CAW
Member
Nothing like waking up on your day off, looking forward to a day of TOR, only to find out they can't make up their damn minds when they should take the servers offline. Feck.
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Star Wars: The Old Republic |OT| EA: "Let's blow this thing and go home!"
- Thread starter Emitan
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Shh.. Be careful what you say in this thread.
If you say anything negative or anything to support a negative claim, you'll be labeled as a troll with an agenda against BioWare who actively wants SWTOR to fail by spreading false rumours.
Seriously. This thread...
The Sage rock throw thing also has to play out animation before it actually does anything. Sorc equivalent is instant with the lightning.
Or starting a mortar volley, then deciding you want to reposition, but since the skill is already active you'd put it on CD without doing any damage.
I know last night's 1 AM PST patch was labeled as an emergency patch for the Ilum stuff. Not sure if the one at the moment is related, but I'm not sure if they're even going to do anything about the people who took advantage of 1.1 Ilum for their BM gear.
kyo_daikun
Member
Yea all offline just as I get home to log in. Almost peak time for europeans as well...
Official website is down as well
Official website is down as well
4 hours I believe.
BrokenSymmetry
Member
And we're down for maintenance. No more playing for us Europeans today
kyo_daikun
Member
Says 7:30pm GMT on the main screen so thats over 3 hours away, normally they seem to be back up before the announced time
Mr. Luchador
Member
2 hours late on their posted maintenance times too.
LumpOfCole
Member
I'm wondering if the emergency patch will also renerf slicing missions. Boxes were giving quite a bit more last night.
Tallshortman
Member
Are you serious? People were up in arms yesterday when the ilum exploits/bug happened.
Nooooo. I hope not. I need credits.
I know last night's 1 AM PST patch was labeled as an emergency patch for the Ilum stuff. Not sure if the one at the moment is related, but I'm not sure if they're even going to do anything about the people who took advantage of 1.1 Ilum for their BM gear.
This PvP situation makes me feel like Sisyphus with the damn rock. After getting farmed by geared 50s in pre-1.1, the introduction of the 50 bracket seemed like it fixed almost everything: my lowbie alts could compete in their bracket (and pre-50 WZs are fun as hell), and there was a pretty even playing field at 50, since the valor 60 grind was a long one and most people were geared equivalently. Now it's back to being farmed by the poopsock brigade who picked up 20-30 valor levels in a day. (In theory, at least. In practice, I'll just put my 50 on the shelf.)
Diatribe1974
Member
Okay, Bioware needs to fix their "start" times for this stuff. Said that downtime was to start at 6am EST for me (in their big long list of time zones) and here it is starting at 11am? Wut? Seriously, I didn't log in till almost 11am thinking that it might at least have taken a huge chunk of time off the downtime, or outright be done (as servers were down yesterday as well).
Castor Krieg
Banned
Leveled Sorcerer to 22 in one day, feels good. The class is godly. I absolutely adore playing the Dark Side, some quests get crazy funny e.g. (end Balmorra spoiler):
On the other hand, I picked Artifice, and I'm having a hard time with it, it's simply too boring + you outlevel the items you make very fast, so there's no point to try and do blue/epic before 50, at which point you can get better items from Ilum dailies. Only thing you would have to buy is the crystal, but that can be bought from GTN.
Tempted to try slicing, but on Dromund Kaas I saw no slicing nodes at all.
you get to Republic prison to rescue a son of your military contact on the planet; son happens to be a Sith as well. He's been sent to retrieve a powerful artifact. What can you do? Instead of letting him go you open the prison cell, kill the guy, take the artifact, later kill the father, and kill another scientist for good measure. NO WITNESSES!
On the other hand, I picked Artifice, and I'm having a hard time with it, it's simply too boring + you outlevel the items you make very fast, so there's no point to try and do blue/epic before 50, at which point you can get better items from Ilum dailies. Only thing you would have to buy is the crystal, but that can be bought from GTN.
Tempted to try slicing, but on Dromund Kaas I saw no slicing nodes at all.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Out of all the MMOs I've played (SWG, Matrix, WoW and this) SWG is the only one I've enjoyed when it came to crafting. All the rest, as you mentioned, seemed to offer very little other than a money sink (as items were useless within a level of being created).
Really wish SWG had had 'better?' support? Better management? I don't know. That combat update really seemed to be the beginning of the end. Was still really enjoyable though. Would have been nice to see better management of player towns/cities too.
BAH, missing SWG now.
Really wish SWG had had 'better?' support? Better management? I don't know. That combat update really seemed to be the beginning of the end. Was still really enjoyable though. Would have been nice to see better management of player towns/cities too.
BAH, missing SWG now.
Now I wonder if I should roll a Sorcerer or continue my Operative; any opinions from people who have played both?
I'm duoing with a BH Mercenary friend. I chose an Operative because I wanted to stab things, but now I'm slightly bummed that they use blaster rifles because I've been using BRs on my Vanguard to 50. On the other hand, Sorcerers sound quite fun and their gear looks pretty cool.
kyo_daikun
Member
I'm assuming everyone got the email about the founder title thing, well timed again by bioware etc (doubt it will stop most people from unsubbing)
Interfectum
Member
Yeah I had a good laugh when I got that email.
What are the details? I'm at work and can't open the e-mail link.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Not sure if I should be worried or not they're trying to 'bribe' people to stick around with these plastic incentives.
Castor Krieg
Banned
I got Operative to Lvl 33, just before Act II. People say it gets way better after the ending of Act I, but till that time it's boring as hell. You spend 33-34 levels chasing down nameless
terrorists
My general impression is, even if "Force" storylines are not so subtle, they are way more epic in scope e.g. as a JK lvl 40 you face (HUGE SPOILER!!!)
Sith Emperor
Kind of lame that the PR is written so the medal and title seem like two different things.
V I believe you consume the medal to obtain the title, so it's really just one thing you're getting. Really, anyone playing the game week 1 and earlier should have been given the Founder title. =\
Interfectum
Member
kyo_daikun
Member
We would like to thank each and every one of you for helping to make Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ one of the most successful MMO launches of all time. To show our appreciation, from now through March 19th, 2012, 12:01AM EST, we are rewarding early members of The Old Republic community with a unique Founder’s medal* and title.
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Yeah threw me at first too, thought you got the title and could equip the medal to show on your character or something at first, still think it stinks they never gave a title or anything to the beta testers
The coin is just the item you use from the ingame mail to get the founder title, it dissapears after you use it.
DurielBlack
Member
I'd like to know this myself since I have been in queue for half an hour to get into the website.
kyo_daikun
Member
On a random note if anyone has either a Magenta or Purple crystal for sale I will buy it up
New patch (Main assets 32) is about 10mb in size btw.
New patch (Main assets 32) is about 10mb in size btw.
Alex
Member
The heck are you goin' on about? I've seen very little of that type of behavior in here. It's been largely filled with all sorts of discussion, critique and praise alike from all walks.
Official threads for MMOs actually tend to be some of the betters on GAF. At least from my experience, you can go into a topic, speak your mind, and not be ripped apart by hive mind or drive-by smarm unlike a lot of the rest of the board. There's always a few extremists who pick fights and go too far but that's life.
I always like crafting, all kinds of crafting, synthesis, alchemy, etc are something I love in games but my nitpick is as of late in MMOs where its just not useful. Where it's 90% dedicated towards gear and
1.) Is obnoxious to craft while leveling
2.) Useless compared to end game PvP and PvE rewards.
It's a real shame, I'd really like to see it catch on as something big. Can't think of many good ones in the EQ-vein of titles though that I've sampled (crafting was great in UO!!)
I remember Final Fantasy XI doing it pretty well in a way that would suit the modern sense. Materials dropping from rare enemies and bosses that were funneled into popular and unique options and the HQ procs that made things stupid rare at times.
Not sure what, if anything, SWTOR does in that regard yet. It was handled in a very stupid way in classic WoW (fucking resist gear) and a very, very useless and mundane way in modern WoW.
Cipher Agent title is the only title for me.
Yeah and there were a group of people vehemently defending it and saying all the people who were unhappy with it have no right to be because it's no big deal or whatever and it's impossible to expect BioWare to respond to it in less than a day.
I guess it's kind of typical of GAF OTs where any detractors in the thread are labeled as trolls. Because it's impossible to have legitimate problems with a game and post in its OT or something.
Maybe I'm listening too much to a certain voice in this thread.
Believe it or not there is an actual thing called constructive negativity on one hand. On the other hand is just outright bullshit, exaggeration, and laughable stupidity.
Constructive negativity would be people getting upset over the Illum fiasco and maybe venting about it a little bit. Or, people wondering why there is no cancel button on their subscription page.
Outright Bullshit, exaggeration, and laughable stupidity would be people making dumb statements that Bioware has crafted an insidious plot or some grand conspiracy to stop people from canceling their subscription, when the facts are that it was simply a browser related issue that didn't happen to everyone (as evidenced by many people posting screenshots showing a cancel button on their own account page).
Or people posting a 2 page thesis on the official forums about how someone at Bioware should be fired and that he and his guild could do a better job of running this game than the trained monkeys at Bioware who are currently running it. If only Bioware would fire the clowns who have years of software development and years of experience working on this game, and hire him and his guild, they could fix the Illum problem in the next 10 minutes. Yeah.. guys who probably couldn't find a line of computer code if they had a map and compass and have zero experience in software development.
There's no problem with being upset over what happened yesterday. There is a problem with unrealistic expectations and hyperbole. A fix happening a day later isn't slow. A fix happening 2 hours after the problem has been discovered isn't realistic. Turning off the servers in the interim is terrible and the person who suggested that should be laughed at, and justifiably.
I don't defend the problem, but I have no problem with the timeline of the actions and solution, assuming the patch today does indeed fix it.
kyo_daikun
Member
Seems that way, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I'm sure there are tons of people not on GAF or official forums that will use it/like it/feel special. However vocal, forum inhabitants are still a minority
EDIT: Nevermind. Don't want to cause trouble.
I don't really care enough to continue. I'm not even all that negative on the game. Ilum thing and cancel button doesn't really affect me. So I'll say I'm wrong and leave it at that.
CAW
Member
I have a 34 Operative (medicine spec) and I paused him and leveled an Assassin to level 32 and haven't looked back. The Operative is still fun to play, but I found the best build for leveling solo is medicine and I just got a bit tried of it. It wasn't difficult and I didn't struggle or anything, just felt like a change.
The Assassin is a lot of fun. It feels more like a rogue but you also have a bit of range if you need be an some decent CC. Plus stealth, which has proven useful being on a PvP server.
I've always been bad with alts but with this game I have a mega alt itch.
I have:
- 34 Operative
- 32 Assassin
- 28 Trooper
- 18 Sorcerer
- 18 Marauder
- 18 Mercenary
- 17 Sentinel
Alex
Member
Call 'em stupid and move on, child-like retorts accomplish the same thing on the internet, and they get it done faster!
Was the insane valor thing ever verified? There was so much misinformation going around yesterday I find it hard to believe. That said, faster valor gain would be appreciated. Grind is too long.
maabus1999
Member
First step maybe to fix Ilum is decrease valor gains if your faction has more then 24 (or even less) players within say 100 to 200 meters of a kill.
Second step is increase rewards for taking/defending points.
Third step is possibly add something that can shake up a map that is in a stalemate or over zerged (say if a point is held for 10 minutes, a beacon on the map opens up that the other faction can capture to call in an orbital strike to soften up the players at the position).
Just quick 5 minute ideas but need to do something similar.
Second step is increase rewards for taking/defending points.
Third step is possibly add something that can shake up a map that is in a stalemate or over zerged (say if a point is held for 10 minutes, a beacon on the map opens up that the other faction can capture to call in an orbital strike to soften up the players at the position).
Just quick 5 minute ideas but need to do something similar.
I think anyone with any experience working at a software company will have more realistic expectations of time frames for fixes and rollouts. Having said that, the planet instances should have been designed to be modular and Ilum should have been closed down when the bug was discovered.