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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT2| GL HF GG
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Corran Horn
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Check and wind are out now. I think leenock is still in, havnt watched Code A stuff latelyPandaman said:
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The Everyman
what is t suppose to do againt a quick early switch to mass zealots? like say i have a standard mm mix for dealing with the standard stalker, zealot, sentry composition. then say they warp in 10 zs without the stalkers. how do you fight that? retreat and bunker up until you get preignitor?
Where can I get some pointers on how to play this game? All I've done months ago is memorize a single build order for protoss but have now forgotten. Never got super into the game like I would have liked to because of the huge learning curve. I think I should start playing the game rather than just watching other people play in GSL
Well I presume you've been placed into bronze/silver. So set yourself a goal first to motivate you. Say advance into the next league. Should be easily attainable if you are willing to learn.Max said:
Then second know that to begin with build orders, scouting, timings, micro etc. are not stuff you need to be concerned with to begin with (at low level play). Focus on the basics.
Namely macro:
- Always build workers. #1 mistake of almost every low-level player. You would be surprised how much more stuff you have than your opponent if you just build workers constantly. I guarentee that at lower levels this will help most people win.
- Always build units from your structures, but do not queue too many units (none if possible). Again at lower levels its very common to see players just not to building anything, resulting in a much smaller army when you need it.
- Build more structures if you can't spend all your money. Spending money is the key concept of the game.
Following these three steps is the way to build a big army. You will be a) maximising income and b) maximising expenditure. Learn to do the above in a refined manner and its crazy how much bigger your army will be than your opponents. Your only concern will be not dying to the cheesy bs.
Only after that worry about strategies, timings, expansions and build orders. Only after that worry about learning the hotkeys, control groups and micro. The more you play the more you will naturally learn that stuff.
I know this is very obvious advice, but still its where most people go wrong from what I've seen.
And if you are still having trouble post here (w/replays preferably) or ask in the NeoGAF channel on SC2.
AdventureRacing
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Wow grats on getting into masters!
Got into diamond tonight. Not sure why i got promoted so fast my record is like 18-14. The vast majority of my matches are against terran players and every single one of them rushes.
My first game in diamond the terran player went for a marine rush with about 5-6 SCV's.
Pretty much if i survive past the 5-10 minute mark i win (against protoss and terran).
Still struggling with Z v Z. At the moment im just sticking with roaches but i have no idea what im doing.
Thanks. Now i will actually be able to play with GAF players and enter the next tournament.
Do you know how i can post replays in here if i wanted to look for advice or have an interesting game?
Got into diamond tonight. Not sure why i got promoted so fast my record is like 18-14. The vast majority of my matches are against terran players and every single one of them rushes.
My first game in diamond the terran player went for a marine rush with about 5-6 SCV's.
Pretty much if i survive past the 5-10 minute mark i win (against protoss and terran).
Still struggling with Z v Z. At the moment im just sticking with roaches but i have no idea what im doing.
Striek said:
Thanks. Now i will actually be able to play with GAF players and enter the next tournament.
Do you know how i can post replays in here if i wanted to look for advice or have an interesting game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRcUrpUDumQ&feature=player_embedded
Blizzard maps are nothing if not consistent
Blizzard maps are nothing if not consistent
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Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
lulzDeadman said:
Get on around 12pm PST (just under 2 hours) if you'd like to play the last version of Nuclear Arcade Alpha before Open Beta goes live today. (Scogoth will be there!)
I will make a more formal and informative post about Nukade in the near future, as I'm not completely ready to announce it officially yet.
Last stage of the TSL3 qualifiers is today with the playoff for the last spot in the tournament between Select and Strelok.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=198616
Ill edit in the stream link when it starts, but it should be in the spotlight anyway.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/TeamLiquidTV
Following the playoff Liquid Tyler will be drawing the brackets for the tournament itself.
This starts at 2pm EST (has already started)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=198616
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/TeamLiquidTV
Following the playoff Liquid Tyler will be drawing the brackets for the tournament itself.
This starts at 2pm EST (has already started)
TheThunder
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Siiiiigh....
Loner being in TSL but not MKP or TOP...
Loner being in TSL but not MKP or TOP...
Thanks i'll keep this in mind. The last game played I had way too many minerals and I seem to limit myself to how many buildings I make for some reason. Is there a certain time that you need to stop making workers? Always afraid of making too many and then not expanding at the right time.Striek said:
Going to make my goal to advance to silver TODAY.
close to the edge
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TheThunder
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TLO owned Nada at IEM Gamescom, but Nada was only playing SC2 for... a day.
Now I think Nada is gonna have it, especially if TLO doesn't smart up and pick a race and stop fucking around with random.
Now I think Nada is gonna have it, especially if TLO doesn't smart up and pick a race and stop fucking around with random.
TheThunder
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Random TLO gets Protoss TLO %33 of the time, and Protoss TLO is not good :/Won said:
TheThunder
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haha
Ret is gonna spank Naniwa shitty 1 base all-in one more time.
Ret is gonna spank Naniwa shitty 1 base all-in one more time.
mcrae said:
You are welcome
Nestea vs Goody
Naniwa vs Ret
Idra vs Cruncher (hahahaha)
Mondragon vs zeerax
This means idra, ret and nestea are in the same quarter of the bracket
The reason why idra vs cruncher is funny is because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAAQsgkl38s .
The day after cruncher qualified to tsl3 idra went on jp and friends and, in his words, played a replay of him "bashing noobies for fun on the american server". The noobie he bashed in that replay was cruncher.
Save the replay on SC2 then go to Documents/Starcraft 2/Username/Replays and upload it to sc2replayed.com or a similar site, then post it here.AdventureRacing said:
Congrats on diamond btw.
Hey I saw how you played against ezrahr, no sympathies here if you keep that upBigAT said:
Nah I won that match. PvP on scrapstation, so you have to 4gate because you simply can't hold your ramp with forcefields. So I did the korean4gate (definitely all-in), but he denied my pylons but lost to the very delayed push anyway. The reason I'm below him is I mined slightly less and had slightly less units. I think he might've gg'd too early personally.YakiSOBA said:Grats!
Just wondering, did you lose and then get promoted? I notice you're below him in the graphs, and the match only lasted about 7 minutes... was it some sort of all-in?
More details!
The game before that I got 8 pooled and ended up winning a 60 minute game and had less score too.
Yeah its very common to see players have 2k+ minerals stockpiled in lower leagues despite having almost no production and been on 1base.Max said:
The only times you need to stop building workers are if a) you are doing a very precise build that cuts workers for a reason (which you wont be yet) or b) you have 70+.
26 is ideal saturation on one base, but you want to build constantly so you can transfer some to your expansions to saturate them quicker.
Expansion timing is a very hard thing to judge without scouting information, so I'd recommend building your forces until about 8 minutes then attacking, cut production temporarily and expand. Gradually learn when its safe and when its not.
When you get better you can learn how to fast-expand safely, but at bronze level no ones going to be playing a proper macro game, so you don't have to worry about been behind economically with heavy 1-basing.
GL in getting to silver.
Procarbine
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Max:
Looks like the beginning frame of the animations for downloading and the league medal shine. I have no idea why the animations wouldn't finish.
Looks like the beginning frame of the animations for downloading and the league medal shine. I have no idea why the animations wouldn't finish.
I'm not 100% sure, but I encountered a SalsaShark a league match in 2v2. I had given up on the game, he was steam rolling me with Broodlords so I bugged out to go watch a movie. Somehow my friend pulled it out on his own. Awesome game SalsaShark if that was you.
Haunted
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Possibly close matches:Deadman said:
Nada vs TLO is sick.
Having Mondragon play Zeerax is messed up seeding.
Jinro vs Morrow should be good.
Nestea vs Goody will see several bunker rushes.
Before Assembly, I would've said that Naniwa is the perfect counter for ret, but ret crushed him so hard at Assembly, I think he got this.
Kas will beat Haypro.
The other matches seem clear from the outset. Of course there'll be some upsets, but who knows where. Amazingly stacked brackets.
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The Everyman
as far as battles go, i find terran armies to be the most micro intensive, almost every terran unit has a non-autocast skill that you need to be on top off.the ones that dont are hellions and medivacs and those are tough to micro right. and even before you get stim on the infantry you have to scoot and shoot, to deal with lings and lots.Striek said:
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