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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT2| GL HF GG
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I dunno, you get less competition if you don't have all the top Koreans invited, but I think they're trying to grow the sport more with Western audiences and they want to promote more Western players. Obviously iNControl was getting in, given his affiliation with everything, but I'm fine with them favoring an extra few NA and EU players. Maybe when the whole scene is a bit more firmly established in the West and you have audiences out here that know players better that they'll feel more comfortable inviting more Koreans.
With that said, I do hope the last spots go to Koreans, and preferably Code S and top Code A players.
With that said, I do hope the last spots go to Koreans, and preferably Code S and top Code A players.
TheThunder
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I wouldn't put it past them that they put couple of no name jobbers in there so he wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb.Ikuu said:
After seeing the TSL I changed my mind completely about Koreans. When I want to see top players play, I want them to do their %100 or as close to it as possible not barely doing even %50 of what they do in the GSL due to high latency, so they less koreans and more NA/EU players the better.
I knew Incontrol would self invite himself. MLG is gonna be fun.
Dde is supposedly pretty good, perhaps some of you should stop pretending you've some inside knowledge or indeed much knowledge at all as to who is actually good and who isn't. Every top list, especially when conducted someone who actually doesn't play against these players daily, is going to be wildly subjective after we move past top 20 or so. Incontrol or EG isn't involved in the inviting process by the way. In fact, EG isn't involved with the league at all.
TheThunder
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Incontrol plays ladder/tournaments, streams and does most of his starcraft work from Russ's office, you know the guy who runs this whole thing...syllogism said:
Don't really care who "officially" is doing the picking, you can't deny that his connections could made it easier for him than some of the other guys.
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Goddy is pretty good.twofold said:
He has more accomplishments than most on the list even though he didn't do anything significant in big LANs.
His style is probably a plus for him since he's the only one who does it in every match up.
Im surprised so few people know who dde is. Hes one of the top Canadian Terrans on North America. Extremely underrated, looking at the people invited they are trying to balance out the number of people playing each race equally. Makes for less mirror matches which is a good thing. I wouldn't expect any Koreans. The tournament requires the commitment to be able to fly out to LA for an extended amount to time to participate in the final portion of the season. No Korean in Code A or S is going to commit to that now because of GSL.
Corran Horn
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Man I have little desire to watch the nasl. So much hype all gone for me.
PhoenixDark
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Kinda surprised at the kinda weak lineup given InControl has influence over who's invited. Dude knows his shit, I can't imagine him being super happy over the lineup thus far
PhoenixDark said:
Tbh he doesn't come across as wanting too much mixing of Koreans in competitions and possibly even Europeans...I mean when ever he has a chance to take a shot at the Korean scene and players he does...
I remember when he tried to argue that the Korean way of doing SC is not as good and is detrimental to player progression...
so close to 50k viewers... if you aren't watching, WATCH NOW
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/TeamLiquidTV
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/TeamLiquidTV
TheThunder
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There are still a lot of good players there tbh, but yeah I'll probably catch what I can and wait for the 16 man finals.Corran Horn said:
Awesome Animals
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Watching that stream. It is impressive how entertaining SCII is to watch
Awesome Animals said:
Keep in mind that we have a separate thread for TSL discussion where the main talk is: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=424846
PhoenixDark
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Deadman said:
You expected there to be more than 10 Koreans in the North American Star League? I wouldn't be surprised if there's less than 10. A 30 NA/10 EU/10 SK mix would have been a good idea to me, but I wouldn't fault them if that's not the case.
PhoenixDark said:
It's just a name/a brand. After the "the greatest players the world has ever seen" line you can't blame anyone expecting more out of this thing.
They should have invited much less players anyway and fill the rest through qualification tournaments. The list of invited players feels really weird by now.
PhoenixDark
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I would have liked 50 players invited, then 10 extra spots available in an open tournament; so 60 players overall, 6 groups. Then the same tournament set up currently being used.
Trickster
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F#A#Oo said:
What? I've often heard him talk about how the reason koreans were so much better than foreigners in SC:BW was because they had things like teamhouses and had the opportunity to train as much as they did in an enviroment where they were always surrounded by SC:BW talk.
At most he's said that he think that koreans might be overdoing it a bit. Which I kinda think has some truth to it, considering they often train 12 hours a day and only get 1 day off per month.
PhoenixDark
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Was about to go to bed, then saw InControl was streaming. Damn I learn more about ZvP watching him than just about anything else (outside of Mr Bitter of course). Really wish Idra was more vocal during his streams 
TheThunder
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TheThunder
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pics or it didn't happen.
k, so I'm rather good with late-game builds, but now I need to practice some earlier-game(like, 3 gate or so) so, for the next week or so I will be practicing that, as well as early expanding
(2 warpgate w/forge is awesome for expanding in team games(gives detection and some defense while having some units as well)
(2 warpgate w/forge is awesome for expanding in team games(gives detection and some defense while having some units as well)
I don't think incontrol is very involved, if at all, in the inviting process. Having said that, you can justify every invite so far in one way or another and it would be difficult to come up with a better list that doesn't include more koreans. A lot of spectators simply aren't familiar enough with the scene to actually know who is good and who isn't, but that isn't stopping them from hating players based mostly on their own ignorance. Not to say these lists aren't to an extent subjective, they very much are, but most people simply don't know enough to even have an informed opinion.PhoenixDark said:
I'm terran and I've been having a lot of trouble on ladder with toss that goes fast DT's...
They always hide the building somewhere ridiculous, what are the signs I should be looking out for? Do I need to re-scout soon after my first scout gets in to double check for things?
When they hit with DT's, I've only got maybe 1 scan and then when it runs out they just come back... terrible
They always hide the building somewhere ridiculous, what are the signs I should be looking out for? Do I need to re-scout soon after my first scout gets in to double check for things?
When they hit with DT's, I've only got maybe 1 scan and then when it runs out they just come back... terrible
YakiSOBA said:I'm terran and I've been having a lot of trouble on ladder with toss that goes fast DT's...
They always hide the building somewhere ridiculous, what are the signs I should be looking out for? Do I need to re-scout soon after my first scout gets in to double check for things?
When they hit with DT's, I've only got maybe 1 scan and then when it runs out they just come back... terrible
Just have a unit poke it's head up the ramp. If they have a general lack of units that cost a ton of gas (aka sentries) some sort of DT rush is certainly a possibility.
what you should be looking at is how many zealot-sentries-stalker they have
It is a very gas intensive build, they can make it look like a normal 4gate, but the massing of zealots should be a hint they are going DTs(also try to see if they have a twilight council, they normally won't hide that, and if you see that before a robo bay it definitely means DTs)
Also, if you face someone named Aylinato, watch out for DTs, or carriers.
It is a very gas intensive build, they can make it look like a normal 4gate, but the massing of zealots should be a hint they are going DTs(also try to see if they have a twilight council, they normally won't hide that, and if you see that before a robo bay it definitely means DTs)
Also, if you face someone named Aylinato, watch out for DTs, or carriers.
it occurred to me yesterday in the tsl, the idea of the mass sentry is so that you can secure the wide natural against allins, ut on maps with safe rear expansions [with 1 less gyser in crevasses case], it seems to me toss could afford to cut sentries since it has a much smaller area to secure.Aylinato said:
>_>
but i still see 'lol i maek 8 sentry'.
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