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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT2| GL HF GG
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mescalineeyes
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Q8D3vil said:
Jinro, the average EU player
mescalineeyes
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Hazaro said:
I am so confused right now. wat?
mescalineeyes
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I do open catz 7 pool on steppes, but jungle basin? :/
mescalineeyes said:
T is nearly unbeatable if he is better than a 6 year old who first got SCII. As a Zerg, you WILL get denied to your 3rd, and as soon as planetary goes up in his 3rd, it is GG time.
There are extreme strategies that MIGHT work against someone caught offguard (like expanding to his doorsteps first, etc), but that wont work consistently against players with proper scouting. Zerg lacks the tools to force T to do anything that changes that. T can mess up by focusing on ground-only and you have Spire, but that is a map-independent mistake...
mescalineeyes
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spazzfish said:I just don't know what to do with zerg against storm users
apparently roach is the way to go, or so I hear.
Be more active with your Overlords and scouting in general (I like to place one at every base), you play a lot of the game blind and have no idea what he is doing.
Your upgrades were so late, like 15 minutes into the game and you only just start to get +1 and you didn't grab +2's until 25 minutes in.
He was being way too passive and you should have expanded and you needed way more Drones.
Should have made some Broodlords also.
Your upgrades were so late, like 15 minutes into the game and you only just start to get +1 and you didn't grab +2's until 25 minutes in.
He was being way too passive and you should have expanded and you needed way more Drones.
Should have made some Broodlords also.
I've been messing around with Day9s ZvZ build and I'm not the biggest fan of it. Playing defensive feels awful, especially since you're in the dark most of the time.
I've found that playing offensively with Roach/Speedling in ZvZ is pretty effective. Open 14 gas 14 pool Speedling leaving a single drone in gas, Overlord 15, get a Queen and spawn four sets of lings. Then, expand on 21 and drop a Roach Warren straight after. Pressure forwards towards your opponents ramp and push up when Speed finishes at the 5 minute mark to see what he's doing.
From there, squeeze out a few drones, depending on how many units he builds, and then pressure like crazy with Roach/Ling.
If he techs too quickly, he dies. If he drones too heavily, he dies. If he produces a lot of units, well, then it comes down to micro and your ability to inject.
On super big maps like Shakura's, I'm not sure how well this style of play will fare (I haven't played it enough to form a conclusion yet), but on the small to medium maps, it's pretty awesome.
I've found that playing offensively with Roach/Speedling in ZvZ is pretty effective. Open 14 gas 14 pool Speedling leaving a single drone in gas, Overlord 15, get a Queen and spawn four sets of lings. Then, expand on 21 and drop a Roach Warren straight after. Pressure forwards towards your opponents ramp and push up when Speed finishes at the 5 minute mark to see what he's doing.
From there, squeeze out a few drones, depending on how many units he builds, and then pressure like crazy with Roach/Ling.
If he techs too quickly, he dies. If he drones too heavily, he dies. If he produces a lot of units, well, then it comes down to micro and your ability to inject.
On super big maps like Shakura's, I'm not sure how well this style of play will fare (I haven't played it enough to form a conclusion yet), but on the small to medium maps, it's pretty awesome.
mescalineeyes
Banned
not really a fan of scouting-independent builds, as I don't think there are any that "just work"
this is not a mac :>
this is not a mac :>
TheRagnCajun
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V_Arnold said:
I don't understand. The backdoor is really tough to defend on that map. Thats an advantage for Zerg, no?
mescalineeyes
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I wonder how loud the community outcry has to become for us to get a balanced set of maps.
nilbog21 said:
Congrats on the promotion! Now you can relax before they come out with grand masters level. What was your rating in diamond before you got promoted? I'm playing 2500-2700 rated diamond and some masters level players at the moment. My rating is only 2350ish, with a bonus pool of around 300. I'm pretty sure it's cause my hidden rating is higher than my actual rating since I stopped playing consistently a while back but I'm not really sure what they factor in for promotion.
on what planet is it tough to defend?TheRagnCajun said:
it takes a year and a half to backtrack and hit the back, meanwhile the defender has a ramp going right there. terran can defend both without splitting his forces, zerg has to split to reasonably pressure both entrances.
thats assuming you can even get the rocks down...
he was less than a thou.ezrarh said:
its really easy to rankup when you dont have many games played, a small 10 win run on the ladder is nothing for a player with a fw hundred games, but when you've got less than 100 played the system swings wildly because the system is less certain of your actual mmr.
Man, mutas are just flat out the toughest thing to deal with in the game. I've figured out how to avoid banelings well enough, but mutas are just to freaking fast. You have to set up defenses for them everywhere, because if you give chase they're so fast they'll get away and set up in another spot. Thors help, but turrets are basically a waste of resources against any decent sized ball of them.
Any tips on dealing with these when they mass up? I'm a Terran player, by the way.
Any tips on dealing with these when they mass up? I'm a Terran player, by the way.
fatty
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I know this is coming way out of left field, but anyone else here watch SC matches on their PSP Go?
It's supposed to play MP4 and I can download the Day9Dailies as MP4 yet no luck in playing them. Just wondering if anyone else might be in the same boat. The PSP Go seems to be real picky on what type of MP4 videos it will play.
It's supposed to play MP4 and I can download the Day9Dailies as MP4 yet no luck in playing them. Just wondering if anyone else might be in the same boat. The PSP Go seems to be real picky on what type of MP4 videos it will play.
so disappointing too.Spl1nter said:
you fight off some harsh early aggression thinking you're playing some crazy strong macro build... then you get to his base and he's lifting his main to his natural and you're like "oh... i was never in danger, was i? *sigh*"
jasonng said:
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anyone want to be depressed?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=185691
Pandaman said:
Every time someone says "but zerg won 2 gsl" i want to punch them through the internet.
but teamliquid instantly made me smile in the very next thread.Deadman said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJM2B7Bxjg8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiBlAN9faMw
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Forget name but should be a few programs thats convert video files for certain devices like PSP. I believe certain versions of handbrake do.fatty said:
Deadly said:
I think I'm missing some stuff in the middle, but I guess he did some searches on blip.tv for church and found djWHEAT's show Live on Three: Church of eSports and did a review of it. djWHEAT talked about it and I guess let him know his show wasn't really about Christianity and then this preacher dude did some research and fell in with Starcraft people.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Where the peeps. I had to reenter Gaf channel today...Options lie to me!
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