Try a different class. The different stories really do make a difference. What class did you play?
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Star Wars: The Old Republic |OT| EA: "Let's blow this thing and go home!"
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Try a different class. The different stories really do make a difference. What class did you play?
You must hate every game in the world.
Castor Krieg
Banned
Any tips for talent build and gameplay for DPS Operative? I'm bored of healing.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Hey, I thought I'd ask here - how did BioWare end up addressing the whole "no gays in Star Wars" issue in the game?
And now if you play a populated class, you'll never get groups at all! Clearly that's much better!
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
The only classes i see having an issue would be only DPS classes, like with all mmos. The most popular seem to be tank or healer hybrids.
Canon.
The fact that *anyone* would have issues is enough reason for an LFG tool to exist.
BattleMonkey
Member
They didn't because its an internet myth. The concept of homosexuality is what doesn't exist in star wars, because its seen as natural and doesn't need to be labeled as something different. There is no word "gay" in star wars universe. Bioware even had homosexual relations in their own SW game. The nonsense all started because a mod on a forum made a comment that got twisted around.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
Ah fuck it I'm going to buy it. Luckily in an odd sense, at least from the beta I really can just play it like it's a regular KOTOR game, is that wrong to assume?
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I feel like they've skirted around the whole Juhani thing. Does this mean if you are playing a male character, you can "romance" a male NPC?
BattleMonkey
Member
Well the mod who started the mess apologized on their forums. He initially wanted to keep discussions clean and decided to ban such words from their forum when he made the filter list but it was a big mess. So a bit later he posted a retraction, he also has no say into what is ans isn't in SW. Bioware has said they are possibly going to have same sex relations in the future.
No. The reason is that Bioware is lazy and cut corners and this was one of the things they thought it was okay to cut.
Alex
Member
Yup. Makes a great co-op KOTOR.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Huh. Well, okay then. Thanks for the answers. I was just curious about how that all turned out since it was a bit of a "thing" when it first happened.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
As was pointed out a DF tool doesnt fix that. As a DPS class i would wait over an hour on a consistent basis in Wow.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
Well sounds like a good investment to me! Now how big is the client currently? So happy I FiOS though so I might get to play it tonight if its as big as the Beta was.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Having the meeting stones in one central location helps a ton.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Come on. The scope of this game is enormous. I don't see any corners being cut. Every project has a release deadline which means a finite amount of time and manpower, that's the reality of business. The beauty of MMOs is that they are never finished, they will evolve and grow.
The English Conquistador
Member
Well I was originally the Trooper for a good long while, then I tried the Bounty Hunter for a little while, and that was okay. But I'll be honest, the Nar Shaddaa planet burnt me out quite a bit, so being bothered to play the Bounty Hunter enthusiastically wasn't easy.
I did love my Trooper though, just hated how tedious Nar Shaddaa and planets after that became. Story was great and such, all that good stuff. Just getting to it was a pain.
I have a friend who has the game, and wants me to join as well, so that's more incentive I guess.
Any ideas on what class to play other than Trooper, since I've played quite a lot of that class already? I like guns/gadgets more than melee type classes.
Thanks!
Imperial Agent. Best story plus you are pretty much james bond.
If this is the excuse you want to peddle for the game being an incomplete mess that's fine, but being an MMO isn't a very good reason for a game to be incomplete.
And if you don't see the corners being cut here you are being very generous to Bioware. I cannot count the number of quests where my characters dialogue is the same cut and paste generic responses.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Incomplete mess? Please. Game is in the best shape of any MMO launch ive seen. This includes Wow.
Theres only so many ways to say "ill do it" or whatever.
The English Conquistador
Member
That's pretty rich. Find me a post made by Blizzard about having to fix the responsiveness of their game post launch.
too bad it doesnt feel like an MMO. lifeless worlds
And as I mentioned it's usually 5-10 min for me these days.
To their credit Bioware has added lots of animated npcs to the worlds in the last week or so. Instance balance still needs some work but as far as I can tell they are aggressively making the game better all the time. I'm pretty damn impressed with their launch and post-launch strategy.
You don't remember the game literally being unplayable for weeks? I would say a slight ability delay is better than not playing the game at all. At least Bioware has addressed all these issues and have them getting fixed.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
This is definitely the thing that irks me the most. For all the theater of the conversations and the like, they shipped with a fundamentally broken system for combat, which is much more critical to the game in the long run.
And is anyone from US Empire-GAF on that can invite? I tried to get in early this afternoon, but the person I asked said no officers were on that could do so.
Playing a Chiss Operative named Jacinda, though I'm not sure if I want to reroll her to a Sniper, or just roll a different character altogether. I got DCed doing the Black Talon when I was playing and haven't been on since (couldn't reconnect at the time), but I can see if I can get on momentarily.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
At least we dont have to wait 7 months for a PvP system and another month on top of that for Battlegrounds to make it in.
And im sorry you and others are having issues. i dont have responsiveness problems outside of when its laggy. Well i did before i upgraded my video card and set Ability Action delay settings up.
Well it wasnt for me. Even recently when they opened up the new dungeons it was 20-30 minutes at least.
Doesnt feel lifeless ot me. i just got done grouping for a heroic on Hoth. An hour ago i was getting camped by some Republic 50s outside Leth. i dont get the lifeless complaint. The only planet where i could say there was nobody was Quesh but that was at like 4am in the morning and the planet is super short.
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For those with responsiveness issues have you tried lowering the setting here?
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Incomplete mess? Hyperbolic much? I've had practically zero issues. You seem to have a very low rage threshold.
Yes i've adjusted the ability action queue.
The problem is, is that the animations are what is fucking up the responsiveness. So even though GCDs finish, you have to still wait till the animations are complete to be able to use your next action. Same goes for mounting and jumping/moving and then stopping to cast too. The GCD shouldn't be mostly there just for show, things should revolve around it accurately, and not the animations.
The problem is, is that the animations are what is fucking up the responsiveness. So even though GCDs finish, you have to still wait till the animations are complete to be able to use your next action. Same goes for mounting and jumping/moving and then stopping to cast too. The GCD shouldn't be mostly there just for show, things should revolve around it accurately, and not the animations.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
I can live with it as just a single player game. lol
Oh any reason to spring for Digital Deluxe Edition?
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
No, from what I hear most of the items are pretty useless. Not really worth the extra 20 bucks.
The responsiveness issue has nothing to do with fps or settings... here's a good thread discussing the issue (with videos)
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=133110
It is noticeable and it is annoying. They have acknowledged it, so I hope they find a solution.
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=133110
It is noticeable and it is annoying. They have acknowledged it, so I hope they find a solution.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
Good, they seemed pretty crappy when I looked at them, and the the private dancing thing...seemed a little odd.
It would be a silly kind of neat if it lasted longer than 60 seconds at a time.
HarryDemeanor
Member
Only if you want some fluff items and a free mount.
I would really appreciate it if Bioware would add a way to reset your advanced class choice. Even if it's a super long quest that cost a million credits, I'd much rather switch my gunslinger and jedi shadow to their healing counterparts than reroll and play through Tython/Coruscant etc etc again.
Oh and Hoth sucked.
Oh and Hoth sucked.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Pass on it, thought the mount was cool but rest is useless. If I knew it was so easy to get a mount I would have paseed myself.
Alex
Member
There is def latency issues involved (and I ping ~50 ms to my server), they've said so themselves and said they plan on fixing it soon. It's not horrible or anything but it doesn't feel as smooth as it should be and it fucks with a few animations to be sure (Carbine Burst comes to mind)
Warcraft had far worse issues at launch though, I question if anyone who says otherwise was actually there. Sky-high latency, server crashes constantly, gigantic queues for ages on a sub million userbase. Even when you did get in and managed to get some play in the game, especially classes, were outstandingly bug infested and downright incoherent in design. I still laugh when I see those launch talent trees or think about the fact that like HALF of my shit on Warlock was broken.
The things we put up with back in the dark ages! That was then and this is now though, and this is a pretty solid launch for now. Very feature complete, plenty of frills and mostly polished. I just hope Dual Specs aren't too far out.
Was it that long? Man, that was some fun stuff back in the day though. You had to walk all the way out to Ashenvale to play, and it was fun but all of the MMO trappings is what made it REALLY fun back then. Server rivalries and more importantly: fucking with people.
Mind controlling Horde into their War Master for durability damage or the BEST: Mind Controlling Horde, inside of the BG out of the gate and back to a 30 minute queue... MMO trolling is the best trolling.
Warcraft had far worse issues at launch though, I question if anyone who says otherwise was actually there. Sky-high latency, server crashes constantly, gigantic queues for ages on a sub million userbase. Even when you did get in and managed to get some play in the game, especially classes, were outstandingly bug infested and downright incoherent in design. I still laugh when I see those launch talent trees or think about the fact that like HALF of my shit on Warlock was broken.
The things we put up with back in the dark ages! That was then and this is now though, and this is a pretty solid launch for now. Very feature complete, plenty of frills and mostly polished. I just hope Dual Specs aren't too far out.
Was it that long? Man, that was some fun stuff back in the day though. You had to walk all the way out to Ashenvale to play, and it was fun but all of the MMO trappings is what made it REALLY fun back then. Server rivalries and more importantly: fucking with people.
Mind controlling Horde into their War Master for durability damage or the BEST: Mind Controlling Horde, inside of the BG out of the gate and back to a 30 minute queue... MMO trolling is the best trolling.
It's only in the Cantina on Tatooine. Makes sense but sucks at the same time. I want to change the imperial fleet music in the vip room =(
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
Nah, that's for the Strip Club at Cloud City.
Okay, I went with the standard and saved my twenty bucks for .223/5.56 ammo or some other crap I want to buy!
Thanks!
Doncamatic
Member
I haven't tried out Lethality so I can't speak on that but as far as Concealment is concerned I'd say wait until 36 when you'll get Hidden Strike and have maxed the talent Jarring Strike which causes Hidden Strike to knock the target to the ground for 3 seconds. Up until then you're better off being Medicine specced. One tip for playing a dps spec is learn to dismiss your companion if it's low and then resummon it. It serves as a .5 second full heal. Once you hit 40 though and pick up Acid Blade you'll finally feel like a complete class. Up until then it's pretty janky. That's something that Bioware should really work on.