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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT2| GL HF GG
- Thread starter Corran Horn
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http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1136961#blog
NA Global 11/11
PvT: 59.8%
PvZ: 51.7%
TvZ: 50.3%
NA - Diamond 11/11
PvT: 55.3%
PvZ: 52.1%
TvZ: 48.4%
Korea Global 11/11
PvT: 57.0%
PvZ: 49.7%
TvZ: 54.2%
Korea Diamond 11/11
PvT: 58.0%
PvZ: 43.0%
TvZ: 46.1%
Europe Global 11/11
PvT: 51.0%
PvZ: 48.6%
TvZ: 51.5%
Europe Diamond 11/11
PvT: 48.3%
PvZ: 51.5%
TvZ: 51.4%
So in korea protoss and zerg are dominating terran, with protoss then dominating zerg. Yet in europe terran are the strongest :lol
Working on the balance team must be really annoying.
NA Global 11/11
PvT: 59.8%
PvZ: 51.7%
TvZ: 50.3%
NA - Diamond 11/11
PvT: 55.3%
PvZ: 52.1%
TvZ: 48.4%
Korea Global 11/11
PvT: 57.0%
PvZ: 49.7%
TvZ: 54.2%
Korea Diamond 11/11
PvT: 58.0%
PvZ: 43.0%
TvZ: 46.1%
Europe Global 11/11
PvT: 51.0%
PvZ: 48.6%
TvZ: 51.5%
Europe Diamond 11/11
PvT: 48.3%
PvZ: 51.5%
TvZ: 51.4%
So in korea protoss and zerg are dominating terran, with protoss then dominating zerg. Yet in europe terran are the strongest :lol
Working on the balance team must be really annoying.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
:lol Oh, you guys...
Ugh, don't remind me of that crap. I was never having fun as toss. Thank Kerrigan for Zerg, without the swarm, I wouldn't be playing SC2 anymore!fanboi said:
let 2 drones follow the probe and attack every cannon with 3 workers.close to the edge said:
Always try to keep your calm in such situations. Don't try to kill the pylon because once the cannons are there he can just plant 3-4 pylons and your attacks have been for nothing. 3 workers per cannon is enough to stop it from completing if spotted fast enough.
If you see a gateway you need 6 workers per gate to destroy it before completion.
TheRagnCajun
Member
Zzoram said:
The question is, who do you cater to?
mescalineeyes
Banned
TheRagnCajun said:
if the game is balanced, the game is balanced. no need to cater to anyone.
At the same time, you don't really want to have strategies that are way, way easier to pull off than they are to counter for anybody but the top diamond players. But the game doesn't really have those, I think. They're obviously balancing for top level 1v1, but I think it's obvious in the design of the game that they at least tried to avoid having a glaring situation where something that's really strong but being able to be pulled off by a lower level player while the counter is way harder to pull off for the same level player. The game doesn't really have any obvious things like that anymore, which I think is a good thing.mescalineeyes said:
mescalineeyes
Banned
Q8D3vil said:learned so much from knives TvZ
that son of a gun crushed my zergies
gg
Im only in silver so i often play bad people who dont expand ever (i actually mean ever). I usually get 2 or 3 bases in a reasonable time so i know with my huge economy advantage ive won, but it takes me ages to finish the game off, i can never seem to just go kill them. Anyone got any tips? Im zerg.
Deadman said:
Sac an overload, see what they have and respond accordingly. A lot of ground units are poor against turtling players. Personally I take advantage of the situation and practice my macro like pulling out brood lords as fast as possible and then using them. Most turtles tech straight for air so I would make tons of corrupters anyway. Again, it's about responding to what you've scouted.
Aquavelvaman
Banned
How is your money throughout the games? Most people in the lower rankings don't spend it fast enough, especially when they expand. Having 3000+minerals 1000gas doesn't help you when you don't spend it, hit those injects and you should be able to crush a one-base turtle.Deadman said:
alright, ive had some really good games today
had one 4v4 game where it was all diamond people(so much fun!)
unfortunately i lost, but the game was still determined to get me to 50/50 and i didnt get a favored game until 8 games(i think thats how many i lost)
if i woulda won the really fun one i coulda done better, i guess, i dunno
:edit: the one all diamond 4v4 was epic, had war of the worlds, full armies going at it, pushes here, drops there, blink stalker, tanks, thors, omg, everything but ravens tho lol, had some banshees, and some void rays, even DKs, it was pure epic
had one 4v4 game where it was all diamond people(so much fun!)
unfortunately i lost, but the game was still determined to get me to 50/50 and i didnt get a favored game until 8 games(i think thats how many i lost)
if i woulda won the really fun one i coulda done better, i guess, i dunno
:edit: the one all diamond 4v4 was epic, had war of the worlds, full armies going at it, pushes here, drops there, blink stalker, tanks, thors, omg, everything but ravens tho lol, had some banshees, and some void rays, even DKs, it was pure epic
From one silver to another, play steady and get further ahead. If you have a better economy then use it up and make an army that you know your one base opponent can't beat. Also remember that you really have to dedicate yourself to certain pushes. Don't walk your army up his ramp and get it killed, take it slow.Deadman said:
I'm on a six-game winning streak...the longest of my career! I even beat a Platinum player (I'm gold) who used the most terrifying unit in the game to me, Mutalisks, on SCRAP STATION, of all maps.
Blink Stalkers are nice and all, but I think the real key to dealing with Mutas is aggression. If you sense any number of mutas coming (or even a Spire), you need to move out and attack. If you're attacking their base, the Mutas are forced to engage, and you can beat them down. If you hang out and let 6+ Mutas scurry between your natural and main, you're fucked. Or at least I am, with my shitty micro.
Blink Stalkers are nice and all, but I think the real key to dealing with Mutas is aggression. If you sense any number of mutas coming (or even a Spire), you need to move out and attack. If you're attacking their base, the Mutas are forced to engage, and you can beat them down. If you hang out and let 6+ Mutas scurry between your natural and main, you're fucked. Or at least I am, with my shitty micro.
mescalineeyes
Banned
fanboi said:
I'll be there tonight as well, but first I WILL have my nap :>
Feep said:
that and archons. fierce.
mescalineeyes
Banned
Feep said:
well sure, but by applying some pressure, as you correctly said, you can definitely delay a critical mass of mutas fairly well, especially if you can damage his economy and he's forced to use larvae on drones instead of mutas.
I've been rage playing since being demoted. I can beat most platinums with my shitty emotion-fueled play. I forget pylons, I mess up build order, I make crappy micro and I still win against platinum people. Yet, here I am, demoted, not worthy of diamond.
Fuck, I'll take a break of this game.
Really now, I was losing a lot, but I was trying new stuff, I was refining my game, I'm at the point where I can one-gate expand against anything but all-in mass marine, where I can deal with mass banshee without a robo (HTs are the best unit in this game), all my matches are good, 2 gate + forge pressure on PvZ is good. 4 gate is the only way on PvP and I'm good at that.
if I'm playing nice, I can deal with diamond people. But I'm not, so I lost stupid games today since being demoted and I won stupid games, I'm playing stupid, I'm pissed.
I really need to take a break now.
Fuck, I'll take a break of this game.
Really now, I was losing a lot, but I was trying new stuff, I was refining my game, I'm at the point where I can one-gate expand against anything but all-in mass marine, where I can deal with mass banshee without a robo (HTs are the best unit in this game), all my matches are good, 2 gate + forge pressure on PvZ is good. 4 gate is the only way on PvP and I'm good at that.
if I'm playing nice, I can deal with diamond people. But I'm not, so I lost stupid games today since being demoted and I won stupid games, I'm playing stupid, I'm pissed.
I really need to take a break now.
mescalineeyes
Banned
Don't let your ranking affect you so much. Find some practice partners, play customs. Only ladder if you are well rested and up for it otherwise ^that happens.Sblargh said:
Don't blame the game.
mescalineeyes said:
Best advice ever.
Surely it's different for everyone, but I always get the feeling that people who aim for high rankings get burned out a lot faster than people who don't.
It's a game in the end, which is supposed to be fun, right ?
*runs away from the people who will reply with ''high ranking =/= fun for me''
mescalineeyes said:
I'm not that interested in ranking, I was fine being mid to low diamond. And I'm not saying the game sucks or anything like that. I'm pissed because I feel like I was punished for trying a new style.
Blind 4 gate in all matches = get into diamond.
Try to be a good player = back to platinum.
mescalineeyes
Banned
Nyx said:Surely it's different for everyone, but I always get the feeling that people who aim for high rankings get burned out a lot faster than people who don't.
It's a game in the end, which is supposed to be fun, right ?
*runs away from the people who will reply with ''high ranking =/= fun for me''
idk, I definitely play to be high rank someday (high gold now), but as long as I am not, I'll file it under "I'm not good enough yet, time to practice some more".
I don't mean to be a jerk, but I feel like Platinum is perfect for "trying new stuf", wheareas Diamond isn't forgiving enough for that.
don't get me wrong, I totally understand where you are coming from, but you also have to understand that you TRYING to be a good player is simply not good enough for Diamond. Use Platinum League to work out the strategies you're working on and once you get promoted your build orders/strats will be solid enough for you to hold on to your diamond rank.Sblargh said:
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Just the thought of me going to the SC2 tournament being held near where I live makes me shiver all over my body.
I keep imagining it's going to look exactly like GSL :lol
I keep imagining it's going to look exactly like GSL :lol
vicissitudes
Banned
Sblargh said:
That's what you get for not 4-gating Platinum scum
No seriously though, think of it this way: you're really still at a platinum level, and the only reason you were in Diamond was because you used a "cheap" strategy that most people can't deal with. Your general level of play isn't at diamond-level yet.
TheRagnCajun
Member
Hey GAF, does early banshee harrass work in high league play or am I just doing some bronze level shennanigans?
My build order is 2 rax, 1 factory, 1 starport. I can have 2 banshees with cloaking at the 7min mark, while still having a decent army of marines/marauders which can fend off an attack. I've only encountered maybe 2players who made a strong enough push to break into my base at that time.
My build order is 2 rax, 1 factory, 1 starport. I can have 2 banshees with cloaking at the 7min mark, while still having a decent army of marines/marauders which can fend off an attack. I've only encountered maybe 2players who made a strong enough push to break into my base at that time.
TheRagnCajun
Member
TheExodu5 said:
That can be hard to tell, for me at least, by the time I start investing in the build, shortly after my first rax. Only maybe 4 minutes into the game. At least in bronze league, 9 times out of 10 my opponent hasn't even expanded when I get over there with my banshee's at around 7:30-8 minutes in.
I scout, but that early in the game I'm not sure I'm seeing anything that screams 'macro/economy build' unless of course I see an expansion already.
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