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Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Got to have that token open invite player that will lose first round. That way they can say anyone can get into the tournament!Slavik81 said:A 1000 player tournament decides a single spot...
Yup, their site and graphics are terrible. Pretty funny to see how much better the TSL stuff is looking.mescalineeyes said:
They've removed the player cap per team.Pandaman said:
Is nobody else concerned that NASL is going to do permanent damage to western e-sports?
Someone is donating 400 thousand dollars to run a Starcraft 2 league in the united states and it looks so shoddy an outsider might mistake it for a joke or con job. The initial announcement + show match were very poorly handled and everything since then has looked like a 15 year old did it in his spare time (or worse, I've known some very talented 15 year olds).
I hope to be proven wrong but so far I've cringed at every new piece of info that trickles out regarding this event, and if it doesn't succeed I fear for the future investors into western e-sports.
Someone is donating 400 thousand dollars to run a Starcraft 2 league in the united states and it looks so shoddy an outsider might mistake it for a joke or con job. The initial announcement + show match were very poorly handled and everything since then has looked like a 15 year old did it in his spare time (or worse, I've known some very talented 15 year olds).
I hope to be proven wrong but so far I've cringed at every new piece of info that trickles out regarding this event, and if it doesn't succeed I fear for the future investors into western e-sports.
mescalineeyes
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Paz said:
I asked incontrol about this on twitter a couple minutes ago. no answer so far.
Trickster
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Paz said:
Not really scared of it having a negative impact on esports in general, if it bombs. But I'm worried about their seemingly lacking ability to produce stuff of proper quality, the announcement trailer looked like it was made by someone that just read a few tutorials online. The website also doesn't really impress me, though they have said that's not the final website.
Regardless though, I'm still gonna get a premium ticket. Even if this doesn't turn out to be what a lot of people had hoped it'd be, it's still better than nothing. We're also never gonna see an esports scene like the one in Korea if someone doesn't step up and try to do something about it, so for that alone, I'm willing to support them and get 3 months of starcraft 2 matches for 20$. And hopefully enough people are willing to do the same, that way, maybe next season or next year they will be able to have better production values, and in turn attract more investors.
TheThunder
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White-ra can get in since he is backed by a reliable sponsor.Pandaman said:
Seems Artosis is going to be more active as a player and has applied for the NASL.
That's fantastic. Artosis is so passionate about the game.Ikuu said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0fV5KADifY
Paz said:
They said they're going to do a few more practice showmatches to get everything cleanly before the league officially starts so I'm not too worried about that. However, I do agree that they need to get a professional designer because the website and especially that bracket looks so amateurish.
Haunted
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Hours of boredom went into this skill.Deadman said:
edit: re NASL videos - LGShew and avilo referencing each other are the best. :lol
Posted once again because they're so much fun to watch
I love theatrics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=braPK31rO3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYMXQGvwl9I
1) Buy a 16 x 16 chessboardahoyhoy said:
2) Find a partner (perferablly (WTF?) someone you know who does not understand the elegance of a single-player game)
3) Play 2v2 chess
4) Have a shit ton of fun playing a more engaging mode that requires communication and not banging your head against a wall while simultaneously offering a multitude of new strategies (like four-bishop rush, dual King pincer)
ChronicleX
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If Day9 ends up doing one the TL community is going to have a mental breakdown.
Just a general question about base macro (I play toss usually).
How do you go about setting up that second base?
Do you preface it with a pylon or build the nexus and pylon together?
Do you treat it like you would your original base and expand it bit by bit, or do you drop all the new buildings (another 4 gateways, 1 robo 3 gate etc etc) all in one go?
When and where should I build a forge, assuming a standard 4gate opening?
How do you go about setting up that second base?
Do you preface it with a pylon or build the nexus and pylon together?
Do you treat it like you would your original base and expand it bit by bit, or do you drop all the new buildings (another 4 gateways, 1 robo 3 gate etc etc) all in one go?
When and where should I build a forge, assuming a standard 4gate opening?
DurielBlack
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Halycon said:
Nexus first, it takes the longest to build, followed by pylons. Extra gateways go there, but I keep more critical buildings like robo's inside my main base. Placement of the gateways is carefully considered depending on how the map is designed, I like to use them to create choke points or otherwise form a wall in front of my nexus to slow down any counter-attacks.
I'm a weaker player so I rely on 1-2 canons to ward off drops, air harrass, and zergling runby's, usually one behind the nexus in the probe line and another behind the gateways.
close to the edge
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1) I usually pick a probe and shift-queue building a Nexus and a pylon. If it's later in the game and I already have more than one expansion, I usually also queue the assimilators. When I transfer the probes to the third or fourth expansion, I build a few cannons.Halycon said:
2) If it's a fast expansion, I usually build the expansion and as soon as I have some extra money over (while continuing to build units, probes and pylons) I add Gateways and production facilities. In the late game, I tend to be a little worse with my macro, so when I'm at like 1k/1k, I usually just build it all at once.
3) I don't 4Gate a lot, but the usual "standard" 4Gate doesn't have much of a long-term plan. It's quite hard to follow it up with anything, except in PvP when you do a defensive 4Gate, which you can expand off (or just counterattack and win if you defend properly).
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Grubby now streams (offline atm)
http://www.justin.tv/followgrubby
Got to love how streaming is becoming so popular now.
http://www.justin.tv/followgrubby
Got to love how streaming is becoming so popular now.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Basically that. Maybe you can run customs under the editor as test document....shrug Im not sure.mcrae said:
Grubby loves his DTs, seems to use them in every single game and yea it's pretty awesome all of the streaming that is going on. Can pretty much watch a top player any time of the day.Corran Horn said:Grubby now streams (offline atm)
http://www.justin.tv/followgrubby
Got to love how streaming is becoming so popular now.
I need to give that a shot, I haven't played the standard Roach/Hydra/Corrupter against P in a week or so now. I've just been messing around being super aggressive/cheesing.ksan said:
Regarding the NASL: no one will care about graphic or website designs if they can pull off a great venue for the grand finals. Even if the production quality isn't up to ESPN standards, then as long as they can get a big, energetic crowd and premium players on the stage, it will be a success.
I keep thinking of the national tournament Gamestop put together at the console release of Street Fighter 4. It was ambitious, and looked like a train wreck waiting to happen. Rules changed from store to store, there was limited exposure, virtually no coverage even of the finals. But when I finally found shitty youtube vids of the finals taken from someone's phone in the crowd, I was blown away. They flew in some foreign stars, turned on a projector, and let them play. The excitement from the crowd and the action on screen pumped more hype into the community than all of the hours of arcade footage and japanese videos ever did.
Maybe these moments for SC2 have already happened for some people, with the MLGs and foreign tournaments out there. For me, MLG lacked some of that excitement. I hope it was just because they needed more benches. I'm ready for a huge, homegrown, SC2-dedicated event that has 2 months of drama and build-up behind it.
I keep thinking of the national tournament Gamestop put together at the console release of Street Fighter 4. It was ambitious, and looked like a train wreck waiting to happen. Rules changed from store to store, there was limited exposure, virtually no coverage even of the finals. But when I finally found shitty youtube vids of the finals taken from someone's phone in the crowd, I was blown away. They flew in some foreign stars, turned on a projector, and let them play. The excitement from the crowd and the action on screen pumped more hype into the community than all of the hours of arcade footage and japanese videos ever did.
Maybe these moments for SC2 have already happened for some people, with the MLGs and foreign tournaments out there. For me, MLG lacked some of that excitement. I hope it was just because they needed more benches. I'm ready for a huge, homegrown, SC2-dedicated event that has 2 months of drama and build-up behind it.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Watching Grubby atm makes me wish I had control that good.
Also makes me wonder why some WC3 players go Zerg. Protoss feels alot better for them.
Also makes me wonder why some WC3 players go Zerg. Protoss feels alot better for them.
SteveWinwood
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That last Grubby match was pretty epic. Very nice game.
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