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Star Wars: The Old Republic |OT| EA: "Let's blow this thing and go home!"
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BattleMonkey
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Same happens with any player who reaches lvl 50 later down the line and other players are full of legit geared characters. PVP gear always creates a problem.
Usually this happens gradually and eventually leaves new players at a great disadvantage, another one of the reasons I wasn't really a fan of the whole level 50 bracket. Most of the time it doesn't happen overnight.
There is a preference you can select that will compare vs your companion as well as yourself when you highlight an item in your bags.
They're basically 'equipment' for droid characters you happen to have. Core = chest armor, etc.
Except that's not actually what happened. This only happened on a few servers and even then a lot of those people were not getting THAT much valor.
Keller's Void was completely unaffected as far as I can tell.
You're pretty wrong about that, it was a fuckload of valor for some folks.
You must be an imp!
The argument goes both ways, maybe your server was one of the few that was unaffected.
I've seen PLENTY of streams/videos/screenshots of many servers that looked exactly like what I saw:
The rate of valor gain in Ilum on any of the heavy or higher population servers was absolutely insane. Going from 1 to 100 is obviously not what happened but gaining an extreme amount of valor in a relatively short amount of time compared to what it would take from grinding warzones is exactly what happened
I'm not. The exploit was that people were (with large groups) getting into the opposing faction's base and AOEing the spawn point to kill people as soon as they arrived. They were only getting valor if people were spawning.
On KV pubs had control of the planet all day and no one went into the base.
pretty sure CT is not an imp since we were terribly outmanned in GAF vs GAF
doubt imps got much valor on KV
cause reps are pansies!
Tallshortman
Member
From sampling the ilum population last night, the valor exploit did not happen on Keller's void simply because the imps couldn't get enough people organized to try and farm the turrets before the hotfix nor were they able to camp the speeder landing.
However, there still needs to be a valor rollback.
However, there still needs to be a valor rollback.
I played for 3-4 hours in the morning when 1.1 went up and we kept the Imperials out of our base the whole time. There was even a time where we got into the Imperial base (until we got pushed out by the flood of Imps that decided to all go to Ilum). There was a little camping outside our base but after awhile they all ran away for some reason. If that kept up for the rest of the day then yeah, KV probably isn't as affected by the exploit as some other servers. I basically never had what was happening in those screenshots happen to me.
Ah, I see. On my server at least, it was pretty bad. Like I said, a bunch of guildmates gained 10+ levels to reach BM status in just a few hours. That's SO MANY WZs skipped.
DangerousDave
Member
Reached a wall with my scoundrel, with Diago (end of Tatooine).
My companion (yes, is Bowdaar, that is not the best companion, but I don't like Corso) die before reaching half of Diago bar, and then I'm not even able to take out a quarter of the bar. He heals a lot (more that I'm able to counter with distraction) and hit very hard.
I'll go for the bonus series and maybe even the start of the next planet, to get better equipment, and try again at 30 (i'm 28). But that guy is much harder than any other gold of the same level.
My companion (yes, is Bowdaar, that is not the best companion, but I don't like Corso) die before reaching half of Diago bar, and then I'm not even able to take out a quarter of the bar. He heals a lot (more that I'm able to counter with distraction) and hit very hard.
I'll go for the bonus series and maybe even the start of the next planet, to get better equipment, and try again at 30 (i'm 28). But that guy is much harder than any other gold of the same level.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Oh right. I'm not even sure Imperial Agents get a droid. AH well, thanks for clearing that up
I see spawn camping. I don't see massive valor gains.
Ya this class quest was a harder than the stuff leading up to it. I think I died a handful of times.
I beat it with bowdaar as a slinger with biochem as my only heal. I kept throwing distractions at his med packs. and when bowdaar went down I had full life and enough dps to outlast him.
you could throw down a flash nade or dirty kick for some healing time though no?
I think I was one level over the quest level though.
Yeah, that's the thing. Here's the Reddit thread on the matter:
http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/comments/on79q/no_one_has_any_proof_of_extreme_valor_gains_im/
What class is this? Commando? It looks awesome.
Also that assassin on the last page looks incredible too.
Correct
I needed to get a guildmate to group with me for that. And then I had to do the same for someone else. The quest is brutal.
Is this where you have to fight two people bosses with the naive Jedi?
You have to attack the fat dude and ignore the jedi and sith.
Yeah, also, use Corso, and have Corso harpoon the fatty outta there, while you just start hammering away on Diago. Don't forget to interrupt when he's healing! It took me a couple of tries, but once you ignore the Sith and focus on Diago (pulling him away from the action), it's not too bad.
Top left. That's not even taking into consideration that sometimes the log doesn't show all gains when it's happening too fast.
If a spawn-camped pub got that much, imagine how fast the Imps were racking it up (especially at 200+ valor per kill).
If that's not proof, I don't know what it is. The damage was done, and it shows. Warzones are full of Imp Battlemasters now. That's all there is to it.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
As someone who plays these game for PvP, not being able to have 3 panels open at once is a much more pressing concern than yesterday.
Alex
Member
All of the elite quests and tough mobs have made me really enjoy the leveling. I fucking hate mindless difficulties, especially in games with such flourished combat models.
If I made an MMO though, every single damn quest would have two buttons at the bottom: Accept - Solo, Accept - Elite, and elite mobs would scale to the number of people in your group and they'd give more exp, more currency, and higher level items.
If I made an MMO though, every single damn quest would have two buttons at the bottom: Accept - Solo, Accept - Elite, and elite mobs would scale to the number of people in your group and they'd give more exp, more currency, and higher level items.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
It is more difficult to just coast through things on auto-pilot in TOR. i dont think most people have still got the whole TOR combat pacing issue down yet though. It reminds me of Dragon Age: Origins where everything that matters happens in the immediate battle. The cooldowns are short enough where they should be used in every or every other pull. Recuperating is at most 10 seconds so there is very little rest between fights. Every fight should be played as going all out where nearly every ability (minus the 20 min companion ability) is used.
Alex
Member
Bwuh on the last part, how does that work? Would be neat if you could break the class restrictions as well. (Three MMO sins I want to go away: Solo encouraged leveling, hard factions, class restrictions!)
Yeah, I want to know why I never heard that awesome music anywhere in the actual game.
I've heard it in the game before. In the beta, it used to play on Esseles when you got to the imperial ship.
I wonder why it was removed. The music in the game has been pretty disappointing.
cpp_is_king
Member
Yea, thanks btw
I honestly like corso because hes a good tank if geared.
Keep in mind the jefi should actually CC Diago and you can focus on the Sith first. Take off Corso's distract so that youll get some aggro, then pop All in and medpac as needed, stuns, etc.
Even with this i only got Diago to half health (and killed the Sith) solo, but then i needed help
I like the music but half of it is the same 4 tracks from KotOR or the prequels.
There are so much great tracks they made but a lot of it doesn't get used. I was especially disappointed in the CE soundtrack because it didn't even have a lot of the tracks that are IN THE GAME, let alone the ones not in-game. I hope they start using them for the new content.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
The game launched a month ago.
Does not compute. A month to get to level 50 and already have battlemaster rank, before the exploit, and you consider that a long grind?
Battlemaster is level 60 valor out of 100
I like how this man thinks.
Perhaps there should be an option for 'hardcore' servers as well. Keep the pansy stuff on regular servers for the common folk.
Wat. It was 20 valor per kill. there were people streaming in all day. it was tons of valor.
Yes, yes I do? Doing Wzs 10 hours a day or more for weeks on end is a long fucking grind.
People achieving something doesn't make it not a grind. If nobody had it yet, I would wager an average player would not get it for YEARS. As it is I expect most people to take the better part of a year to do it (just doing their dailies/weeklies).
I don't understand how anyone who has been playing the game for the past month can't see how the valor gains in Ilum were completely disproportional with the valor gain rate that people were experiencing in warzones previously. ~500 valor in about one minute in that one screenshot above is about one half to a third of what the average person could expect from a 10-15 minute warzone
It was only happening if people spawned. A screenshot of a quick burst does not mean a continual stream all day.
"Long grind" 10 years ago = 1 year
"Long grind" 5 years ago = 6 month
"Long grind" today = 1 month
"Long grind" next year = 1 day
If you control all points, you get up to 180 on bonus. So if the spawn point was being farmed, you would get 200 per kill. 20 is just the base, non-bonus number.
I had problems at first, but then I split up the two elites and it was really easy. I'm a gunslinger though, so I'm not sure if our DPS is different.
I had Corso grapple Diago to the bridge away from the Sith (I guess you can't do that with Bowdaar...). Diago is in some CC thing from the Jedi NPC. I unloaded everything I had on him. The CC didn't break until he was almost dead. Then I just interrupted his heals when I could. The Jedi NPC held out against the Sith just fine so I went and finished her off pretty easily after.
Regarding the Diago (Smuggler) fight, I had a much easier time killing Diago first, since he is squishier and a healer. I used bowdar, focused down Diago ASAP (interrupting casts) and then ran away and regrouped while the jedi and sith fought. Once my companion and I were back up to full, I went back in to easily finish off the sith.
You might need to have bowdar taunt Diago and then LOS him to move him away from the sith, so the AOEs don't own Bowdar.
You might need to have bowdar taunt Diago and then LOS him to move him away from the sith, so the AOEs don't own Bowdar.