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[scogoth]

Filed under "Minor 1.4 update coming soon."

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Massive units should destroy FFs anyways, the hell!?

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Also, disappointed by the lack of people in Mumble, I check every hour or so and idle on there for an hour waiting for someone to talk to/play with in my free time.

Try idling the neogaf chat channel. Usually don't start up mumble unless there are people on sc2.

 

[Won]

Hey were you playing 4v4s last night?

Uh, no.

 

[Spl1nter]

Try idling the neogaf chat channel. Usually don't start up mumble unless there are people on sc2.

its because he is on during mid day, when no one else is on.

 

[Striek]

They updated the ptr 1.3 notes with some changes.



Source http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1213111662

Thats a good change for EMP. Now ghosts wont make the sentries you've had all game completely useless (at least as easily).

I can't wait to see how fungal growth is used after the patch. Does storm-like damage, holds the enemy in place, has a bigger radius than storm, and is cast by a pretty fast unit that can burrow-move. Could be crazy strong.

 

[Spl1nter]

Thats a good change for EMP. Now ghosts wont make the sentries you've had all game completely useless (at least as easily).

I can't wait to see how fungal growth is used after the patch. Does storm-like damage, holds the enemy in place, has a bigger radius than storm, and is cast by a pretty fast unit that can burrow-move. Could be crazy strong.

ya no joke. Talk about over-buffing an ability.

 

[Corran Horn]

Artosis's head poping up makes me lulz

 

[TheThunder]

^
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Great maps though

The Blizzard maps are MLG modified (No ramp block, no close spawns metal...etc)

Can't wait, gonna be an amazing tournament

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as long as they don't allow Husky to control the camera

 

[Corran Horn]

If its anything like the previous TSLs they have one person doing obs while the 2 casters cast.

 

[mcrae]

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Great maps though

The Blizzard maps are MLG modified (No ramp block, no close spawns metal...etc)

Can't wait, gonna be an amazing tournament

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as long as they don't allow Husky to control the camera

what does no ramp block mean? and i assumed no close spawns metal meant always cross positions on metalopolis, but then realized that it wasnt in that map pool you posted, so what is that as well?

 

[IceMarker]

Holy hell Nuclear Arcade is on Page 5 already!

 

[Corran Horn]

Holy hell Nuclear Arcade is on Page 5 already!

See what happens when you force us to play it.

 

[Corran Horn]

what does no ramp block mean? and i assumed no close spawns metal meant always cross positions on metalopolis, but then realized that it wasnt in that map pool you posted, so what is that as well?

No Ramp block means it requires 3 structures to block a ramp instead of 2. So much harder to bunker/Pylon in a Zerg player.

No Close positions mean on Metal no close spots by ground. Its distance is shorter than Steppes of War and causes alot of cheese/crappy games. I think Shakuras you can only spawn at diagonal spots too.

 

[Pandaman]

No Ramp block means it requires 3 structures to block a ramp instead of 2. So much harder to bunker/Pylon in a Zerg player.

no, it means its impossible[impractical] to block a ramp.

all ramps have three 1x1 squares at the bottom that are unbuildable terrain, so you need like 5 builds with some of them being rax sized to get a true block kittycorner to the ramp.

 

[Corran Horn]

no, it means its impossible[impractical] to block a ramp.

all ramps have three 1x1 squares at the bottom that are unbuildable terrain, so you need like 5 builds with some of them being rax sized to get a true block kittycorner to the ramp.

4 pylons block, off by 1.

 

[TheThunder]

what does no ramp block mean? and i assumed no close spawns metal meant always cross positions on metalopolis, but then realized that it wasnt in that map pool you posted, so what is that as well?

metalopolis is on the map pool, what are you talking about ?

 

[-COOLIO-]

i havnt played since the patch, how are the speedier bcs working out?

 

[-COOLIO-]

TvT always turns into a cold-war standoff, with both sides massing tanks and valkyries/scans going around trying to catch the other person off position.

in my experience, that's often the mid game, but the early game or late game can consist of quite a lot of different things. id say that tvt isnt that fun to play because it's tooo easy to make a game changing blunder but it's fun to watch.

edit: also, early mass banshee has been really popular in ladder tvts recently.

 

[Pandaman]

the new infestors rape mineral lines so hard right now. its sos exy.

before you had to wait like 2-3 seconds for enough health to tick down for the second fungakl to kill, but now you can just #f#f and the time it takes to reselect and recast is enough.

also i wish the normal ladder was more like this:
http://i.imgur.com/4U6nZ.jpg

 

[mcrae]

metalopolis is on the map pool, what are you talking about ?

good call, im a fucking idiot

 

[mescalineeyes]

also i wish the normal ladder was more like this:
http://i.imgur.com/4U6nZ.jpg

fuck, I would love for Terrans to just give up after they botch a bunker rush

 

[Pandaman]

we all would mesc. ^^


also, from reddit:

:lol

 

[slidewinder]

Was there a clearly most reactive and macro-oriented race in Brood War?

 

[Haunted]

looks like a blast

 

[ChronicleX]

I can't wait to see how fungal growth is used after the patch. Does storm-like damage, holds the enemy in place, has a bigger radius than storm, and is cast by a pretty fast unit that can burrow-move. Could be crazy strong.

Not to mention that unlike storm Fungal doesn't damage your own units.

 

[Corran Horn]

OP!

 

[YakiSOBA]

Do you guys think 1.3 comes out next week?

 

[Deadman]

Id imagine not before the gsl code s final, they tend to try and avoid messing up tournaments.

Except for that time they made ultras amazing for 3 days so that fruitdealer could beat ogs top

 

[IceMarker]

looks like a blast

*rimshot*

Thanks! Page 4 this morning!

Do you guys think 1.3 comes out next week?

Either this Tuesday, next Tuesday, and definitely by the end of the month. I was reading over Join Game List and Editor improvements and bug fixes this morning and hyped myself even more.

 

[YakiSOBA]

But with 1.3, that doesn't 100% mean ladder reset right?

 

[zlatko]

But with 1.3, that doesn't 100% mean ladder reset right?

That'd be cool. I don't think Blizzard will ever do that. Have they stated they had that planned ?

 

[Aquavelvaman]

That'd be cool. I don't think Blizzard will ever do that. Have they stated they had that planned ?

They've said it will happen eventually but they will give plenty of fair warning ahead of time.

 

[zlatko]

They've said it will happen eventually but they will give plenty of fair warning ahead of time.

Really? That's kind of surprising. Wouldn't people moan over something like that in big droves ?

If they do a reset does that mean we would redo placement matches?

 

[Deadman]

You have to redo 1 placement game

 

[zlatko]

You have to redo 1 placement game

What would really reset then? Would it use your old rank, see if you win/lose your placement match, then place you either where you were on a win or below where you were if you lost ?

 

[ultron87]

And apparently you keep your MMR, so it doesn't really matter except that everyone will start at 0 points in whatever league/division they are in.

 

[IceMarker]

Nuclear Arcade has been updated! Patches polishing patches polishing patches!

- 1.5

-- Prepped game variants for forth coming Starcraft II Patch
-- Added text to the countdown in Classic Mode
-- Remade Player Leaderboard in an attempt to fix it
-- Remade many text chat strings
-- Increased detection range of Nuke Machines from 10 to 12
-- Increased progress bar threshold for Classic Mode to 20000
-- Increased timed life of Zerg Eggs by 10 seconds
-- Increased minimap ping time for powerups and eggs
-- Decreased cost of range upgrades by half
-- Formatted team scoreboard numbers
-- Fixed stopping Zerg spawning after 30 minutes in Score Attack

 

[Corran Horn]

Really? That's kind of surprising. Wouldn't people moan over something like that in big droves ?

If they do a reset does that mean we would redo placement matches?

Resetting Ladder is a common thing to do. Generally people call it Seasons.

 

[zlatko]

Resetting Ladder is a common thing to do. Generally people call it Seasons.

When was the last reset?

 

[Corran Horn]

When was the last reset?

For sc2? Never unless you want to count the beta which was often. SC1 had ladder resets on ICCUP like every...3 months or so? I never did ICCUP. Warcraft 3 was like...once a year I think.

 

[zlatko]

For sc2? Never unless you want to count the beta which was often. SC1 had ladder resets on ICCUP like every...3 months or so? I never did ICCUP. Warcraft 3 was like...once a year I think.

Ah alright. Thanks for the info.

I'm excited for the next patch even if it doesn't include this. There will be a really big shift in play styles. I hope some new awesome infestor builds pop up for me to mess around with my sly silver Zerg play.

 

[a176]

Was there a clearly most reactive and macro-oriented race in Brood War?

no, but you can say that bw is itself a much more macro orientated because you could not select multiple buildings to build units...had to go through them one by one.

there were no strict hard counters in the game either.

if you'd like, there's some pro-BW matches going on tonight at 11est you can watch to see how the matchups were. visit teamliquid.net

 

[Zen]

Awesome. So the PTR is being used for just testing out changes instead of previews of patches like I was afraid it would be. If i'm not mistaken the only thing they messed around with in the last PTR patch was the bunker timings. It is much better to make lots of changes all the time I feel, but not enough that it would remove all your constants.

No you're wrong. Considering last time and this time if everything goes the same, we're getting 90% of the initial changes (last time infestors fungal growth only hitting ground was removed but everything else went live on the game proper). Why in the world would you dislike the idea of them using the PTR as a Public Test Realm? This isn't Xbox Live Gold or something stupid like that, it's there specifically to test the upcoming changes.

It's Public Test Real
Not Preview Try Realm

 

[Corran Horn]

I hate mech terran.
Almost came back after my HTs failed but my decision making sucks and I didnt make immortals.

 

[keuja]

Artosis NASL application

I hope he can make it. vote for him!

MoMan application is the best so far I think.

 

[-COOLIO-]

they need to hurry up with this patch >: [

 

[Corran Horn]

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[Corran Horn]

they need to hurry up with this patch >: [

Probably not till gsl done so like a week.

 

[scogoth]

they need to hurry up with this patch >: [

I will use every opportunity to make ht with amulet before then.

 

[Detox]

I just played the demo of this and I'm a complete strategy noob the only strategy games I've played are Halo Wars and a bit of Medieval II total war (which I hated). Anyway I liked what I played it felt like the Halo of strategy games for me with the ease of use and the depth in the game.

I have two questions where is the cheapest place to get it in the EU? This game doesn't seem to drop. The cheapest I've found is this and it comes with Starcraft Battlechest for £34.44. I don't mind if its boxed or serial code as long as it's the cheapest.

Also is there any noob guides for this game? I wanted to do stuff like select all units or all of a specific unit but couldn't figure it out. And can you line up your units like in Total war or not?

Thanks

 

[mescalineeyes]

Also is there any noob guides for this game? I wanted to do stuff like select all units or all of a specific unit but couldn't figure it out. And can you line up your units like in Total war or not?

Thanks

to select a specific subset of units, like say, all marines, you can either control- or doubleclick them.
and no, there is no way to get units into a formation except for manual micromanagement.

sorry I can't help you out where to get it cheapest but good luck and we look forward to another fellow gaffer joining our ranks on eu