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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT2| GL HF GG
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mescalineeyes
Banned
Speed first into either expand or 1 base banelings.zlatko said:I forgot who Devil said he was in the chat, but did you d/c or what? I saw you say you were lagging and then 100% bail out.
I wasn't lagging at all. I have a 16MB/sec connection, sexy PC, and easily run the game on max settings. Are you from Europe or something? I'm in Nebraska, so not sure why you were lagging. Hopefully we can play another time.
On a different note FUCK do I hate losing, but FUCK do I love killing mother fuckers who cheese me... AKA 9/10 games. Had a Protoss try to cannon rush me, I scout it right away and slap him down. Then he tries to poke at my natural with a forward pylon, but being the boss nerd I am I was microing my lings around the map as I macro to catch that kinda shit. Next he decides to throw in some phoenix to snipe over lords. He tries two half assed pushes, and all this time I'm checking to see when he tries to expand to counter. Turns out this idiot NEVER was going to expand, so then on the next push I just make a ton of lings and hydras, toss in a few banes, and go roll him.
I think I had 1 Protoss who didn't want to 1 base all in me in some way, but the majority of my games were ZvZ's tonight and my rage levels were probably reaching Yoshi levels. Won a few lost a few, but I really need to figure out how to play that match up more. Most of these the other Zerg just expanded early with a fast expand, but I never could find the right timing on when to go push his natural or even run by to go for the main. I feel like the only build that I can rely on in ZvZ if it's a big map is just 7 roach rush or 14gas/14 pool.
Any Z's have a go to build that helps them win most of their ZvZs?
mescalineeyes
Banned
Will get to you this afternoon. On my phone ATM.zlatko said:
It's a bit rock paper scissors though. On bigger maps I like doing the dimaga style that twofold just posted but I feel banes are impossible to hold with it.
mescalineeyes
Banned
Given the type of player I am, this might be worth more trying.twofold said:
Oh and zlatko, generally speaking, mirroring your opponent is a pretty safe way to play the matchup.
mescalineeyes said:
Ok solid advice. I just need more time with the match up since ZvZ is actually rarely what I get on ladder, but tonight it was a gauntlet of it.
Also, there's one super noobsh thing I'm not aware of in the match up. Hydras vs Mutas... which is supposed to be the better unit against the other without taking upgrades or how many there are? I feel like the times I've got mutas that I roll hydras, but I was under the impression that hydras should destroy Mutas fairly quick.
At lower levels just go 1base Banelings and laugh as your opponent can't handle the micro you're forcing on them, it's like 14gas/14pool 100gas speed and then baneling nest with the next 50. Morph two at a time and rally them to their mineral line.
mescalineeyes
Banned
Hehhhehehhe best buildIkuu said:
Chinese Electric Batman
Banned
Was there ever any word by Blizzard on why Protoss are allowed to expand with utmost ease?
mescalineeyes
Banned
Chinese Electric Batman said:
well they have both sentries and warp tech, that's not game breaking enough.
Ecto311
Member
Can anyone tell me why my computer really sluggish when SC2 is running in the background?
System:
i5 2500k no oc
4gig of kingston hyperX at 1.5v 1600
Asus GTX460 1gb
Asus p8p67 (regular not pro)
Corsair Force F60 SSD
Samsung F3 (where the game is)
I know it's not getting hot - but when I tab out of the game it lags everything else on the computer. Ideas? I don't think I am maxing out the ram.
System:
i5 2500k no oc
4gig of kingston hyperX at 1.5v 1600
Asus GTX460 1gb
Asus p8p67 (regular not pro)
Corsair Force F60 SSD
Samsung F3 (where the game is)
I know it's not getting hot - but when I tab out of the game it lags everything else on the computer. Ideas? I don't think I am maxing out the ram.
Chinese Electric Batman
Banned
Sniper McBlaze
Member
Is it too late to jump in and try to play this relatively competitive?
TheThunder
Member
MC is playing on Jinro's pc and using his stream. Huk is watching jinro's stream and commentating on MC's play.
Chinese Electric Batman
Banned
Sniper McBlaze said:
If you pick Protoss you can top the ladders and tourney rankings with relative ease.
mescalineeyes
Banned
what is my sister doing on huk's stream. wtf.
The Lamonster
Member
Anybody else crashing a lot in this game since the latest patch? Whether I'm searching for a ranked match or playing Star Battle or configuring the options, it just freezes up and never recovers...disables my mouse and I can't ctrl-alt-del, requiring a force shutdown.The Lamonster said:
mescalineeyes
Banned
my sc2 literally NEVER crashed while I was playing a game. It exclusively crashes when I try to exit it.
Chinese Electric Batman
Banned
Haunted said:
Long instilled victim complex.
Never!Sniper McBlaze said:
The game does a really good job of pairing you with equally skilled opponents, regardless of skill level. Just be aware that you might get wrecked your first few games, it will take the system a bit to determine where you should be placed. Don't get discouraged though, just know that you'll eventually start getting opponents that are on even ground.
mescalineeyes
Banned
scogoth said:
around 50.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY4KvHWFbEM
So you can feedback ghosts by clicking on the minimap vaguely near the ghosts, which will get auto targetted. Its apparently how MC did all those feedbacks against the ghosts of thorzain last week.
So you can feedback ghosts by clicking on the minimap vaguely near the ghosts, which will get auto targetted. Its apparently how MC did all those feedbacks against the ghosts of thorzain last week.
Yes!
I go on vacation for a week and I come back to see that they're patching the game to delay warp gate technology research. It's been my biggest gripe for a while now. I think it's fair to speed up unit production out of gateways, that's a nice idea. My friend and I play 2v2s all the time and since he's Protoss he often caves under early pressure. This will encourage him to put out a few extra units early rather than pushing to warp gate so quickly.
I'm also pretty happy with the Ghost change. They were too gas expensive and it made having Viking/Ghost combos tough in the TvP matchup.
That seems a bit unfair.
I go on vacation for a week and I come back to see that they're patching the game to delay warp gate technology research. It's been my biggest gripe for a while now. I think it's fair to speed up unit production out of gateways, that's a nice idea. My friend and I play 2v2s all the time and since he's Protoss he often caves under early pressure. This will encourage him to put out a few extra units early rather than pushing to warp gate so quickly.
I'm also pretty happy with the Ghost change. They were too gas expensive and it made having Viking/Ghost combos tough in the TvP matchup.
Deadman said:
That seems a bit unfair.
ShallNoiseUpon
Member
Deadman said:
Everyone on TL that tried it says it is way harder than just doing it like a normal person unless is it a ball of casters vs templars.
slidewinder
Banned
Yeah, I just tried it on a unit tester map, but it was an endless stream of "must target blah"s with a very occasional hit. Unless there's more to the technique than just spamming on the blob on the minimap.
Sniper McBlaze
Member
Oh, well. I went ahead and bought it. Downloading it now. Any tips for me? Should I play the campaign first?
I got some experience with other RTS games, but I've never really played them seriously. I suck at macroing.
I got some experience with other RTS games, but I've never really played them seriously. I suck at macroing.
ShallNoiseUpon
Member
Sniper McBlaze said:
Are you NA?
Make sure to join the NeoGAF channel when you're on. We like helping. Except Splinter.
Sniper McBlaze said:
If you want a fun single player experience you should certainly play the campaign.
If you're in it just for the multiplayer do some skirmishes against easy AIs just to get used to the mechanics and what all the units for each race can do.
Then you can either try playing against some harder AIs or just hop into the multiplayer.
When you get to the multiplayer you should skip the practice league matches. They are played at a slower speed and have rocks that prevent early rushes. They don't really teach you how to be successful at the game. Playing against an AI is much better practice for a beginner.
After that just play your placement matches. You'll probably end up in Bronze, but there's no shame in that.
Sniper McBlaze
Member
Ok, not really feeling like doing the campaign so I'm going to try to play against the AI right away.
I'm playing on the european servers unfortunately. Maybe I'll meet some people from NeoGAF anyway.
I'm playing on the european servers unfortunately. Maybe I'll meet some people from NeoGAF anyway.
Sniper McBlaze said:Ok, not really feeling like doing the campaign so I'm going to try to play against the AI right away.
I'm playing on the european servers unfortunately. Maybe I'll meet some people from NeoGAF anyway.
You'll find plenty of NeoGAF guys on the European servers.
Chinese Electric Batman
Banned
Pandaman said:
So they went to the more difficult server to get better?
What a bunch of hard workers.
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