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[TheRagnCajun]

awww, poor Terran.

Maybe think about doing another strat than the usual Tank/Thor/Marine.

I'm not dumb enough to open with that on shakuras.

 

[IceMarker]

Welcome back ladies and gentlemen to the eighth weekly GAF night! This week will be a bit extra cool thanks to Blizzard for releasing the official custom Blizzard maps! That means after my usual stream of 1v1 matches, we will break out the party hats and give a shot with Aiur Chef, StarJeweled, and Left 2 Die. (I'm hoping the maps allow spectators.) Anyways, I look forward to all playing with you tonight!

The Weekly NeoGAF Starcraft II Nights
-Wednesdays starting @ 6pm PDT (9pm EST)
-Game types:
<1v1>
<2v2>
<3v3>
<4v4>
<Custom Maps>
<FFA>

Streams and Misc. Info
-MrMister's Stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mrmister-live
-Corran Horn's Stream: http://www.justin.tv/corran666
-Cheeto's Stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sc2-gaf-night
-Hazard's Stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Ner0
-Mumble Info: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399065

Also, EU buddies who have an NA account are gladly welcome to join us if the traditional start time doesn't bother you. (Just make sure you join #NeoGAF)
VIVA LA REVOLUTION

 

[Cheeto]

I'll be on tonight but I'm sure for how long. I've been going hard at the gym and I need my sleeps

 

[Stevie Gerrard]

Even though I'm terrible, it could be fun to start entering tournaments. Apart from Craft Cup what other tournaments are there for the EU that allow anyone to enter and are held pretty regularly?

ukstarcraft does weekly cups http://ukstarcraft.net/category/weekly-cups/

If by terrible you mean below diamond you can enter the amateur one. I played in it last friday, pretty much all of us were platinum players, I played awful and lost first round but I've entered again this week

 

[jasonng]

Tonight, I demand a 1v1 between me and panda on StarJeweled commentated by Feep and Scogoth. Knowing panda though, he'd be scared shitless facing me.

 

[Corran Horn]

I will be home around 5 maybe just before 6 tonight. School till 4:30 every wednesday but I should be there.

 

[Ikuu]

Played my game, got someone just outside the top #200 and I lost

 

[Haunted]

Map makers are starting to put out some beautiful maps. Not very good maps to play on, mind you, but some cool looking stuff.


Maze Hill

High Island

 

[Meeru]

Map makers are starting to put out some beautiful maps. Not very good maps to play on, mind you, but some cool looking stuff.


Maze Hill

High Island

Reminds me of Heroes of Light and Magic

 

[(._.)]

I'll play if I'm welcome! Just go to join custom game and look for #NeoGAF?

 

[Procarbine]

I want to play the shit out of maze hill. wow.

 

[Procarbine]

I'll play if I'm welcome! Just go to join custom game and look for #NeoGAF?

Join the NeoGAF channel and hop into mumble. You don't have to have a mic, but it will be fun to listen, and it let's Mr. know you're there!

 

[twofold]

12 drone rush ZvT on Steppes is the greatest thing ever. So good.

 

[(._.)]

I have a mic but have never used mumble. Just installed and I'm guessing the channel for it will just show up under US?

 

[mescalineeyes]

12 drone rush ZvT on Steppes is the greatest thing ever. So good.

don't get used to doing that against T, sometimes they remember that their workers can repair each other and then you fail.

now ZvP is a whole other cup of cake

 

[IceMarker]

Streaming live now for a couple hours.

 

[WedgeX]

Hurray! GAF night!

 

[Pandaman]

I have a mic but have never used mumble. Just installed and I'm guessing the channel for it will just show up under US?

quote to see.

 

[jasonng]

I'll be late for gaf night tonight. I'll be on a little later.

 

[Corran Horn]

My stream up
http://www.justin.tv/corran666

 

[Meeru]

Ill be on a two week pto from next week so I can participate in the gaf nights!! Here's hopingthey release blizz dota

 

[ezrarh]

Now I have to deal with Splinter's shit talking because of my terrible play =(

 

[Corran Horn]

Now I have to deal with Splinter's shit talking because of my terrible play =(

Dont worry, I beat him the other day.

 

[-COOLIO-]

don't get used to doing that against T, sometimes they remember that their workers can repair each other and then you fail.

now ZvP is a whole other cup of cake

oh shiiiiat i never thought of that

 

[Slavik81]

Now I have to deal with Splinter's shit talking because of my terrible play =(

You've never lost to me, have you?

 

[Procarbine]

Now I have to deal with Splinter's shit talking because of my terrible play =(

Got you brah.

 

[Spl1nter]

Got you brah.

Ya, why I said at start of match you would win. I cant win zvz

 

[Procarbine]

Ya, why I said at start of match you would win. I cant win zvz

It's ok, sometimes I look and things and just assume I win, then I don't notice 5 void rays and lose.

 

[Spl1nter]

It's ok, sometimes I look and things and just assume I win, then I don't notice 5 void rays and lose.

lol. Reason why roach all-ins are bad ideas without scouting info. If only you hydra all in like me

 

[Pandaman]

lol. Reason why roach all-ins are bad ideas without scouting info. If only you hydra all in like me

roach allins beat startech most of the time, but pro just completely ignored the battle in favour of critical gyser micromanagement.

he could have tooled all the probes and won if he wasnt microing dem gysers.

 

[Q8D3vil]

i woke up early today but i was late on gaf night.
played a game with ultron then went to eat breakfast.
gg ultron

 

[Procarbine]

roach allins beat startech most of the time, but pro just completely ignored the battle in favour of critical gyser micromanagement.

he could have tooled all the probes and won if he wasnt microing dem gysers.

I was thinking about all the mutas I wanted to build later man!

 

[ezrarh]

You've never lost to me, have you?

Nope. My decision to not get colossi was as inexplicable as a zerg deciding to base trade with a protoss.

edit: grammar

 

[Ikuu]

So it seems every Protoss on the US server just 4gates every single game.

 

[Pancakes]

So it seems every Protoss on the US server just 4gates every single game.

Hey that's not true!

Spoiler

I 5 gate all in!

 

[IceMarker]

So I finally decided to pop open the update Map Editor, I fixed the balance problem with Main Base vision and fixed a couple Doodads on (4) Cross Sector. I also made a minor fix to (4) Khala Divide.

 

[Hazaro]

Been Playing Rift.

Damned MMOs

 

[PandaPandaPanda]

So it seems every Protoss on the US server just 4gates every single game.

it's a safe build so i can see why so many people do it

it's also frustrating too because if they aren't you can't get up their ramp(early on) to see if they're doing a tech build due to force field

 

[Pandaman]

it's a safe build so i can see why so many people do it

it's also frustrating too because if they aren't you can't get up their ramp(early on) to see if they're doing a tech build due to force field

overlord/scan/2gate allin baby

 

[PandaPandaPanda]

overlord/scan/2gate allin baby

the point i was trying to get at is force field is too good early on

i'm secretly hoping they nerf it somehow (ie raising the energy cost and or making it reserchable on templar archives or something)

 

[mescalineeyes]

too many pandas.

 

[(._.)]

templar archives for force field sounds like too much

 

[Aylinato]

remember, if you nerf FF you have to buff zealots and stalkers, who are both rather balanced at the moment

 

[DurielBlack]

Well, maybe switch it with halucination on the cyber core, this way sentries start with that ability and have to wait a bit to get FF.

That said, I seem to be finding that 2-gate robo is > 4-gate. When the first push from the 4-gate arrives you just FF your ramp and wait for 1-2 immortals, then kick them out from your front door and expand.

 

[ezrarh]

remember, if you nerf FF you have to buff zealots and stalkers, who are both rather balanced at the moment

Yea without forcefields gateway units are trash.

 

[Vaporak]

Well, maybe switch it with halucination on the cyber core, this way sentries start with that ability and have to wait a bit to get FF.

That said, I seem to be finding that 2-gate robo is > 4-gate. When the first push from the 4-gate arrives you just FF your ramp and wait for 1-2 immortals, then kick them out from your front door and expand.

Then you're just playing bad Protoss, forcefields can't keep a 4 gate out as you can warp in up the ramp with a proxy pylon.

 

[Pandaman]

Yea without forcefields gateway units are trash.

thisiswhatprotossactuallybelieve

nerf ff to 75 energy
buff sentry to start with 75 energy
nerf marines to 3 damage
buff marine cooldown to 0.526
new map pool

BALANCE.PNG

 

[Yoshichan]

Hmm, when terran double bunker the ramp against a 15 hatch zerg, what do they gain except a bit of a delay in the zerg play? Should the terran completely fill the bunkers up? What if the zerg goes banelings early and destroys both bunkers + all the marines?

How should the terran go from that point on (when the bunkers are gone)?

 

[ezrarh]

thisiswhatprotossactuallybelieve

nerf ff to 75 energy
buff sentry to start with 75 energy
nerf marines to 3 damage
buff marine cooldown to 0.526
new map pool

BALANCE.PNG

You say that like it's not true? Roach/speedling beats zealot/stalker at equal priced armies but yea, maybe the cost of ff might need to be re-evaluated. Or maps with less chokes and then ff won't be as big of an issue.

 

[Pandaman]

Hmm, when terran double bunker the ramp against a 15 hatch zerg, what do they gain except a bit of a delay in the zerg play? Should the terran completely fill the bunkers up? What if the zerg goes banelings early and destroys both bunkers + all the marines?

How should the terran go from that point on (when the bunkers are gone)?

whatever you want because you forced 1 base baneling and your ramp isnt even threatened by it.