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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT2| GL HF GG
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one good thing to be said about zerg is they sure do feel rewarding.
they also have the advantage of the techtree, because its somewhat limited it has been explorer much more deeply than the other races, so there's something cool you can do with every unit and upgrade zerg has.
they also have the advantage of the techtree, because its somewhat limited it has been explorer much more deeply than the other races, so there's something cool you can do with every unit and upgrade zerg has.
Pandaman said:
The best moment is right after an engagement, when I'm looking to replace my army. I know what my opponent is fielding and I can make exactly the units I need to kill them in MASS QUANTITIES.
Holding a 4-gate rush while queuing up lings to chase down the retreating units and roaches for the kill never gets old. Nor does spawning 20+ roaches and hydras
EDIT: See also, ling/bane flank attacks. So . . . delicious.
My story is, get promoted into diamond - lose 10 games in a row. : (Corran Horn said:
I can drone properly for most early game scenarios but once I hit midgame I just have no idea if I should make units and try to kill them or just drone and expand because I am shit scared of the late game.
Zerg does feel pretty good though because you feel so vulnerable so beating any timing push is quite a fuck yea moment. For any other race, FF the ramp or wall off it's just Tuesday.
some of the replays are already up just look at the bracketsFlea said:
http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-open.html#
http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-champ.html#
donno why some are up and some aren't
theshizzle
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Flea said:
You can find all the replays here:
http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-champ.html
and here:
http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-open.html
Just click on "match info" underneath the games that you want the replays for.
And don't forget to click on Winners/Losers on the left for even more replays or you might miss some. =)
Someone is also compiling all the available replays somewhere on reddit too if you wanna try and look for it there. =D
Boken said:
My goal at the moment in the midgame, as Zerg, is to get my third up with around 60 drones and then start to be aggressive. Contain your opponent and keep them on two bases, not allowing them to get a third. Slowly drone up to 72 and get a 4th, 5th etc. Julyzerg style aggression with Roach/Ling/Bling/Muta is so much fun in ZvT.
As long as you stop them from putting up a third, you should win.
I just played the worst game I've ever played. I was on 4 bases to 3 against a terran going mass Thor+Banshee.
I had Spire tech and the time and resources to go greater spire and broodlords and, for whatever reason, I just didn't. It was fucking stupid of me because I kept throwing my roach/ling/muta ball right into the teeth of his army and losing it. I did this 3-4 times and not once did I think "Brood Lords".
They would have killed this dude SO HARD as he had literally 3-5 marines in his army and only the thors to shoot up. Damn it, damn it, damn it.
EDIT: And that's assuming his Thors could have done anything with swarms of broodlings at their feet. Fuck.
DOUBLE EDIT: And I need to scout more. God, I'm terrible about that >.>
I had Spire tech and the time and resources to go greater spire and broodlords and, for whatever reason, I just didn't. It was fucking stupid of me because I kept throwing my roach/ling/muta ball right into the teeth of his army and losing it. I did this 3-4 times and not once did I think "Brood Lords".
They would have killed this dude SO HARD as he had literally 3-5 marines in his army and only the thors to shoot up. Damn it, damn it, damn it.
EDIT: And that's assuming his Thors could have done anything with swarms of broodlings at their feet. Fuck.
DOUBLE EDIT: And I need to scout more. God, I'm terrible about that >.>
mescalineeyes
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I swear people in the lower leagues are playing a totally different game from the one I am playing.
L M A O ! This game I just played made up for my entire night of getting pooped on:
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/159101-1v1-terran-zerg-taldarim-altar-le
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/159101-1v1-terran-zerg-taldarim-altar-le
I'm guessing he means that "timing attacks" at the pro level are called as such because they intentionally happen in a very specific time frame, as a result of thinking that your opponent will be vulnerable or that you will have some advantage (army size, upgrades, etc.) for a small window of time.Yoshichan said:
To use the same term on lower levels as though there is any real strategic rhyme or reason behind the timing of the attacks is silly after you see how poorly planned out and random they are.
Keikaku said:
Yeah I've had games where I stubbornly stayed on tech and even though I was really ahead, I lost. Quite the eye opener when you revisit the game just how dumb you were being. I kept suiciding my ultra/ling/infestor army into his thor/tank/raven army into the chokes on typhon peaks... and now I hate that map forever. (ZvP on slag is pretty balls though so now I have no idea which to veto).
Awesome Animals
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BigAT said:
My attacks are certainly random. lol
slidewinder
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Siege tanks are so absurdly overpowered at low skill levels. Well, Terran in general is, but siege tanks in particular are just a scrub's wet dream x 100.
AdventureRacing
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I actually got to face a terran today. We were close positions on delta quadrant. I did a fast expand, he did a proxy rax marine/bunker rush. I held it off without losing pretty much anything so at that point i knew i had won.
A little while later i sacced an overlord and saw 2 ports with tech labs building. I just chucked down a few spores and i already had extra queens. They did no damage.
After getting hit by tons of muta harass he came in for one last attack which i killed with minimal losses so he instantly quit without a GG.
I don't really have timing attacks like the pros yet (i.e. hit before stim) im still learning. I mostly just scout there base, get a feel of what they have and decide if i can attack.
I mostly just like to harass and counter but if i get the feeling they are being greedy or are slightly weak i just go all out to kil them.
Edit: i was also wondering what other peoples experiences are like with forge fast expands. So far i have never lost to one, in fact every single time its just an easy win.
Are people on the ladder just really bad at this build?
A little while later i sacced an overlord and saw 2 ports with tech labs building. I just chucked down a few spores and i already had extra queens. They did no damage.
After getting hit by tons of muta harass he came in for one last attack which i killed with minimal losses so he instantly quit without a GG.
BigAT said:
I don't really have timing attacks like the pros yet (i.e. hit before stim) im still learning. I mostly just scout there base, get a feel of what they have and decide if i can attack.
I mostly just like to harass and counter but if i get the feeling they are being greedy or are slightly weak i just go all out to kil them.
Edit: i was also wondering what other peoples experiences are like with forge fast expands. So far i have never lost to one, in fact every single time its just an easy win.
Are people on the ladder just really bad at this build?
Just watched the Huk vs idra games from day 3. I only ended up seeing the grand finals and maybe a few games before that so I missed out on idra 2-0ing Huk.
I LOVED how idra took the overlords to make quick temporary highway, then sent a queen full of energy to place creep tumors where the temporary highway was to make it permanent. Then using that to get hydras over to Huks base super fast along with the lings. I was hella impressed.
I also watched the game where idra lost to TLO right after that. Why did they only play 1 game? Or does MLG only have 1 game up to see? idra definitely quit out way too early I think in that game. There was 2 thors already out, but idra had managed to kill off a good chunk of workers, had 20 lings coming, was on 2 base, and had almost 600 minerals and gas ready to use. I think he said in an interview it was something about he had lost some workers thanks to the hellions earlier on, and that the Thors would be repaired forever if he tried to regroup... but with the new patch from a while ago letting SCVs build up the same ratio of hate as whatever they repair I definitely think he could have over run TLO later on.
Is there something else I missed to why he thought he was so far behind? I would've probably went ling roach, and put up some spines to just hold off whatever first push comes.
I LOVED how idra took the overlords to make quick temporary highway, then sent a queen full of energy to place creep tumors where the temporary highway was to make it permanent. Then using that to get hydras over to Huks base super fast along with the lings. I was hella impressed.
I also watched the game where idra lost to TLO right after that. Why did they only play 1 game? Or does MLG only have 1 game up to see? idra definitely quit out way too early I think in that game. There was 2 thors already out, but idra had managed to kill off a good chunk of workers, had 20 lings coming, was on 2 base, and had almost 600 minerals and gas ready to use. I think he said in an interview it was something about he had lost some workers thanks to the hellions earlier on, and that the Thors would be repaired forever if he tried to regroup... but with the new patch from a while ago letting SCVs build up the same ratio of hate as whatever they repair I definitely think he could have over run TLO later on.
Is there something else I missed to why he thought he was so far behind? I would've probably went ling roach, and put up some spines to just hold off whatever first push comes.
1.3 situation report says they might consider nerfing colossus too if the amulet nerf isn't sufficient
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2566610#blog
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2566610#blog
Corran Horn
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Yes because 1 base all-ins is wonderful game to play.Pandaman said:
Lord_Nergal
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http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/159215-1v1-terran-protoss-slag-pits
Anyone feel like critiquing my lowly bronze league play? Any tips would be really helpful.
Barring my terrible bumps and bad timing, I feel like I'm getting a little better each game.
Anyone feel like critiquing my lowly bronze league play? Any tips would be really helpful.
Barring my terrible bumps and bad timing, I feel like I'm getting a little better each game.
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