation of how Palpatine survived, Snoke was created? And knights of ren are even more fodder than the red guards...
 
Is that really what you are reading out of my post?
Honestly?

You think Han was important because there was a really long dumb plan to save him, I'm trying to figure what would make Finn seem equally important to you. I'm not sure why, though, the argument is abysmally stupid. They wanted to save a friend because he's important to them, saving him did nothing for the plot at all.
 
You reasoning is beyond stupid here. Even if the plan to save him was dumb doesn't take away the fact that he was important enough for his friends to want to save him, putting their lives at risk.
Well.. Rose put herself.. and the entire Resistance at risk to save Finn.. So..

I really tried but I still couldn't give a flying fuck about either of them by that point, I wish they both died but still failed to destroy the siege laser - that would have been a satisfactory comic relief from all the cringe I had to endure up until that point in the movie..
 
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