Shift and right clicking on one of the toolbar buttons seems to work as well, i dont know if it locks up the same way but i presume so as i take it that's how iv been locking it up in the first place by holding shift to use the bottom centre toolbar and right clicking the toolbar in the middle of the fight by accident.
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Star Wars: The Old Republic |OT| EA: "Let's blow this thing and go home!"
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Shift and right clicking on one of the toolbar buttons seems to work as well, i dont know if it locks up the same way but i presume so as i take it that's how iv been locking it up in the first place by holding shift to use the bottom centre toolbar and right clicking the toolbar in the middle of the fight by accident.
BattleMonkey
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I thought it was really boring but only played a few levels of it. Everyone seems to say the story for them gets much much better, though seems to have the worst start of all the classes.
From what I've seen and read, the stories are running parallel. Like for Republic you go to Taris early on, but when the Empire players get there it's later on in the "timeline" of the story. Basically 8 stories running at about the same time.
Interfectum
Member
So far I haven't noticed much interaction with the character stories, but I've only scratched the surface... supposedly the jedi knight story ties a lot what goes on near the end.
Castor Krieg
Banned
Go Commando for DA ASSAULT CANNON!
Interfectum
Member
Is anything ever referenced (from what you've seen or heard)? I'm thinking the stuff I do in Act 2 as a Sith Warrior seems pretty damaging to the republic. I was wondering if that's ever mentioned on the republic side.
Wait... what's broken with Full Auto?
I was thinking one day it would have been interesting if they had intertwined the stories somewhat. For instance, (Trooper story spoiler)
What if the Imperial Agent helped to facilitate Havoc squad's defection?
But as for core story, it really does feel like the JK story is the "main" story of the Old Republic. I think someone said that it's based on the original proposal for KOTOR 3, I believe.
For Republic, Commando, Sage, and Scoundrel.
I heard it's the best on the repub side.
They do definitely run in parallel, because when you finish the SW class quest, you actually get a mail informing you about something that happens at the end of the JK questline.
BattleMonkey
Member
Yea they are likely the "main" story especially after reading the Revan novel and what they hint at... and because of one of the JK's companions which is a main character in the novel.
Theres a couple little things that tie into each other, but at the end they all end up around the same state the galaxy is in waiting for the next part of the story.
People keep saying this, but I am loving it even more than the Trooper one. It takes until the end of Taris to pick up though.
It stays pretty much the same. More power, more power, some backstabbings, more power, OH NOES SHIT WENT BAD and TRIUMPH!
It's not bad per se... just really bland. Though I did enjoy the final quest and sticking my lightsaber up the ass of my nemesis.
Spent some time waiting for the Balloon on Tatooine, then got aboard it, waited for it to reach the datacron, but like 2-3 minutes before it reached it (which means, really close to it) it depopped leaving me on the ground... I ran back and it had already departed again, so now it's another long wait.
This sucks, royally.
This sucks, royally.
Interfectum
Member
If I wanted to go dark side with that jedi does it have some pretty good payoffs (if you know).
One thing I'm liking about the Sith Warrior is you can be really bad or quite merciful if you wanted to be. I'm wondering how "bad" can you be as a jedi?
I did the LOD tweak in nvidia inspector (set it at -3), and there is a huge difference. I mostly noticed it in the space combat where the game looked probably 2x better than without the LOD tweak. However, there was a huge performance impact, where I was getting 60 fps all the time during them before, but it was dropping into the low 40s at points with the tweak.
Definitely not going to be using this. This is on dual GTX 580's as well, so I have no clue why it runs like shit.
Definitely not going to be using this. This is on dual GTX 580's as well, so I have no clue why it runs like shit.
You can be pretty merciless, but I haven't seen anything too bad though (this is my level 25 alt.)
DS options are usually just killing people who are standing in your way.
Castor Krieg
Banned
It has a pushback i.e. damage shortens channel time, so it never ever does full damage. The equivalent skill for BH does not have a pushback, nor animation delay. Same problem with Mortar Volley - Trooper needs to wait half the channel time to start shooting, BH fires immediately.
BattleMonkey
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Some dark side choices are pretty evil, but lot of them just make you seem like a jerk.
I frankly find on both sides the non force users as having the better light/dark choices as they are not as restricted by the universe lore.
I liked the story up to that point; where the other classes get better with time, I felt like the consular story gets worse. Plenty of folks really liked it though, so, as with any story, opinions differ
Thanks, as long as it does not return to Korriban levels of fail then i think I can cope.
Perhaps I should create an imperial agent alt, as their story is getting praised.
I know it's all opinion and taste and stuff but... I don't get the greatness in the IA story that other people do. I was reading around and people were really into it, saying stuff like
But to me, it's not the James Bond-esque plot people were claiming it was.
I like the IA VO but other than that, it's been pretty uninteresting.
But I'm enjoying the Consular story, which is widely regarded as the worst. So what do I know?
I'm not sure that's true. I'm pretty sure my BH channeled shot suffers pushback as well.
And Death from Above (I think that's the counterpart to Mortar Volley) I don't think is immediate. It has the flying animation before it starts to shoot.
But I haven't been on my BH in a bit.
how they were super scared of Jadus and bowed down to him because he's so scary! Or how great it was to be able to talk Jadus away on his ship.
I like the IA VO but other than that, it's been pretty uninteresting.
But I'm enjoying the Consular story, which is widely regarded as the worst. So what do I know?
I'm not sure that's true. I'm pretty sure my BH channeled shot suffers pushback as well.
And Death from Above (I think that's the counterpart to Mortar Volley) I don't think is immediate. It has the flying animation before it starts to shoot.
But I haven't been on my BH in a bit.
It's just that the story quality in the game is so low that the Agent story seems awesome in comparison.
But yea, it's pretty tepid.
The BH skill Unload most definitely has pushback, but you can talent a 70% resistance to it.
BattleMonkey
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Some people over hype the IA story, but found it great because it's not stuck in the SW tropes and has no real movie equivalent. Unlike the Jedi or Sith you are not suck in a pattern of story, and you get to see more of the behind the scenes focus of the Empire itself instead of the usual Sith evil doings and backstabbery. Your just a soldier of the empire, doing what you want and your story choices have more variety and allow it to feel more natural than a Sith making awkward light choices.
That is one element that I do enjoy. My character seems to actively dislike the Sith and is just working to make the Empire a better place. But that might just be my own projections.
I think it is insanely over-hyped. Maybe I would enjoy it more if I didn't go in with the expectations that I did.
And I might be alright with the Consular story because of the bad rep that one has.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Nah, you can legitimately go that route with the dialog choices they give. Or you can go the complete opposite route - and it will still feel completely natural. That and how they also give you unique dialog options if you're a non-human is why I'm really digging the IA story.
Oh cool. Because I'm so rolling Chiss for my agent in when I get around doing so.
so GAF, I'm about to hit the big 5-0 on my Gunslinger within a day or two (am I the first level 50 smuggler on GAF Republic?) and I wanted to know how 1.1 will make it much more difficult for me to get my cool LVL 50 gear...
We can't work with the Imps to steal spots anymore? Is that basically it?
We can't work with the Imps to steal spots anymore? Is that basically it?
Sorry, but, completely disagree. When I got Kira Carsen, I played the rest of the game with her and never looked back. I out-leveled most people so just solo'd the game from about 15 on other than a few FP's along the way. Only time I switched companions was for the very last fight of the story where you are forced to use T-7. Rough fight, but solo-able with T7. Luckily for the people who can't do it, this fight will be getting the nerf bat pretty hard very soon.
In any case, here's the tips I give to most people when it comes to playing the JK. They're pretty broad and echoed in this thread, but I feel it bears repeating:
It can be a "big" difference, depending on your server. Basically now, you get 1 bag a day from the ilum dailies, as well as 3 for the ilum weekly. Right now, the two sides just trade caps and you can get your daily/weekly done in about 5 minutes without any effort other than riding your speeder to the right location. Once the patch changes, I think you'll have to actually fight it out for the objectives, which won't be bad if you're on the side with numbers. If you're like me, on a server where the imps outnumber the repubs by a ton, then it could be more difficult for repubs to complete the quest.
In warzones, things might also be a bit harder for you. As it is now, at 50 you play with people under 50, who don't have expertise gear (of course). You can kill them just fine, but against a geared 50, a newbie 50 will get demolished. Upon the patch, you'll be placed in the level 50 bracket, so chances are you'll be fighting against better geared players, which will make winning/getting medals for you a bit more difficult.
That said, it's still retarded easily to get pvp gear. You'll still get your 3 wins a day and 9 a week for the pvp daily/weekly, and I bet ilum won't be too bad, though I admit that's to be seen.
BattleMonkey
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So the game shouldn't involve any player thinking?
SW has no issues playing through it's quest storyline, everyone is whining about JK's.
I didn't have to do anything to be decent at my Juggernaught, I've breezed throughout the entire thing so far, in my 40's, and not once had died more than once on anything, and never died on an actual class quest. Just got to keep geared up, your characters geared up, and use the right companion for what your doing and your class build. But you know.... this is how you have to do it with all classes....
JK should have probably been the most carebear class since most casual Star Wars fans will go that route.
Seeing how there are people who have no problems when leveling a JK, it definitely sounds like a learn to play issue. Perhaps games that involve more than 3 buttons to press and forces you to fully utilize your abilities are too complex for certain people.
Oh it's DEFINITELY a learn to play issue. A lot of people come from WoW where they have this 4 button rotation down and everything melts in front of them. The JK, by level 35, has 15 different OFFENSIVE abilities. This doesn't count the defensive ones at all which definitely need to be used. Friend of mine calls this the "megaelixir syndrom" where people feel they need to save those 1-3 minute cooldowns for the big fights when, realistically, they can use them for every other or every third fight.
I didn't ask anyone to do anything special in my post other than gear up, use a companion, and use cooldowns. Sorry, but you can't steamroll all the content in your starter gear and yes, you will have to play the actual game and not mindlessly right click to loot. How does that make a class broken? This is very simple and very basic MMO mechanics.
Alex
Member
The game drinks GPUs like crazy. My CPU is barely utilized while my GPU is always at 100.
I quite like the Sith Warrior storyline. Act 1 was pretty glorious, Act 2 was boring until the ending and Act 3 could potentially have the most satisfying ending out of all the acts, I'm not up to it yet but I have a good feeling.
Also I tried leveling as a Sith Juggenaut in the Fury tree and it was a rubbish experience. Pretty much death everywhere. Death to 2 or more silvers and definite death to golds with one or more normal backups. Respecced to the actual tanking tree and now I'm soloing all these quests when I'm 2 levels below the recommended. So a tip to those struggling is to respec and try something new I guess, because there's a possibility it's just your skill tree that's shit and not you.
Also I tried leveling as a Sith Juggenaut in the Fury tree and it was a rubbish experience. Pretty much death everywhere. Death to 2 or more silvers and definite death to golds with one or more normal backups. Respecced to the actual tanking tree and now I'm soloing all these quests when I'm 2 levels below the recommended. So a tip to those struggling is to respec and try something new I guess, because there's a possibility it's just your skill tree that's shit and not you.
Blah blah blah Republic Scum propaganda.
IA Storyline is the best story in Bioware history.
RadicalRad
Member
I think that one of the problems that crop up about particular classes having issues solo leveling, is that TOR has attracted a large audience of first time MMO players. Having to read and understand 20 different abilities and reading and planning an entire talent tree is quite the daunting concept for newcomers to the genre.
Honesty though the difficulty soloing does ramp up a bit as you get closer to 50. Belly and Voss can be a tad difficult. Specially the elite in Voss I've coined "douchebag in a cave".
Honesty though the difficulty soloing does ramp up a bit as you get closer to 50. Belly and Voss can be a tad difficult. Specially the elite in Voss I've coined "douchebag in a cave".
Anticitizen One
Banned
Whats so bad about taris? I just arrived there as a Jedi Knight
I am not at all new to the genre. I've played MMOs for I think a bit over 10 years now.
And I'm still overwhelmed and have difficulty in the later levels with SWTOR.
Sure I suck at games, but I don't think it's a "new player" thing. There's just something about the ability/encounter design that is more difficult for some people.
And I'm still overwhelmed and have difficulty in the later levels with SWTOR.
Sure I suck at games, but I don't think it's a "new player" thing. There's just something about the ability/encounter design that is more difficult for some people.
Azzurri
Member
Taris on the Imp side is in the mid 30's so it's probably twice as large, but since republic starts there around 16 it's not as bad.
cpp_is_king
Member
Mostly it's just ugly, there's basically 1 type of enemy in the entire zone (enemy is also ugly), and all the enemies are positioned so that much of the time they are unavoidable and you must fight them. I don't know, I just basically didn't like it.